IL: State Rep resigns amid kiddie porn allegation

[angelatc]

Since it seems to be "Democrats are evil" night here on RPF. In Elgin IL, the State Rep resigned after the FBI served search warrants for petty much all his electronic devices:

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2014-03-24/news/ct-farnham-resignation-met-20140325_1_south-elgin-elgin-dairy-explicit-conduct


Reports that federal agents were looking for evidence of child pornography when they seized computers from the Elgin district office of former state Rep. Keith Farnham shocked local officials who said the lawmaker was well-liked and active in the community.
Federal agents were searching for documents "pertaining to the possession, receipt or distribution of child pornography" as well as computer files, copies and negatives of child pornography or any documents that depicted minors "engaged in sexually explicit conduct," according to a search warrant released Friday.

[oyarde]

Well , at a National level , I cannot name 2 who are not evil .....

[Origanalist]

Well , at a National level , I cannot name 2 who are not evil .....

You beat me to it. As much dissatisfaction as I have with republicans, democrats represent everything I hate about this world.

[oyarde]

You beat me to it. As much dissatisfaction as I have with republicans, democrats represent everything I hate about this world.

There are very few good " Pubs" , there are really no more than one good "dems" , hell , the establishment pubs are the war mongering socialists , and about all of the dems are the war mongering communists , who will cut nothing from any budget , who will try and grow any govt , larger , steal more , and leave you with a bill of rights that is 1 ) killing babies ( future taxpayers) 2) smoking weed , 3) a TV dinner at the end of the say. These are the worst trash I have seen , and I have been everywhere and seen everything . People point out there is little difference . .... That is probably true for the establishment ... foreign policy , corporaratism . At a State legislature level , though , there should be a huge difference. One owned by unions . one not etc

[oyarde]

The Dems in the Senate are dumber than the spawn of satan .

[Origanalist]

The Dems in the Senate are dumber than the spawn of satan .

I have two fine examples in my State. Dumb and dumber.

[GunnyFreedom]

You beat me to it. As much dissatisfaction as I have with republicans, democrats represent everything I hate about this world.

It's really insane in NC. You have a pretty large number of registered Democrats who are (seriously) more conservative than Republicans, but they keep voting in the whack-job liberals because 1) they cannot forgive Republicans for the Civil War, and 2) Up until 2011 Dems have dominated the State for 140 years so you 'had' to be a Dem to have influence.

So you end up with life-long registered Democrats conservative enough to make Ted Cruz look like a progressive liberal, but will vote for the Dem in a General because they are a Dem.

Mind you, a lot of these will whisper in your ear how they only ever vote Republican, so then you ask why in heaven's name they are Democrats. "Because paw would roll over in his grave if I went Republican."

It's a weird and pretty unique political situation in NC, to be honest. 1st Congressional District is chock full of radical conservadems that frankly make the whole Republican Party look like Woodrow Wilson, and then they turn around and keep electing G K Butterfield.......

tl;dr just be glad that you don't have to deal with democrats who are more conservative than republicans but who keep electing liberals. What in the frell are you supposed to do with THAT?

[Origanalist]

It's really insane in NC. You have a pretty large number of registered Democrats who are (seriously) more conservative than Republicans, but they keep voting in the whack-job liberals because 1) they cannot forgive Republicans for the Civil War, and 2) Up until 2011 Dems have dominated the State for 140 years so you 'had' to be a Dem to have influence.

So you end up with life-long registered Democrats conservative enough to make Ted Cruz look like a progressive liberal, but will vote for the Dem in a General because they are a Dem.

Mind you, a lot of these will whisper in your ear how they only ever vote Republican, so then you ask why in heaven's name they are Democrats. "Because paw would roll over in his grave if I went Republican."

It's a weird and pretty unique political situation in NC, to be honest. 1st Congressional District is chock full of radical conservadems that frankly make the whole Republican Party look like Woodrow Wilson, and then they turn around and keep electing G K Butterfield.......

tl;dr just be glad that you don't have to deal with democrats who are more conservative than republicans bot who keep electing liberals. What in the frell are you supposed to do with THAT?

Yes, I'm so glad we have REAL democrats here in Washington State..............

[phill4paul]

It's really insane in NC. You have a pretty large number of registered Democrats who are (seriously) more conservative than Republicans, but they keep voting in the whack-job liberals because 1) they cannot forgive Republicans for the Civil War, and 2) Up until 2011 Dems have dominated the State for 140 years so you 'had' to be a Dem to have influence.

So you end up with life-long registered Democrats conservative enough to make Ted Cruz look like a progressive liberal, but will vote for the Dem in a General because they are a Dem.

Mind you, a lot of these will whisper in your ear how they only ever vote Republican, so then you ask why in heaven's name they are Democrats. "Because paw would roll over in his grave if I went Republican."

It's a weird and pretty unique political situation in NC, to be honest. 1st Congressional District is chock full of radical conservadems that frankly make the whole Republican Party look like Woodrow Wilson, and then they turn around and keep electing G K Butterfield.......

tl;dr just be glad that you don't have to deal with democrats who are more conservative than republicans but who keep electing liberals. What in the frell are you supposed to do with THAT?

Change your name to that of a well known Dem and don't put down party affiliation on your fliers and website? :p

[tod evans]

Is this guy tied to the Ill. congressman in this thread somehow?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444391-Ex-Chicago-politician-arrested-on-kiddy-porn-charges-AGAIN!&highlight=Ill.+child+porn

[oyarde]

I have two fine examples in my State. Dumb and dumber.

Exactly , how does someone like that get elected ? It makes no sense.

[pcosmar]

It's really insane in NC. You have a pretty large number of registered Democrats who are (seriously) more conservative than Republicans, but they keep voting in the whack-job liberals because 1) they cannot forgive Republicans for the Civil War, and 2) Up until 2011 Dems have dominated the State for 140 years so you 'had' to be a Dem to have influence.

So you end up with life-long registered Democrats conservative enough to make Ted Cruz look like a progressive liberal, but will vote for the Dem in a General because they are a Dem.

Mind you, a lot of these will whisper in your ear how they only ever vote Republican, so then you ask why in heaven's name they are Democrats. "Because paw would roll over in his grave if I went Republican."

It's a weird and pretty unique political situation in NC, to be honest. 1st Congressional District is chock full of radical conservadems that frankly make the whole Republican Party look like Woodrow Wilson, and then they turn around and keep electing G K Butterfield.......

tl;dr just be glad that you don't have to deal with democrats who are more conservative than republicans but who keep electing liberals. What in the frell are you supposed to do with THAT?

Sounds like you need a BUNCH of libertarian democrats,, for the very few libertarian Republicans to ally with.

[ZENemy]

"Yes your Honor, I killed 87 people last night, I will just resign from my I.T job and we will be good right?"

YEA FUCKING RIGHT

[angelatc]

Is this guy tied to the Ill. congressman in this thread somehow?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444391-Ex-Chicago-politician-arrested-on-kiddy-porn-charges-AGAIN!&highlight=Ill.+child+porn

Probably. Would not surprise me one bit to find out the annual convention had an after hours private for festival for invited guests. If these guys were Republicans, this would have been posted all over the internet.

[tod evans]

Here's a picture of that "fine fellow".....(on the left)

http://www.illinoisobserver.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/KFarnham-660x330.jpg

[angelatc]

"Yes your Honor, I killed 87 people last night, I will just resign from my I.T job and we will be good right?"

YEA FUCKING RIGHT

Actually, this is why we should always have a liberty candidate in the wings. This guy just won the Democrat primary, running unopposed. Not sure how they are going to fill his position now, but running against the Party of Child Predators shouldnt be too hard.

[tod evans]

Actually, this is why we should always have a liberty candidate in the wings. This guy just won the Democrat primary, running unopposed. Not sure how they are going to fill his position now, but running against the Party of Child Predators shouldnt be too hard.

The very last thing Cook county wants is liberty.....

[Wooden Indian]

I question most of these kiddie porn cases. The allegations alone ruin lives. No better weapon to get people in line.

Didn't play ball? Welcome to your new life as a child predator. Good day, sir.

[gwax23]

It's really insane in NC. You have a pretty large number of registered Democrats who are (seriously) more conservative than Republicans, but they keep voting in the whack-job liberals because 1) they cannot forgive Republicans for the Civil War, and 2) Up until 2011 Dems have dominated the State for 140 years so you 'had' to be a Dem to have influence.

So you end up with life-long registered Democrats conservative enough to make Ted Cruz look like a progressive liberal, but will vote for the Dem in a General because they are a Dem.

Mind you, a lot of these will whisper in your ear how they only ever vote Republican, so then you ask why in heaven's name they are Democrats. "Because paw would roll over in his grave if I went Republican."

It's a weird and pretty unique political situation in NC, to be honest. 1st Congressional District is chock full of radical conservadems that frankly make the whole Republican Party look like Woodrow Wilson, and then they turn around and keep electing G K Butterfield.......

tl;dr just be glad that you don't have to deal with democrats who are more conservative than republicans but who keep electing liberals. What in the frell are you supposed to do with THAT?

The ridiculous. I was always wondering about the high democratic membership in these southern states.

[William Tell]

It's really insane in NC. You have a pretty large number of registered Democrats who are (seriously) more conservative than Republicans, but they keep voting in the whack-job liberals because 1) they cannot forgive Republicans for the Civil War, and 2) Up until 2011 Dems have dominated the State for 140 years so you 'had' to be a Dem to have influence.

So you end up with life-long registered Democrats conservative enough to make Ted Cruz look like a progressive liberal, but will vote for the Dem in a General because they are a Dem.

Mind you, a lot of these will whisper in your ear how they only ever vote Republican, so then you ask why in heaven's name they are Democrats. "Because paw would roll over in his grave if I went Republican."

It's a weird and pretty unique political situation in NC, to be honest. 1st Congressional District is chock full of radical conservadems that frankly make the whole Republican Party look like Woodrow Wilson, and then they turn around and keep electing G K Butterfield.......

tl;dr just be glad that you don't have to deal with democrats who are more conservative than republicans but who keep electing liberals. What in the frell are you supposed to do with THAT?

Larry McDonald Democrats eh? Good to know they are still out there. The party's have changed over the years.

[angelatc]

The very last thing Cook county wants is liberty.....

Part of Elgin is in Kane County.

That area could be saved, I think. It's rought right now, but the homes are decent on good size lots. It would not be too hard to gentrify it.

[dannno]

I question most of these kiddie porn cases. The allegations alone ruin lives. No better weapon to get people in line.

Didn't play ball? Welcome to your new life as a child predator. Good day, sir.

I agree, this guy sounds like he's been on his deathbed the last 2 years..


Farnham told the Tribune on Monday that he is receiving treatment for bladder cancer but that his main struggle is with pulmonary fibrosis, a condition that causes lung tissue to scar.

Elgin Mayor David Kaptain, who referred to Farnham as a close friend, said he knew of the former representative's fight with cancer over the past few years — a battle the two had in common.


He did back some shitty legislation..



He also worked with Elgin leadership to introduce legislation that enabled law enforcement agencies to recover costs incurred during drug investigations from convicted drug dealers and to allow municipalities to better compete for grant money to combat gang violence. The two bills were signed into law in 2011.

But he also voted for MMJ.

[Anti Federalist]

I question most of these kiddie porn cases. The allegations alone ruin lives. No better weapon to get people in line.

Didn't play ball? Welcome to your new life as a child predator. Good day, sir.

This.

You can protest your innocence until the cows come home, fuck, you can be truly innocent, in today's AmeriKa that doesn't mean shit.

[angelatc]

This.

You can protest your innocence until the cows come home, fuck, you can be truly innocent, in today's AmeriKa that doesn't mean shit.

He has neither protested nor asserted his innocence. And apparently even though he has not denied it and stepped down immediately doesn't do anything to make you consider that perhaps this isn't the best time to step up and start supporting suspected kiddie diddlers.

[dannno]

He has neither protested nor asserted his innocence.

Think about it. The more you protest your innocence, the more details they release (true or not) and it just makes you look worse. They would have communicated this to him already, of course, and told him that there is no point in fighting it. Once they decide to pull a campaign like this against you, you are fucked.




And apparently even though he has not denied it and stepped down immediately doesn't do anything to make you consider that perhaps this isn't the best time to step up and start supporting suspected kiddie diddlers.

No, this is precisely the best time to support them because if more people started becoming suspect when they come out and try and pull this crap then it wouldn't be as effective anymore.

As a side note, even if he did have kiddie porn there is no evidence that he has ever nor will ever abuse a child as you insinuated.

[Anti Federalist]

He has neither protested nor asserted his innocence. And apparently even though he has not denied it and stepped down immediately doesn't do anything to make you consider that perhaps this isn't the best time to step up and start supporting suspected kiddie diddlers.

I'm not speaking of this case in particular, I am speaking of it in general terms.

Nothing is more easy to frame, and nothing will destroy a person's credibility and standing faster than being accused, by a thoroughly corrupt system mind you, of being a "kiddie diddler".

WoodenIndian stated that he questions most of these kiddie porn cases.

I am in full agreement and also do the same.

Now, maybe this fellow is a foul hypocrite and is guilty as charged. That I do not know.

All I know is that his name is now smeared, forever, regardless of innocence or guilt.

And that's a mighty dangerous precedent to set.

[angelatc]

Think about it. The more you protest your innocence, the more details they release (true or not) and it just makes you look worse. They would have communicated this to him already, of course, and told him that there is no point in fighting it. Once they decide to pull a campaign like this against you, you are fucked.

Think about this, Mr. "I can take any scenario and turn it into a bizarro conspiracy theory with absolutely no evidence to support it:" Most people do NOT instinctively react like he did. It's that simple. Even guilty people feign innocence, and vow to fight the charges, and blah blah blah.




No, this is precisely the best time to support them because if more people started becoming suspect when they come out and try and pull this crap then it wouldn't be as effective anymore.

I disagree. If the man was insisting he was innocent, then I'd be perfectly willing to trash his good name just because he's a Democrat. But i he was a Republican, I would not offering up a defense that he himself had not even asserted. I'm a big believer in waiting for the jury to decide, but I formed my opinion based on his reaction, not the warrant.

You've decided to fabricate some wacky story about Powerful Men known as "Them" who have, for unknown reasons, decided to swoop in and ruin the life of some low level politikrat.

Which is more likely to be correct, do you think?


As a side note, even if he did have kiddie porn there is no evidence that he has ever nor will ever abuse a child as you insinuated.

Really? You're going to start that conversation? How much extensive darknet research have you done on the topic? (I'm allowed to make up stories too, right?)

[angelatc]

I'm not speaking of this case in particular, I am speaking of it in general terms.

Nothing is more easy to frame, and nothing will destroy a person's credibility and standing faster than being accused, by a thoroughly corrupt system mind you, of being a "kiddie diddler".

WoodenIndian stated that he questions most of these kiddie porn cases. I am in full agreement and also do the same. Now, maybe this fellow is a foul hypocrite and is guilty as charged. That I do not know. All I know is that his name is now smeared, forever, regardless of innocence or guilt.

And that's a mighty dangerous precedent to set.

This is no precedent. It is nothing new to our generation. This is human nature. I'll be totally honest - when I see a statement like WoodenIndian made, I wonder about that person, too.

So what's the alternative? No press coverage of arrests, especially when they're public officials? Secret tribunals where guilt is decided by anonymous hooded "peers'?

[Mr.NoSmile]

I'm mostly seeing this on local affiliates out of Illinois. As much as I hate pulling this card, had this man borne an (R) next to his name, it'd be a much bigger scandal.

[Wooden Indian]

I'm not speaking of this case in particular, I am speaking of it in general terms.

Nothing is more easy to frame, and nothing will destroy a person's credibility and standing faster than being accused, by a thoroughly corrupt system mind you, of being a "kiddie diddler".

WoodenIndian stated that he questions most of these kiddie porn cases.

I am in full agreement and also do the same.

Now, maybe this fellow is a foul hypocrite and is guilty as charged. That I do not know.

All I know is that his name is now smeared, forever, regardless of innocence or guilt.

And that's a mighty dangerous precedent to set.


Yes, sir. I know nothing of this man. I wouldn't pretend to proclaim his guilt or his innocence. But I do question the motives behind those that bring such allegations to the public eye. They kill, maim, destroy, and commit unfathomable atrocities daily... and without hesitation.

It's not out of the question for that type to label someone as a baby poker because they simply insisted on giving a random road deal to their brother-in-law in instead of someone else's nephew or someone was banging someone else's wife. Who knows? They have no conscience and know no boundaries.

Therefore, I believe NOTHING that I hear and only half of what I see.

[willwash]

Well , at a National level , I cannot name 2 who are not evil .....

Kucinich isn't evil. Dead wrong, but not evil. At least he's honest in his wrongness.

Then again, didn't he get gerrymandered out of Congress? Too lazy to look it up.

[angelatc]

Yes, sir. I know nothing of this man. I wouldn't pretend to proclaim his guilt or his innocence. But I do question the motives behind those that bring such allegations to the public eye.

Really? You question the motivations of the journalists who reported that a sitting member of state government was the target in a child porn investigation? You'd prefer they not disclose this stuff, especially in the middle of an election?


Uhm, wot?

Do you think that's true of all crimes, or is it just FBI searches looking for kiddie porn that you want to see sheilded?


ETA: I don't see you making this same point in the other threads about the Democrat arrests for corruption, so ......

[Wooden Indian]

Really? You question the motivations of the journalists who reported that a sitting member of state government was the target in a child porn investigation? You'd prefer they not disclose this stuff, especially in the middle of an election?


Uhm, wot?

Do you think that's true of all crimes, or is it just FBI searches looking for kiddie porn that you want to see sheilded?


ETA: I don't see you making this same point in the other threads about the Democrat arrests for corruption, so ......

Yes. I was speaking about the journalists... good call. Your reading comprehension is top notch.
And I have no idea what you're talking about with the other threads with Democrats being arrested. I didn't know corruption was limited by or exclusive to party.

In short.... dafuq you talking 'bout?

[angelatc]

Yes. I was speaking about the journalists... good call. Your reading comprehension is top notch.
And I have no idea what you're talking about with the other threads with Democrats being arrested. I didn't know corruption was limited by or exclusive to party.

In short.... dafuq you talking 'bout?
'

In the past 2 days, 4 Democrats have been involved in various aspects of criminal investigations. There are threads here on at least 3 of them. I find it both creepy and inconsistent that some people immediately jumped to the defense of the Democrat who is the target of an investigation involving a crime that is generally considered to be the most grievous of them all, while ignoring or even enjoying the similar circumstances of the Democrats who are accused of crimes that carry less of a taboo.

So, knowing that, I ask again to clarify: Do you think that reporters should not report the news that the elite are being investigated publicly for alleged crime? Or is it just the child porn / pedophilia that they should keep mum about? I mean, you didn't show up in the other threads, objecting to the unfairness of the allegations of fiscal improprieties.

At what point do the mundanes get the right to know public information, do you think?

[Wooden Indian]

Okay. I'm bored. I'll play.

Hmm... I would hope the media would report on it. I never said the media shouldn't report on it. Who would?

Also, I said that I question these types of allegations. Not that I defend Democrats, Republicans, hate the free media, or anything else. You're trying to argue something that was never said. And it's kinda creeping me out.

[Wooden Indian]

Ha, and a negative rep. Never got the point in that. But thanks for going out of your way there, Angel.

I don't post here much... looks like you do. Perhaps I should go back to lurking to avoid the whack jobs.

[dannno]

I find it both creepy and inconsistent that some people immediately jumped to the defense of the Democrat who is the target of an investigation involving a crime that is generally considered to be the most grievous of them all

Because the other crimes are harder to fake, and this one is really easy to fake. In fact it is so easy to plant child porn on somebody's computer I think it shouldn't even be a crime to simply possess child porn unless the person actually abused a child. All it does is allow the elite to fuck up other people's lives really easily and it doesn't really do anything to protect children.

[Hyperion]

The Dems in the Senate are dumber than the spawn of satan .

Levin, Boxer, Feinstein, Murray, Schumer, Booker, Rockefeller, Harkin, hell they're entire caucus is sleezy and full of useless Trotskyite leftists. They honestly scare me. If it weren't for guns I'm pretty sure these people would want to purge a lot of the population.