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Madison320
04-12-2014, 08:45 AM
I just watched a clip of Obama stating that republicans are trying to deny minorites the right to vote by requiring a passport. Is this true? I've never heard of being required to use a passport, only that it's one of several acceptable forms of ID.

thoughtomator
04-12-2014, 09:09 AM
No, Obama is lying again.

Voluntarist
04-12-2014, 09:20 AM
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oyarde
04-12-2014, 12:41 PM
No . My state requires ID , if you do not have one , they will give you one free at the license branch.Drivers licenses are not free though, just the ID. There is much more voter fraud in the US than people would like to admit . I am pretty sure though , none at the precinct where I vote .

Madison320
04-12-2014, 02:50 PM
No, Obama is lying again.

That's a pretty bold, obvious lie, even for Obama. The media should be all over that.

mad cow
04-12-2014, 02:54 PM
Where did you see this?Gotta link?

enhanced_deficit
04-12-2014, 06:57 PM
Wonder if twitter would allow hashtag #disgracebag ...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?433586-Majority-of-Americans-now-believe-Obama-is-quot-dishonest-and-untrustworthy

erowe1
04-12-2014, 07:55 PM
What's the exact quote?

Suzanimal
04-12-2014, 08:09 PM
Where did you see this?Gotta link?

What an ass...



"Across the country, Republicans have led efforts to pass laws making it harder, not easier, for people to vote," he said, relating anecdotes of voters turned away because they didn't have the right identification or because they needed a passport or birth certificate to register.

"About 60 percent of Americans don't have a passport," he said. "Just because you can't have the money to travel abroad doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to vote here at home."

Obama's speech to a crowd of about 1,600 in a New York hotel ballroom came a day after he marked the 50th anniversary of the Civil Rights Act at the LBJ Library in Austin, Texas, where he praised President Lyndon Johnson's understanding of presidential power and its use to create new opportunities for millions of Americans.

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/news/politics/20140411_ap_786424f94c1a4b4ab2928758e9c31a5f.html# wS70J5Oq1gzPeIyq.99

Madison320
04-13-2014, 08:11 AM
Here's the actual speech.

http://news.yahoo.com/obama-vote-under-threat-us-202059095--politics.html

KCIndy
04-13-2014, 08:35 AM
No . My state requires ID , if you do not have one , they will give you one free at the license branch.Drivers licenses are not free though, just the ID. There is much more voter fraud in the US than people would like to admit . I am pretty sure though , none at the precinct where I vote .

And Indiana's voter ID law has withstood legal challenges right up to the Supreme Court.

But passports? I can't imagine any place making that a requirement. There's a lot more time, effort and cost involved in getting a passport, and that really *would* impose an undue burden.

oyarde
04-13-2014, 08:58 AM
And Indiana's voter ID law has withstood legal challenges right up to the Supreme Court.

But passports? I can't imagine any place making that a requirement. There's a lot more time, effort and cost involved in getting a passport, and that really *would* impose an undue burden.
Passports cost to much , for sure.

Warrior_of_Freedom
04-13-2014, 08:59 AM
passports are overdoing it. I think people should supply basic identification though. In most states you can commit voter fraud as easy as 1, 2, 3.

Madison320
04-13-2014, 09:32 AM
passports are overdoing it. I think people should supply basic identification though. In most states you can commit voter fraud as easy as 1, 2, 3.

Yes but that's the whole point. That's why Obama used that lie, because it IS hard to get a passport. Nobody REQUIRES a passport to vote. It's one option out of many. But adding more options only makes it easier to vote. The difference between OR and AND is huge. Obama makes it sound like you need a driver's licence AND a passport. Not OR a passport. The problem is the voting population and the media are too dumb to understand the difference between "AND" and "OR".

KCIndy
04-13-2014, 10:00 AM
The problem is the voting population and the media are too dumb to understand the difference between "AND" and "OR".

Maybe it's a blessing in disguise. If anyone is really that dumb, I don't want them to vote anyway! :rolleyes:

MelissaWV
04-13-2014, 10:08 AM
Passports cost to much , for sure.

Looking around, I found several states with driver's license costs in the $41-$45 range. A passport card is around $55 I think.

As others pointed out, though, many areas will help you obtain a free state-issued ID.

juleswin
04-13-2014, 10:42 AM
Looking around, I found several states with driver's license costs in the $41-$45 range. A passport card is around $55 I think.

As others pointed out, though, many areas will help you obtain a free state-issued ID.

Passport cost around $200 when you add in the cost of passport photograph you have to take by yourself.

MelissaWV
04-13-2014, 10:47 AM
Passport cost around $200 when you add in the cost of passport photograph you have to take by yourself.

Where are you going to have a $145 photograph taken?

Edit : Found some for $10 so... $20 more for a passport than a license. I don't find that to be a catastrophic cost, and I don't see how $65 = $200 but w/e :p

LibForestPaul
04-13-2014, 03:24 PM
ID is not required to prevent fraud.

oyarde
04-13-2014, 04:35 PM
Looking around, I found several states with driver's license costs in the $41-$45 range. A passport card is around $55 I think.

As others pointed out, though, many areas will help you obtain a free state-issued ID.

State ID's are free in my home state , drivers licenses , under $25 if I recall. I see no real reason a drivers license or passport should ever exceed $10 or $20 .

aGameOfThrones
04-13-2014, 04:38 PM
State ID's are free in my home state , drivers licenses , under $25 if I recall. I see no real reason a drivers license or passport should ever exceed $10 or $20 .

Those pensions aren't going to pay themselves.