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aGameOfThrones
03-14-2014, 10:05 PM
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — A federal judge Friday struck down Arkansas' attempt to ban most abortions beginning 12 weeks into a woman's pregnancy, saying viability, not a heartbeat, remains the key factor in determining whether abortions should be allowed.

U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright last year had stopped enforcement of the law while she reviewed it, and on Friday she declared that it was unconstitutional. She cited previous court decisions that said abortions shouldn't be restricted until after a fetus reaches viability, which is typically at 22 to 24 weeks.

"The state presents no evidence that a fetus can live outside the mother's womb at twelve weeks," the judge wrote.

In her decision Friday, Wright said only a doctor could determine viability.

"The Supreme Court has ... stressed that it is not the proper function of the legislature or the courts to place viability at a specific point in the gestation period," Wright wrote.

Wright left in place a portion of the law that requires doctors to check for a fetal heartbeat and to notify the pregnant woman if one is present.

"The ruling is what the governor predicted in his veto letter last year," Beebe spokesman Matt DeCample said.

The state attorney general's office said it was reviewing possible next steps. "Today's decision was not a surprise," spokesman Aaron Sadler said.

Bettina Brownstein, who represented two doctors who perform abortions at a Little Rock clinic, said the 12-week ban was "demeaning to women."

"The law never should have been passed in the first place, it's so unquestionably unconstitutional," she said. She said it was unlikely that Drs. Louis Jerry Edwards and Tom Tvedten would appeal the portion of the law requiring them to notify patients if a heartbeat is detected.


http://news.yahoo.com/us-judge-strikes-arkansas-12-week-abortion-ban-213254963.html

James Madison
03-14-2014, 11:31 PM
LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — A federal judge Friday struck down Arkansas' attempt to ban most abortions beginning 12 weeks into a woman's pregnancy, saying viability, not a heartbeat, remains the key factor in determining whether abortions should be allowed.

U.S. District Judge Susan Webber Wright last year had stopped enforcement of the law while she reviewed it, and on Friday she declared that it was unconstitutional. She cited previous court decisions that said abortions shouldn't be restricted until after a fetus reaches viability, which is typically at 22 to 24 weeks.

"The state presents no evidence that a fetus can live outside the mother's womb at twelve weeks," the judge wrote.

In her decision Friday, Wright said only a doctor could determine viability

Viability outside of the host is not a qualification for life...

Self-replication, homeostasis, metabolism, etc. are.

Do any of these people know basic science?

Paulbot99
03-15-2014, 10:50 AM
Viability outside of the host is not a qualification for life...

Self-replication, homeostasis, metabolism, etc. are.

Do any of these people know basic science?

Just Cultural Marxist science.

I<3Liberty
03-16-2014, 12:00 AM
I'm going to quote Brad, a commenter on the Yahoo! article:

"Three things have been proven time and time again to reduce the number of unwanted pregnancies, thereby also reducing the number of abortions.... Free Contraception, Family Planning Services, and Better Education for Women (and men). Surprisingly, republicans and so-called pro-lifers are against all three of these things."

So I disagree with the "free contraception" part. I would argue that solutions like Parsemus Foundation's Vasalgel--a long-lasting, 100% effective, virtually side effect-free contraceptive that they are committed to making affordable for all. What makes me mad is when extreme-right wingers (mostly catholic) oppose contraceptives and contraceptive education. Unlike Brad said, not all republicans are against it, but some don't help in indirect ways. So many donate to the pregnancy resource centers are catered to catholic beliefs and are adamantly anti-contraception and spit inaccurate information regarding contraceptives. People just continue to complain about these sorts of bills and bat into the ground the same circular argument instead of playing an active role in prevention of unwanted pregnancies. Legal or not, the black market will takeover. Right now, only prevention of unwanted pregnancies will essentially end this issue.



Viability outside of the host is not a qualification for life...

Self-replication, homeostasis, metabolism, etc. are.

Do any of these people know basic science?

This isn't the best argument. Keep in mind that this whole debate is one of ontology; life and personhood are two separate milestones.