Paul should turn down Secret Service protection

[fedup100]

Paul should turn down SS protection. I vote that we purchase private protection for our Hero. He needs it now and in the Whitehouse. I do not trust the secret service.

[terryp]

I do think he should keep them AND let us gun toating supporters assist him.

[Elwar]

The Secret Service is a branch of the military.

The military supports Ron Paul.

They will be honored to do their duty to protect him.

[TheNewYorker]

I believe Paul would if he won the nomination/presidency. Paul has said himself he believes in the free market, and would never trust the government to do something better than a private party could.

I think the same would apply to the Secret Service. A private security firm hired by Paul could do better than the Secret Service possibly could.

[mosquitobite]

He'll be a target for sure. :(

His VP choice will also determine how MUCH of a target he is. It must be someone like him, not someone the "party" wants!

[Talldude1412]

Paul should turn down SS protection. I vote that we purchase private protection for our Hero. He needs it now and in the Whitehouse. I do not trust the secret service.

The Secret Service is a very loyal group of men, I don't doubt that they would honorably and courageously protect Ron Paul.

[kylejack]

The Secret Service is a branch of the military.

Actually, its under Homeland Security.

[belian78]

The Secret Service is a very loyal group of men, I don't doubt that they would honorably and courageously protect Ron Paul.

yeah they were pretty loyal to ole JFK when he was going into daily plaza huh? watch the tapes, there's a bunch on the way to the plaza, but when his car turns onto that faitful street they fall back.

nope, private security it is...

[davidkachel]

The Secret Service is one of the few righteous groups left in the government. Just let them do their job.
If you want to be suspicious of somebody, the FBI has enough to keep you busy the rest of your life.

[fedup100]

The secret service was deeply involved in the murder of Kennedy who had some of the same ideas that Paul has.

DO NOT TRUST THEM!!

Just as a side note Bill gates has Israeli armed guards with him at all times, but he is jewish. Dr. Paul needs private protection of his choosing that will not have a conflict of interests.

Anyone that has done their homework regarding the Fed Reserve, the IRS etc, knows who his enemies are.

[V-rod]

Too bad Ron Paul isn't a paranoid schizo and would accept their protection.

[tnvoter]

The Secret Service is a branch of the military.

The military supports Ron Paul.

They will be honored to do their duty to protect him.

Well said.

[FireofLiberty]

Actually, its under Homeland Security.

And The Treasury before that. Their primary function used to be dealing with counterfeit money, now that takes a backseat to protection, but they still do things like... you know... participate in a raid on the Liberty Dollar HQ.

[literatim]

The Secret Service needs abolished and replaced with a new military branch.

[Maltheus]

If they are going to assassinate Ron Paul, they aren't going to do it through bullets. They'll trigger a heart attack or car accident. We'll never know for sure what happened, but we'll all suspect it. The MSM would just play it off like the Wellstone assassination (likely anyway).

[RobS]

We need him in the White House first.

[dude58677]

If they are going to assassinate Ron Paul, they aren't going to do it through bullets. They'll trigger a heart attack or car accident. We'll never know for sure what happened, but we'll all suspect it. The MSM would just play it off like the Wellstone assassination (likely anyway).


He should have a citizen militia who will screen everything that comes near him.

[Matt Collins]

The Secret Service is a branch of the military.No it's not. Treasury Department or DHS

[Thomas Paine]

I would take a bullet for Ron Paul.

[Dan D.]

Actually, its under Homeland Security.
Department of the Treasury, actually.

The secret service was deeply involved in the murder of Kennedy who had some of the same ideas that Paul has.

DO NOT TRUST THEM!!

Just as a side note Bill gates has Israeli armed guards with him at all times, but he is jewish. Dr. Paul needs private protection of his choosing that will not have a conflict of interests.

Anyone that has done their homework regarding the Fed Reserve, the IRS etc, knows who his enemies are.Bill Gates is not Jewish. I don't know what you're smoking, but it's probably something Ron Paul would have to legalize.

[Duckman]

Department of the Treasury, actually.
Bill Gates is not Jewish. I don't know what you're smoking, but it's probably something Ron Paul would have to legalize.

I used to work for MSFT, and I have met Bill Gates, and I have never seen any armed guards of any sort.

[ctb619]

Department of the Treasury, actually.


No. The Department of Homeland Security, actually.

[MikeStanart]

I would take a bullet for Ron Paul.


I guess the question of the day is: Where would you take the bullet?

[Thomas Paine]

...in my tombstone as a souvenir.

[ValidusCustodiae]

There will be plenty of Ron Paul supporters who are military, law enforcement, and/or security trained. These are perfect candidates to be a part of his private guard.

[Exponent]

No. The Department of Homeland Security, actually.
Indeed, and here is a reference, assuming you trust the accuracy of Wikipedia: United States Secret Service (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secret_Service):

The United States Secret Service is a United States federal government law enforcement agency that is part of the United States Department of Homeland Security. Until recently the Service was part of the United States Department of Treasury.

[OptionsTrader]

Paul should turn down SS protection. I vote that we purchase private protection for our Hero. He needs it now and in the Whitehouse. I do not trust the secret service.

I hope you will realize that this thread is destined to the hot topics with a title like this.

[atilla]

so you too are saying ron paul's a nazi?

The Schutzstaffel (help·info) (German for "Protective Squadron"), abbreviated Runic "SS" (Runic) or SS (Latin), was a large security and paramilitary organization of the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazi Party) in Germany.

[Corydoras]

I don't know what to think about this question.

For anyone who wants a rip-roaring memoir about the Secret Service, though, I can definitely recommend "Confessions of an Ex-Secret Service Agent," by Marty Venker.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0671679422

[cien750hp]

from the secret service website:
http://www.secretservice.gov/history.shtml

2002 The Department of Homeland Security was established with the passage of (Public Law 107-296) which in part, transfered the United States Secret Service from the Department of the Treasury, to the new department effective March 1, 2003.

[Pharoah]

Wasn't the Secret Service part of the raid on the "Ron Paul dollars"? Could be a conflict of interest there.

[lastnymleft]

There are a lot of mini-empires parasitic upon the US empire that will be rent asunder should Dr Paul be elected. That's a lot of very powerful people with a lot of resources at their disposal, that have a lot to lose, and that will be very pissed off at the prospect of such. So this is an area of justifiable concern. I sincerely worry for him. We could all put in herculean effort towards getting him across the line next Nov 5, for it all to come to nought. So I've been kicking around the idea of perhaps putting up a billboard (at least for a month or so) directly opposite the exit from CIA headquarters in Langley, VA, saying:


Should anything bad happen to
Dr Ron Paul: We're not buying it.

Hell hath no fury
like a Movement scorned.


or even simpler:


Dr Ron Paul
+
"Accident"?
=
Not buying it!

The message would undoubtedly get to Them (the "interested parties") in due course.

Or perhaps similar wording in a modest-sized Washington Post, or NYT ad, just so the other Acronyms don't feel as though we're not watching them, too.

[MarcS]

Just as a side note Bill gates has Israeli armed guards with him at all times, but he is jewish. Dr. Paul needs private protection of his choosing that will not have a conflict of interests.

Um, bill gates is definitely not Jewish.

[BlueGecko]

Ha ha directly across from langley, that would generate press and make the C I A shit themselves

+1

[filmmaker58]

I believe that the individual members of the secret service would protect him loyally, however, they are a part of the military, and are disciplined to follow orders (watch of the tapes of the SS guy shrugging a WTf! when ordered off of Kennedy's car). I'd prefer a group of ex special forces guys who would follow their best judgement no matter who gave the orders. If Kennedy's guys riding the bumpers would have said FU to the guy who called them off, the world might be a much different place.

[xexkxex]

He would let them protect him.

It's just silly to think that he would not.

[filmmaker58]

He also needs to get food people he can trust. I hate to even think about it, But if some people had taken some times to think like scumbags for a moment, 9-11 might not have happened. i can see the headlines now. "Elderly candidate succumbs to rigors of the campaign and becomes deathly ill". We are all worried, because Dr. Paul is one in a billion. Please spend a little of that cash on protection.

[lastnymleft]

He also needs to get food people he can trust. I hate to even think about it, But if some people had taken some times to think like scumbags for a moment, 9-11 might not have happened. i can see the headlines now. "Elderly candidate succumbs to rigors of the campaign and becomes deathly ill". We are all worried, because Dr. Paul is one in a billion. Please spend a little of that cash on protection.

Food security is a legitimate issue, as well. In this NPR interview, Tucker tells how Dr Paul is currently accepting food from supporters:
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16685996

Now I think it's great that he's so laid back about such things. It shows both the love that his supporters have for him, and the humbleness of the man. But it is also a serious security breach, in which to do something nefarious would be relatively trivial.

I think we're "right" so long as they think they can keep him out via "legitimate" means (eg the media shutout), but as soon as they really start to worry, we should too. I dread the notion that by making December 16th absolutely spectacular - as we must do - we may be, so to speak, "killing him with kindness".

We need to be proactive on this, lest we be left with nothing but reactionary options. And the reactionary options on top of a national tragedy, are all even WORSE, as a number of them (eg mass, angry protests) would likely be considered legitimate triggers for a "National Emergency" that would invoke the dreaded Executive Orders.