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jct74
03-20-2014, 11:27 PM
Big in the Bluegrass

In Kentucky, it’s already all about President Paul.
http://images.politico.com/global/2014/03/20/140320_youngman_randpaul.jpg

By SAM YOUNGMAN
March 20, 2014

Damon Thayer, a Republican state senator, rose on the Kentucky Senate floor Tuesday to respond to the critical speech a Democrat had just given about his bill. “If we game this out and we are preparing for the inauguration of President Paul on Jan. 20, 2017…” Thayer began.

President Paul. As in Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul.

The national polls and punditry that are crowning Paul the frontrunner for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination have made their way to Kentucky, and some folks are pretty excited.

“Right now you can make a legitimate list of 10 or 12 [people] who have a chance to be the next president of the United States,” Thayer said. “Senator Paul is currently, according to polls and pundits, the frontrunner for the Republican nomination to be president of the United States.”

Thayer’s bill, a clarifying measure that seeks to solve a ballot-access issue facing Paul if he tries to run for the White House and his Senate seat at the same time, passed the state Senate this week, the most recent win in a string of momentum-building events that has, along with the commonwealth’s closely watched Senate race, brought national political reporters to Kentucky for a closer look at Paul the frontrunner.

“We’re not just caught in a moment,” said Nate Morris, a close friend and informal advisor of Paul’s who lives in Lexington, Ky. “He’s clearly making a deeper connection with the American people, and it’s an exciting thing to watch it keep growing.”

And to the faithful here in the Bluegrass, there’s no question that it will.

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read more:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/rand-paul-big-in-the-bluegrass-104878_full.html

jkr
03-21-2014, 12:42 AM
http://static3.businessinsider.com/image/4fb451c66bb3f7d978000014/ron-paul-libertarian-party-1988.jpg

TomtheTinker
03-21-2014, 07:13 AM
It's happening!

Inkblots
03-21-2014, 07:33 AM
They used a flattering picture of Rand? What witchcraft is this?!

Dogsoldier
03-21-2014, 12:30 PM
You know the establishment is going to run as many candidates as they can get on that stage to drowned out Rand. They did the same thing to Ron.

When was the last time we seen that many candidates up on a stage running for potus?

We could be looking at 15,20 guys standing on the stage this time.

idiom
03-21-2014, 01:48 PM
Maybe Rand and libertarians generally should re-brand states rights as states responsibilities.

As in, 'Education is a responsibility of the state, not the federal government'.

Update the refrain of good government is keeping responsibility as local as possible.

Or something.

Matt Collins
03-21-2014, 03:00 PM
Maybe Rand and libertarians generally should re-brand states rights as states responsibilities.
Or something.Only individuals have rights. Government has powers and authority.

idiom
03-21-2014, 04:56 PM
Rights, Power, Authority, restatements of the same terms.

You have the Authority to bear arms, the government does not have the authority to stop you.

The Government does however have the right to try you in a court of law, you do not have the authority to stop it.



If you don't think states have 'rights' then you should mention it to Rand or Ron.


Either way, rephrasing the arguments will stop the alarm bells and accusations of racism, and help to communicate the points in a way people will hear them.

MichaelDavis
03-21-2014, 04:59 PM
It's happening!
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1815409/Ron-Paul_Its-Happening1.gif

philipped
03-21-2014, 08:09 PM
http://cdn2.sbnation.com/imported_assets/1815409/Ron-Paul_Its-Happening1.gif
^^^

WD-NY
03-21-2014, 09:31 PM
They used a flattering picture of Rand? What witchcraft is this?!

LOL!

But srsly, what the heck is going on in MSM-land this week?? Are all the Pro-Establishment Editors on vacation or something?!

WD-NY
03-21-2014, 09:55 PM
Doh! Spoke too soon... Politico ran this story as well today


Ready for Rand?Americans hate Rand Paul’s libertarianism. They just don’t know it yet.
By KEVIN D. WILLIAMSON, March 20, 2014


http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2014/03/rand-paul-america-hates-liberterians-104858.html?ml=m_po#.Uy0IZa1dUwU
http://images.politico.com/global/2014/03/20/140320_williamson_randpaul2.jpg

Matt Collins
03-21-2014, 10:20 PM
Rights, Power, Authority, restatements of the same terms.Incorrect... they are all very different things.


You have the Authority to bear arms, the government does not have the authority to stop you.
No, you have the right to bear arms which is natural. The government has the authority and thus the power to stop you from bearing arms if you have infringed on the rights of others.



The Government does however have the right to try you in a court of law, you do not have the authority to stop it.Incorrect, the government has the authority to try you in a court of law, you do not have a right to say "no".




If you don't think states have 'rights' then you should mention it to Rand or Ron.State governments have powers that are reserved to them. They only delegated a few powers to the US federal government in the Constitution. Ron himself says "rights only belong to individuals"



Mike does a great job at explaining this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V31zYjZamz4

menciusmoldbug
03-21-2014, 11:13 PM
Doh! Spoke too soon... Politico ran this story as well today

You do realize that this is a pro-Rand Paul article, right? It's an indictment/condemnation of the American people. The author is bitterly expressing a sentiment shared by many on these forums - that Americans will not vote for a libertarian because they're basically socially illiberal communists who want massive government spending, redistribution, and never-ending wars overseas.

He overstates the case, I think, but there is a kernel of truth here. Rand has been forced to moderate on many issues and will have to do so even more in order to both win the nomination and beat Hillary.