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aGameOfThrones
03-27-2014, 10:18 PM
We don't define domestic violence like we used to, Justice Antonin Scalia wrote in a Supreme Court opinion on Wednesday. In a concurring opinion on what turned out to be a unanimous decision, Scalia wrote separately to complain that his colleagues think domestic violence includes "any offensive touching, no matter how slight, as sufficient." The case, United States v. Castleman, was about whether an individual's state conviction for “misdemeanor domestic assault" met the federal prohibition on individuals with prior convictions on a “misdemeanor crime of domestic violence” from owning a gun.

"I agree with the Court that intentionally or knowingly causing bodily injury to a family member 'has, as an element, the use . . . of physical force,' and thus constitutes a 'misdemeanor crime of domestic violence,'" Scalia wrote, adding, "I write separately, however, because I reach that conclusion on narrower grounds." His argument has to do with previous court decision pertaining to the difference between physical force and violent force. As Irin Carmon noticed, his argument, essentially, is that the Castleman decision written by Justice Sonia Sotomayor is overly broad and relies on definitions of domestic violence from advocacy groups, specifically a amicus brief from the National Network to End Domestic Violence. Scalia cites several dictionary definitions to make his point, arguing that they define the term "domestic violence as "ordinary violence that occurs in a domestic context." He adds:



The offerings of the Department of Justice’s Office on Violence Against Women are equally capacious and (to put it mildly) unconventional. Its publications define “domestic violence” as “a pattern of abusive behavior . . . used by one partner to gain or maintain power and control over another,” including “[u]ndermining an individual’s sense of self-worth,” “name-calling,” and “damaging one’s relationship with his or her children.”

Then, Scalia attempts to explain why he believes the behavior above isn't domestic violence:


Of course these private organizations and the Department of Justice’s (nonprosecuting) Office are entitled to define “domestic violence” any way they want for their own purposes—purposes that can include (quite literally) giving all domestic behavior harmful to women a bad name. (What is more abhorrent than violence against women?) But when they (and the Court) impose their all embracing definition on the rest of us, they not only distort the law, they impoverish the language. When everything is domestic violence, nothing is. Congress will have to come up with a new word (I cannot imagine what it would be) to denote actual domestic violence.

http://news.yahoo.com/justice-scalia-very-scalia-ish-thoughts-domestic-violence-144300185.html;_ylt=A0LEVzVz8zRTPkAAk.FXNyoA;_ylu= X3oDMTB0MWoxNW52BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2JmMQR2dGlkA1NNRT M5OV8x

tod evans
03-28-2014, 03:20 AM
It's not just domestic violence groups who are writing their own "new and improved" definitions of words/actions used to denote crime..

Cops and DA's have been doing this for years, "TheNewz" does too, such things as labeling pranks as terrorism. (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?447935-Family-terrorized-by-harassing-messages-received-from%85their-cable-box)..

Misharacterization of actions for attention seems to be the status-quo........

Occam's Banana
03-28-2014, 04:15 PM
The case, United States v. Castleman, was about whether an individual's state conviction for “misdemeanor domestic assault" met the federal prohibition on individuals with prior convictions on a “misdemeanor crime of domestic violence” from owning a gun.

[...] Scalia cites several dictionary definitions to make his point, [...]

But of course he does!

I mean, why should anyone actually expect a U.S. Supreme Court "Justice" to actually cite the Constitution (a document in which the phrase "domestic violence" does not appear at all) to the effect that "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed?"

Much better to just go to the dictionary and play positivist word games about what "domestic violence" might or might not mean ...

:rolleyes::mad:

DamianTV
03-28-2014, 04:39 PM
Domestic Violence today is more broadly defined in order to keep their Daily Beating Quotas at skyhigh rates. Govt causes more problems than it solves by destroying families and turning normal activities into illegal ones.