Bundy Ranch; Feds set up for slaughter, WHY?

[tod evans]

Please take the time to watch this it makes sense...




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilDfAqDNUe4

[nobody's_hero]

He points out so many tactical blunders made by BLM agents that the idea of a 'set up' seems entirely plausible. BLM was positioned under an overpass with concrete on both sides. They had the low ground, they had no cover other than their vehicles. Meanwhile, militia's got marksmen on the overpass behind the protestors aiming through gaps in the concrete railing of the bridge. he makes a great point about the gear weighing these BLM guys down, where if they had to make a break for it across the soft sand, it would have been a slow-going process. I really hadn't considered any of this until I watched the video. I'm no expert on tactics but having him lay it out, well, I'm kind of like, 'how did I not see that?'

The feds are 'good' as long as they have a tank to hide in, but they're not used to dealing with real combat veterans on open ground. If any good comes of this, perhaps it will be that a few BLM agents will be resigning. Maybe they find themselves a scrap of land of their own to work and live out their lives in peace.

[ClydeCoulter]

Perhaps change the title to "BLM agents setup for slaughter?", or "Gov Tactics, slaughter setup at Bundy Ranch?" ?

[pcosmar]

That actually does make some sense. and fills in some gaps.

The BLM guys did not know anything about the Cattle return. Even after the Sheriff had said he brokered a deal.

And Highway Patrol confirmed that Cell Phone communications were down in that area.

Seems like someone wants to start a fight,, and it is not the Militia.

[tod evans]

Perhaps change the title to "BLM agents setup for slaughter?", or "Gov Tactics, slaughter setup at Bundy Ranch?" ?

Done.

[nobody's_hero]

That actually does make some sense. and fills in some gaps.

The BLM guys did not know anything about the Cattle return. Even after the Sheriff had said he brokered a deal.

And Highway Patrol confirmed that Cell Phone communications were down in that area.

Seems like someone wants to start a fight,, and it is not the Militia.

Sounds like the sheriff needs to be recalled. Do they have recall elections in Nevada?

[erowe1]

Meanwhile, militia's got marksmen on the overpass behind the protestors aiming through gaps in the concrete railing of the bridge.

Is this true?

[tod evans]

Is this true?

Please spend 30 minutes on the video, it's worth your time...

[nobody's_hero]

Is this true?

http://crooksandliars.com/files/mediaposters/2014/04/29167.jpg?ts=1397511952

The man in the video is right, the fight would have been over in 30 seconds or less.

I can't find the video at this time, but one video I watched showing the confrontation at the cattle fence, caught the BLM agent, on tape, specifically asking Ammon Bundy if he can get the 'guys up top' to stand down. They weren't just worried about the crowd, I believe they were honestly fearful of the militia in the background. The agent wanted to know that Ammon could control them.

This isn't the video I was talking about but here ya go:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5egqgTPSVw

[pcosmar]

Is this true?

Yes.

http://1.vsr.vz.tl/assets/images/cached/1H4uXM9-360.jpg

Highway Patrol transmission confirmed intel of 200 scoped rifles,, plus more long guns in the crowd. and many protesters were wearing sidearms.

BLM was in a Kill Zone. If shooting started they would have been cut down in seconds. literally seconds.

[erowe1]

The federal government is not going to take kindly to this.

[mosquitobite]

I don't normally watch videos where people just talk for 30 minutes, but this is worthy of a watch.

[tod evans]

The federal government is not going to take kindly to this.


Good!

They've been out of control for too long.

Their move.

[erowe1]

Good!

They've been out of control for too long.

Their move.

Their move, whatever it is, will be a check mate.

I predict they make Bundy buckle, and if anyone gets hurt in the process, it won't be any of them.

[donnay]

This is a definite "Must See" video. These psychopaths do know what they doing. The war on terror has always been designed to go after us, in the end. "Those crazy Conspiracy Theorist blah, blah, blah..." I am sad to say I see people in this very forum who agree with the psychopaths demonizing people who are willing to fight for liberty.

[pcosmar]

The federal government is not going to take kindly to this.

The BLM guys need to be made aware of this. I don't know how to make that happen.
But they are Mercs,, Hired guns, and they were set up to die.

They need to be made aware.

[tod evans]

Their move, whatever it is, will be a check mate.

I predict they make Bundy buckle, and if anyone gets hurt in the process, it won't be any of them.

What exactly do you envision the feds pulling on American soil that's capable of containing those who have chosen to support Mr.Bundy?

[pcosmar]

What exactly do you envision the feds pulling on American soil that's capable of containing those who have chosen to support Mr.Bundy?

It would take carpet bombing of a couple square miles around the Bundy ranch.

I don't expect the folks are all bunched up in one house.

[erowe1]

Also, as I think about it, if there had been a mass killing of BLM agents there, that too would have been a checkmate move for the federal government.

Talk about a crisis not to let go to waste. What would have happened would have turned into more successful propaganda for empowering the feds to limit the freedoms of all Americans than anything we'd ever seen. Those dead agents would become martyrs, and their killers would become the new face of domestic terrorism. They'd use the definitionless label "militia" to round up innocent people as successfully as they did with the definitionless label "Al Qaeda." 90% of America would be on the government's side. And even those who opposed the new policies would almost all be successfully convinced that the militia are the bad guys.

[erowe1]

What exactly do you envision the feds pulling on American soil that's capable of containing those who have chosen to support Mr.Bundy?

There are infinitely many possibilities. They could easily take out all of his cattle one-by-one. And who knows what they could do to him secretly. Does he have any skeletons in his closet?

[nobody's_hero]

It would take carpet bombing of a couple square miles around the Bundy ranch.

I don't expect the folks are all bunched up in one house.

one thing I keep hearing is that the militia has its own camp. I hope they don't all rest there at once. It'd be real easy to get drone'd.

After watching the video, I have an even deeper appreciation for the extreme amount of restraint the militia showed. It kept the PR from turning drastically back in favor of the feds. Imagine the discipline! These aren't just a bunch of yokels who show up to shoot beer cans on the weekends.

[AuH20]

They had round-the-clock surveillance & intel, yet they were stranded at the bottom of the gully in a disadvantageous position? And then we had this POS brokering deals that were not evidently agreed to by the BLM? The same man who is affiliated with both the SPLC and DHS?

http://www.ripoffreport.com/d/r1138508-cg8gfi-ywscyt0fg7/GillespieReid.jpg

[CPUd]

This can't be right. They were talking about some of those cops showing professionalism. I thought they all ran around shooting pets and beating women.

[nobody's_hero]

They had round-the-clock surveillance & intel, yet they were stranded at the bottom of the gully in a disadvantageous position? And then we had this POS brokering deals that were not evidently agreed to by the BLM? The same man who is affiliated with both the SPLC and DHS?

Absolutely, doesn't pass the smell test. That sheriff needs to be recalled, like, yesterday. I'd like to see the alleged "press release" on BLM ending the round up, that the sheriff said the BLM was gonna send out when he met with Cliven Saturday morning. Come to think of it, the sheriff sounded awfully nervous when he got up to the mic and made the announcement. It was the sort of nervousness a kid experiences when he's telling a lie. The crowd actually had to prompt the sheriff to speak up at one point because he was mumbling.

[Carlybee]

I don't think they will drone bomb them. They would be committing political suicide this close to an election. Even though there are a bunch of violent libtards who would love to see it..they will use heavy handed court machinations IMO. They can't afford the fall out. Not to say the Bundys don't need to stay vigilant because they could have a false flag event.

[HOLLYWOOD]

http://kwout.com/cutout/b/zf/sa/z8p_bor.jpg (http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf)

“The BLM’s current action builds on the Western Solar Energy Plan, a two-year planning effort conducted on behalf of the Secretary of the Interior and the Secretary of Energy to expand domestic energy production and spur development of solar energy on public lands in six western states,” the BLM announced in a (http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf)
March 14 press release (http://www.blm.gov/wo/st/en/info/newsroom/2014/March/BLM_Seeks_Public_Interest_for_Solar_Energy_Develop ment_in_the_Dry_Lake_Solar_Energy_Zone.html).

Bureau of Land Management • Technical Note 444 • Regional Mitigation Strategy for the Dry Lake Solar Energy Zone - TN_444.pdf (http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/wo/blm_library/tech_notes.Par.29872.File.dat/TN_444.pdf)

Last Month Democrat Senator Harry Reid with First Solar and of all Marxists... esp. Los Angeles politicians in the Dry Lake locale

http://onecitizenspeaking.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451d3b569e201a5119eec9d970c-pi

[phill4paul]

I remember all the nervous nelly handwringing over how an armed march on Washington would turn into a blood bath. Well, here you go. An armed confrontation in which the militia kept their collective shit together, didn't back down and didn't fire a shot and won the day.

[erowe1]

I remember all the nervous nelly handwringing over how an armed march on Washington would turn into a blood bath. Well, here you go. An armed confrontation in which the militia kept their collective shit together, didn't back down and didn't fire a shot and won the day.

Day ain't over yet.

[phill4paul]

Day ain't over yet.

That particular day is over. I'm not saying that the war is won. Hell, I'm quite sure it is merely heating up. But, at the end of that particular day level heads prevailed. A battle was won. I'll not take that from those that participated.

[donnay]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p0YemhFnw8#t=47
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p0YemhFnw8#t=47

[PaulConventionWV]

Also, as I think about it, if there had been a mass killing of BLM agents there, that too would have been a checkmate move for the federal government.

Talk about a crisis not to let go to waste. What would have happened would have turned into more successful propaganda for empowering the feds to limit the freedoms of all Americans than anything we'd ever seen. Those dead agents would become martyrs, and their killers would become the new face of domestic terrorism. They'd use the definitionless label "militia" to round up innocent people as successfully as they did with the definitionless label "Al Qaeda." 90% of America would be on the government's side. And even those who opposed the new policies would almost all be successfully convinced that the militia are the bad guys.

Yes, that is the whole point of the video.

[AuH20]

I don't think they will drone bomb them. They would be committing political suicide this close to an election. Even though there are a bunch of violent libtards who would love to see it..they will use heavy handed court machinations IMO. They can't afford the fall out. Not to say the Bundys don't need to stay vigilant because they could have a false flag event.

They need to find a foreign national or an embedded group of them to commit crimes as militia members. See Alfred P. Murrah building. That's what I expect to see. It's CIA 101. Then the gloves can come off and they don't have to worry about public relation snafus or criticisms about excessive force. However, in this digital age with compact recording devices, it's not as simple as it used to be.

[PaulConventionWV]

Day ain't over yet.

Yep, I've got a feeling this thing is far from over.

[AuH20]

I really wonder how the Russian intelligence services are digesting this event, especially after what went down in Ukraine.

[Lucille]

Roy Potter!

Frightening how evil the fedgov is. They think the BLM guys got wise? I hope so. They should know how they were set up to be sacrificed by the fedgov to advance its agenda.

I'm sure the militia will be on the look-out for agent provocateurs.

Sent it to Lew. I hope he puts it up.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Here yah go... this calls it all out, how the deals were done, how Harry Reid and Family profit, and then How the BLM, Harry Reid, and EVEN GOOGLE covered-up the illegal operations and the parts that violate the laws.

This says it all and how Harry Reid, his sons and relatives work the deals and use government force to steal, so as they may profit down the road. Just like Nancy Pelosi giving out those billion dollar loan deals and projects to relatives.

LINK/Website to the timeline/facts: http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ&feature=youtu.be

[Lucille]

That's a very good vid, Hollywood. It separates the fact from the fiction. Beck should watch it since he's saying Reid's solar cronyism has nothing to do with it (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/13/is-harry-reid-involved-seven-answers-to-seven-questions-youre-probably-asking-right-now-about-the-nevada-rancher-situation/). He's got the proof in that vid.

[HOLLYWOOD]

That's a very good vid, Hollywood. It separates the fact from the fiction. Beck should watch it since he's saying Reid's solar cronyism has nothing to do with it (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/04/13/is-harry-reid-involved-seven-answers-to-seven-questions-youre-probably-asking-right-now-about-the-nevada-rancher-situation/). He's got the proof in that vid.Sent it out on social media, sugest everyone else do the same. I send it to judge Nap too ;)

[Madison320]

Day ain't over yet.

I haven't looked at this story that closely but my first impression is that similar to yours. No way the feds are going to let this go that easily.

[gwax23]

The militia were the professional ones. They had the vantage points, the high ground, the good positioning. They werent the dumb asses who attempted to march in single file into a valley surrounded on all sides by armed men.....

[AuH20]

I haven't looked at this story that closely but my first impression is that similar to yours. No way the feds are going to let this go that easily.

The feds hammer crooked, extended nails for a living. That's all they know how to do.

[Philhelm]

Also, as I think about it, if there had been a mass killing of BLM agents there, that too would have been a checkmate move for the federal government.

Talk about a crisis not to let go to waste. What would have happened would have turned into more successful propaganda for empowering the feds to limit the freedoms of all Americans than anything we'd ever seen. Those dead agents would become martyrs, and their killers would become the new face of domestic terrorism. They'd use the definitionless label "militia" to round up innocent people as successfully as they did with the definitionless label "Al Qaeda." 90% of America would be on the government's side. And even those who opposed the new policies would almost all be successfully convinced that the militia are the bad guys.

Perhaps, but such an event would be an event horizon. I'd imagine that many people would decide to go all-in and we'd finally find out who's who.

[pcosmar]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9p0YemhFnw8#t=47

Not gonna happen,, Not gonna happen Not gonna happen.

Dude,, it happened.

[libertygrl]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWwtB1L8LzA&list=UUEo9S5mMQ7z4n7ZiuUoBFRw

[libertygrl]

CLIVEN BUNDY ON INFO WARS NOW:

http://www.infowars.com/

[donnay]

CLIVEN BUNDY ON INFO WARS NOW:

http://www.infowars.com/


Great interview.

It will go on Youtube later and I will post it.


ETA interview:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at881K-umOk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUhAw3A1HNk

[libertygrl]

Great interview.

It will go on Youtube later and I will post it.

Thanks!

[pcosmar]

one thing I keep hearing is that the militia has its own camp. I hope they don't all rest there at once. It'd be real easy to get drone'd.


I heard that from exactly one female MSM reporter.

She said it like she knew what the fuck she was talking about.

The Militia? There are several groups there,, from all over the country.

They may have a tent area near the Bundy house.. but I would bet they are spread out all around the area,, and with regular guard posts and patrols.

but that is just my guess.

[muh_roads]

Here yah go... this calls it all out, how the deals were done, how Harry Reid and Family profit, and then How the BLM, Harry Reid, and EVEN GOOGLE covered-up the illegal operations and the parts that violate the laws.

This says it all and how Harry Reid, his sons and relatives work the deals and use government force to steal, so as they may profit down the road. Just like Nancy Pelosi giving out those billion dollar loan deals and projects to relatives.

LINK/Website to the timeline/facts: http://scgnews.com/bundy-ranch-what-youre-not-being-told


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFiosLqjoQQ&feature=youtu.be

I was about to post this...

[tod evans]

I heard that from exactly one female MSM reporter.

She said it like she knew what the fuck she was talking about.

The Militia? There are several groups there,, from all over the country.

They may have a tent area near the Bundy house.. but I would bet they are spread out all around the area,, and with regular guard posts and patrols.

but that is just my guess.

With the mixed-matched bunch standing up I'd bet countermeasures have been instituted that even the feds haven't thought of...

There's everything from Nam-vets to scooter tramps just itching for the feds to get out of line..

I'm thinking that the standard storm-trooper techniques are going to prove ineffective against these guys....

[limequat]

Mcveigh made it politically untenable to be a militia member for several years.
I'm guessing two things are going on right now.
FBI is gathering intel on every group at the ranch and trying to infiltrate if they haven't already.
Once they get a guy to play ball, OKC part II. That is how Ruby Ridge started, after all. Weaver refused to play ball, so they killed his family.

[Deborah K]

one thing I keep hearing is that the militia has its own camp. I hope they don't all rest there at once. It'd be real easy to get drone'd.

After watching the video, I have an even deeper appreciation for the extreme amount of restraint the militia showed. It kept the PR from turning drastically back in favor of the feds. Imagine the discipline! These aren't just a bunch of yokels who show up to shoot beer cans on the weekends.

I agree. From all accounts, these groups are highly trained and very professional. It actually gives me hope. Stewart Rhodes, Richard Mack, and Chuck Baldwin, all of whom moved their families to the same general area of the country and who are pretty tight, (all spoke at P.A.U.L. Festival btw - shameless plug), all of them are well connected.

[Deborah K]

Day ain't over yet.

This was a victory. A small one, but still a victory.