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DamianTV
04-05-2014, 02:13 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oOZ5Twu91Gs

donnay
04-05-2014, 07:46 AM
And as usual MSM simply brushes the drug scenario under the rug and blames Ivan's shooting on argument he had before rampage.

Brian4Liberty
04-05-2014, 10:49 AM
What can you say? Ron is always right! ;)

Of course the establishment won't blame the endless wars for the casualties, or big pharma drugs for their known side effects.

The government solution will always include more government, bigger budgets, and less rights for all.

angelatc
04-05-2014, 12:25 PM
What can you say? Ron is always right! ;)

Of course the establishment won't blame the endless wars for the casualties, or big pharma drugs for their known side effects.


While the anti-establishment will never admit that their oft-touted side effects aren't really all that prevalent, nor even pertinent to this particular case.

angelatc
04-05-2014, 12:27 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=oOZ5Twu91Gs

Is there a transcript? I am not wasting 15 minutes listening to something I can read in under 2 minutes.

mit26chell
04-07-2014, 10:00 AM
Hmm, I thought his guy never saw combat and was not diagnosed with PTSD?

pcosmar
04-07-2014, 10:28 AM
Hmm, I thought his guy never saw combat and was not diagnosed with PTSD?

Ambien is a Hypnotic.

someone under the effects would be highly suggestible and easily manipulated.

pcosmar
04-07-2014, 10:33 AM
While the anti-establishment will never admit that their oft-touted side effects aren't really all that prevalent, nor even pertinent to this particular case.

http://www.sciencecodex.com/antianxiety_drugs_and_sleeping_pills_linked_to_ris k_of_death-130804
http://www.science20.com/news_articles/anxiety_drugs_sleeping_pills_linked_to_risk_of_dea th-133017


Professor Scott Weich, Professor of
Psychiatry at the University of Warwick, explained, "The key message here is that we really do have to use these drugs more carefully. This builds on a growing body of evidence suggesting that their side effects are significant and dangerous.

http://www.universityherald.com/articles/8506/20140331/anti-anxiety-drugs-sleeping-pills-linked-to-an-increased-risk-of-death.htm
http://www.healthline.com/health-news/mental-sleep-and-anxiety-pills-could-be-deadly-040114

ClydeCoulter
04-07-2014, 10:36 AM
Hmm, I thought his guy never saw combat and was not diagnosed with PTSD?

Are you talking about "this" guy, or the guy in the alert a couple of days before the event?

angelatc
04-07-2014, 10:47 AM
Non-sequitur logic:

A person who suffers from a mental disease takes medication for that disease, and commits a crime. Therefore, the drugs are at fault.

Uh, no. It is the disease that is responsible.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godandthemachine/2014/04/ft-hood-shooting-lets-not-blame-the-ssris-okay/


[SSRI use] is not, however, the ultimate or proximate cause of a violent outburst. The underlying illness is the cause. That people with certain mental illness may explode into violence (something that happens very rarely despite the media image) is not something we should attribute to the medication that might offer the only hope a person has for a normal life. It is something we should attribute to the illness.


So when Alex Jones writes this:

SSRI medication, which is known to cause violent outbursts, is routinely used to treat PTSD, which goes some way to explain why there are so many stories about both active duty and returning troops carrying out acts of inexplicable violence on a regular basis.
…be aware that he’s talking out his ass even more than usual, and that’s saying something.


I have no idea if there are any statistics about how many lives are saved or improved by SSRIs, but I’m going to make up a number and say “millions.” Scaring people about these drugs–and the people who take them–is incredibly irresponsible and dangerous.

pcosmar
04-07-2014, 11:07 AM
Are you talking about "this" guy, or the guy in the alert a couple of days before the event?

Patsy one or Patsy two.

This event was planed and promoted. It was going to happen.

The guy was taking Ambien (a hypnotic Drug) and under the care of Government Shrinks.

They have been manipulating people like this for years. And now they have a huge supply of folks that just need a little suggestion.

http://www.wanttoknow.info/bluebird10pg


A document entitled, "Hypnotic Experimentation and Research, 10 February 1954" [24] describes a simulation experiment of relevance to the creation of Manchurian Candidate assassins: "Miss [deleted] was then instructed (having previously expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken miss [deleted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep), and failing this, she would pick up a pistol nearby and fire it at Miss [deleted]. She was instructed that her rage would be so great that she would not hesitate to "kill" [deleted] for failing to awaken. Miss [deleted] carried out these suggestions to the letter including firing the (unloaded) gun at [deleted] and then proceeding to fall into a deep sleep. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened and expressed complete amnesia for the entire sequence. Miss [deleted] was again handed the gun, which she refused (in an awakened state) to pick up or accept form the operator. She expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened." P. 36, 37

Dr.3D
04-07-2014, 11:11 AM
I've seen it time and again, someone is looking for help for their depression. The next thing you know, they are prescribed drugs that make the depression worse and that person is sucked into spending even more money trying to get more help for their depression.

I look at the drugs as often a tool used to hook people into spending more money visiting their shrink who then prescribes even more of the drug. It's a downward spiral and of course the shrink is going to defend the drug, it's what keeps him in business.

dannno
04-07-2014, 02:45 PM
I've seen it time and again, someone is looking for help for their depression. The next thing you know, they are prescribed drugs that make the depression worse and that person is sucked into spending even more money trying to get more help for their depression.

I look at the drugs as often a tool used to hook people into spending more money visiting their shrink who then prescribes even more of the drug. It's a downward spiral and of course the shrink is going to defend the drug, it's what keeps him in business.


Yes exactly, once you are on SSRIs it is very difficult to get off of them without having major psychotic episodes. It is best to never start taking them.

Petar
04-07-2014, 03:10 PM
Non-sequitur logic:

A person who suffers from a mental disease takes medication for that disease, and commits a crime. Therefore, the drugs are at fault.

Uh, no. It is the disease that is responsible.

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/godandthemachine/2014/04/ft-hood-shooting-lets-not-blame-the-ssris-okay/

Way to assume that SSRIs actually help and don't make the initial problem worse...

Here is the deal Angela:

People generally have mental problems due to a weak upbringing and also childhood trauma.

A person of strong character will learn how to modify their behavior in such a way that will allow them to overcome their difficulties, while a person of weak character will decide to have faith in a pharmaceutical witch doctor; forsaking what it actually means to be a human being.

There is no way for your mind to properly heal itself if you are too busy spiking your brain with a bunch of chemicals that inhibit the natural mental process.

I realize that modern pharmacology is part of your religion for whatever reason, but we really would do well to have a lot less of these chemically lobotomized zombies wandering around society also wreaking havoc often times...