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tsai3904
03-19-2014, 01:50 PM
The senior lawyer for the National Security Agency stated unequivocally on Wednesday that US technology companies were fully aware of the surveillance agency’s widespread collection of data, contradicting month of angry denials from the firms.

Rajesh De, the NSA general counsel, said all communications content and associated metadata harvested by the NSA under a 2008 surveillance law occurred with the knowledge of the companies – both for the internet collection program known as Prism and for the so-called “upstream” collection of communications moving across the internet.

Asked during at a Wednesday hearing of the US government’s institutional privacy watchdog if collection under the law, known as Section 702 or the Fisa Amendments Act, occurred with the “full knowledge and assistance of any company from which information is obtained,” De replied: “Yes.”

When the Guardian and the Washington Post broke the Prism story in June, thanks to documents leaked by whistleblower Edward Snowden, nearly all the companies listed as participating in the program – Yahoo, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and AOL – claimed they did not know about a surveillance practice described as giving NSA vast access to their customers’ data. Some, like Apple, said they had “never heard” the term Prism.

De explained: “Prism was an internal government term that as the result of leaks became the public term,” De said. “Collection under this program was a compulsory legal process, that any recipient company would receive.”

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http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/mar/19/us-tech-giants-knew-nsa-data-collection-rajesh-de

Anti Federalist
03-19-2014, 02:18 PM
When the Guardian and the Washington Post broke the Prism story in June, thanks to documents leaked by whistleblower Edward Snowden, nearly all the companies listed as participating in the program – Yahoo, Apple, Google, Microsoft, Facebook and AOL – claimed they did not know about a surveillance practice described as giving NSA vast access to their customers’ data. Some, like Apple, said they had “never heard” the term Prism.

Lying Copsuckers.

HOLLYWOOD
03-19-2014, 02:47 PM
Lavabit proved communications/internet companies were forced to submit to all of government spying. But, is was the Snowden released NSA slides that revealed huge compensations to TELCOs and Internet based corporations. The line items in all the spy agencies, budgeting for payments to "internet partners" and account requests.

ALL the companies that denied involvement are liars... usually the chief council of Human Resources departments... it's the CEOs and mouthpieces that have been lying to the public are the ones that need to be held accountable at every public event.

willwash
03-19-2014, 03:07 PM
Lavabit proved communications/internet companies were forced to submit to all of government spying. But, is was the Snowden released NSA slides that revealed huge compensations to TELCOs and Internet based corporations. The line items in all the spy agencies, budgeting for payments to "internet partners" and account requests.

ALL the companies that denied involvement are liars... usually the chief council of Human Resources departments... it's the CEOs and mouthpieces that have been lying to the public are the ones that need to be held accountable at every public event.

The "mouthpieces" probably really do believe their companies are innocent. You think they would ever let their $50,000-a-year spokesboy in on the secret collaboration? There's no need to know, in fact there's the opposite.

DamianTV
03-19-2014, 04:04 PM
Lying Copsuckers.

Not necessarily.

Keep in mind that many of whom the various branches of Govt have demanded data from also made those demands with a Gag Order. Remember Lavabit? Other side of the coin is that the listed companies possibly approached the NSA trying to sell them the data they had on people too. The potential for both possiblities exists, but I certainly dont trust em as far as I could throw them.

FindLiberty
03-19-2014, 05:19 PM
money (the generous printing press kind) and power BOTH corrupt...