Grieving Cal. mom takes down cross on road after group’s protest, more appear

[Origanalist]

Published March 07, 2014FoxNews.com

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A grieving California mom who, under pressure from an atheist group, went to the site where her son was killed to remove a memorial cross was met at the scene by a throng of supporters who planted crosses of their own.

"They said they have to take that one down," Doug Johnson, a Riverside resident who traveled to the site with his daughter and six home-made crosses, told The Riverside Press-Enterprise. "But they didn't say anything about putting another one up."

AnnMarie Devaney agreed to remove a 5-foot cross she put up on the side of a road in Lake Elsinore to honor her 19-year-old son Anthony, who was struck by a car and killed two years ago, the paper reported. The American Humanist Association in Washington, D.C., caught wind of the cross and sent her a demand letter dated March 4 calling for her to remove it. The association said that its placement on city property violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

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[kcchiefs6465]

The stupidity knows no bounds.

[Paulbot99]

Freedom from Being Offended. :rolleyes:

[2young2vote]

The constitution does not require separation of Church and State on the local level. Heck, it doesn't even require it on the federal level. Do these people get a high every time they see a cross?

[Ender]

The constitution does not require separation of Church and State on the local level. Heck, it doesn't even require it on the federal level. Do these people get a high every time they see a cross?

Correct.

There is absolutely NO reference to separation of Church and State in the Constitution.

It says that "Congress shall make NO LAW" concerning religion and the free exercise thereof.


Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievance


Technically, the American Humanist Association has broken constitutional law by not allowing the free exercise of this woman's religious beliefs.

[Paulbot99]

Correct.

There is absolutely NO reference to separation of Church and State in the Constitution.

It says that "Congress shall make NO LAW" concerning religion and the free exercise thereof.




Technically, the American Humanist Association has broken constitutional law by not allowing the free exercise of this woman's religious beliefs.

But... But... A letter Thomas Jefferson once wrote!

[2young2vote]

Correct.

There is absolutely NO reference to separation of Church and State in the Constitution.

It says that "Congress shall make NO LAW" concerning religion and the free exercise thereof.




Technically, the American Humanist Association has broken constitutional law by not allowing the free exercise of this woman's religious beliefs.

I don't think they broke any law. They are an organization and not a government body. They can ask whoever they want to do whatever they want. I'm surprised she didn't refuse. I've looked on this Humanist website and these people are a bunch of wackos. It is their mission to eliminate religion from society. Their slogan is literally "Good without a god."

[Paulbot99]

I just get the feeling that they would not be afraid to use the law to suppress religion by force. Maybe they'd advocate atheism taught to children in school.

[fr33]

If the road was privately owned it would probably be bad business to have virtual headstones strewn about. Just sayin... If I die in a car wreck, I want my family to put up a strobe light with sound effects.

Am I wrong to think that this "put a memorial up at a crash site for several years" is a relatively new thing? I really started to notice it about 10 years ago. Before that, not so much.

[Feeding the Abscess]

I live in Lake Elsinore. Guess I should have essentially camped out by the site to get interviewed by every news outlet possible.

But really, I commented about how this would be a non-issue if the roads were privatized; that the road owner would then decide if memorial displays could be placed on road sides, and which icons would be acceptable if vigils were allowed. I also said something about the atheist group merely trading a religious figure for the state.

It got one like. Banal Jesus freak and statheist comments got dozens.

[Origanalist]

If the road was privately owned it would probably be bad business to have virtual headstones strewn about. Just sayin... If I die in a car wreck, I want my family to put up a strobe light with sound effects.

Am I wrong to think that this "put a memorial up at a crash site for several years" is a relatively new thing? I really started to notice it about 10 years ago. Before that, not so much.

It's nothing new, at least around here. But it has become a little more common.

[Origanalist]

I live in Lake Elsinore. Guess I should have essentially camped out by the site to get interviewed by every news outlet possible.

But really, I commented about how this would be a non-issue if the roads were privatized; that the road owner would then decide if memorial displays could be placed on road sides, and which icons would be acceptable if vigils were allowed. I also said something about the atheist group merely trading a religious figure for the state.

It got one like. Banal Jesus freak and statheist comments got dozens.

You're either with us or the terrorists.

[VIDEODROME]

Maybe vampires drive around that corner and complained

[donnay]

AnnMarie Devaney agreed to remove a 5-foot cross she put up on the side of a road in Lake Elsinore to honor her 19-year-old son Anthony, who was struck by a car and killed two years ago, the paper reported. The American Humanist Association in Washington, D.C., caught wind of the cross and sent her a demand letter dated March 4 calling for her to remove it. The association said that its placement on city property violates the constitutional separation of church and state.

There is no constitutional separation of church and state. They must have been talking to Sheila Jackson Lee.

[Cissy]

It's a shame folks like that choose to focus on what offends them than on what is symbolized---a fellow citizen died in a tragic accident.

[Natural Citizen]

I live in Lake Elsinore. Guess I should have essentially camped out by the site to get interviewed by every news outlet possible.

But really, I commented about how this would be a non-issue if the roads were privatized; that the road owner would then decide if memorial displays could be placed on road sides, and which icons would be acceptable if vigils were allowed. I also said something about the atheist group merely trading a religious figure for the state.

It got one like. Banal Jesus freak and statheist comments got dozens.

Privatized roads is tyranny waiting to happen. Not a good idea in my opinion. Especially given the Technological and Information Age we live in. Cripes, I think we already have some foreign interests who own some of our roads or tollways.

[fr33]

Privatized roads is tyranny waiting to happen. Not a good idea in my opinion. Especially given the Technological and Information Age we live in. Cripes, I think we already have some foreign interests who own some of our roads or tollways.

The majority of private tollways were built using tax dollars then sold to private corporations. They are also subject to public traffic laws. Private roads aren't tyrannical. The shared monopoly that some private roads have with the government are. Are you more likely to be tyrannized when you enter a public road/parking lot or a private one?

[Philhelm]

Privatized roads is tyranny waiting to happen. Not a good idea in my opinion. Especially given the Technological and Information Age we live in. Cripes, I think we already have some foreign interests who own some of our roads or tollways.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R21uFSWV6Qc

[chudrockz]

Freedom from Being Offended. :rolleyes:

Yep. As an atheist, what this group did to a grieving mother is absolutely disgusting.

[Voluntarist]

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[Voluntarist]

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[Danke]

Looks like that group has their work cut out for them:

http://fiscalofficer.cuyahogacounty.us/img_fiscalofficer/en-us/VetCemeteries.jpg

[oyarde]

Privatized roads is tyranny waiting to happen. Not a good idea in my opinion. Especially given the Technological and Information Age we live in. Cripes, I think we already have some foreign interests who own some of our roads or tollways.

I am getting my toll booth ready :) For fun , I intend to buy the roads around my Leadman that works for me @ works house and charge him to enter and leave , LOL

[Philhelm]

Looks like that group has their work cut out for them:

http://fiscalofficer.cuyahogacounty.us/img_fiscalofficer/en-us/VetCemeteries.jpg

Especially since the government creates more crosses than every Christian church combined.

[phill4paul]

https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQQrllFUyB02wsOyNNWvfwtINGEcCE_i-G7ZxSj93tTeFmTjxiRwg

[Ender]

But... But... A letter Thomas Jefferson once wrote!

Funny how a personal POV is now dictated as constitutional. ;)

[Pericles]

It's a shame folks like that choose to focus on what offends them than on what is symbolized---a fellow citizen died in a tragic accident.

They are just happy that his carbon footprint was reduced.