Remove Huckabee From Ron Paul Graphs Poll

[reduen]

So, what should it be?

1.) Remove completley.

2.) Ristrict access in some way.

3.) Keep the same.

4.) Make information like his CFR connections more available with the graph.

Sorry if this does not work, I am trying to figure out how to make a poll here..

[drexhex]

At the bottom of when you're making a new thread (below the submit button) there's a box with options. The last option is to put a poll in the thread.

[sharedvoice]

I personally think that we should remove all huckabee data from ronpaul graphs or have it in a secure area and release it ONLY monthly.

Because his supporters have been using it to calculate their success vs ours in terms of fundraising. And it encourages them.

So I say remove it compeltely. Store the data and only release monthly totals on Huckabee.

[njandrewg]

i'm for putting information about his shitty record on there, might convert some people

[sharedvoice]

i'm for putting information about his shitty record on there, might convert some people

Yeah, I'm ok with that... As it is right now though, it does not benifit us at all. If anything it they can compare their numbers against ours and set milestones.

[hillertexas]

bump

[Steve4RP]

Remove it. Why give another candidate continual play.

[Edward]

Please do NOT remove the comparison graph. It's all good.

[Midnight77]

Well, I noticed that the Huckabee supporters are actually using the graph very regularly on their forum. So, this allows them to very easily compare to see how much they need to raise to beat him. It helps us see where they are, but it is also helping his supporters see where he is.

I say we remove it.

[sharedvoice]

Yeah, I just say scrap it. If someone is interested in knowing how much Huckleberry has raised they can visit his site.

Putting up links to his Huck's aweful record as Governor would be pointless, since they only goto ronpaulgraphs to compair fundraising numbers. And if they interpret graphs and are that interested in seeing totals for their candidate I doubt they would click on those links.

[conner_condor]

Let them crash their own server as they have done before and don't let them see their detailed progress to motivate them.

[francisco]

i'm for putting information about his shitty record on there, might convert some people

This is already there to some extent.

Every time a Huckabee supporter looks at the graph, he is confronted with a highlighted linked comment along the lines of "Supporting Huckabee? Hope you like taxes! He's a scary guy..."

[sharedvoice]

Well, I noticed that the Huckabee supporters are actually using the graph very regularly on their forum. So, this allows them to very easily compare to see how much they need to raise to beat him. It helps us see where they are, but it is also helping his supporters see where he is.

I say we remove it.

YES REMOVE IT PLEASE. IT DOES MORE HARM THAN GOOD.

[sharedvoice]

This is already there to some extent.

Every time a Huckabee supporter looks at the graph, he is confronted with a highlighted linked comment along the lines of "Supporting Huckabee? Hope you like taxes! He's a scary guy..."


Problem with this is they wont click on it... They already know their guy and are convinced about him. Why else would they be so interested to interpret a fundraising data graphs LOL

[chowda]

I've done this poll on my blog already and it was overwhelming in favor of keeping it... and my current poll indicates that people want even more candidates if their info is available... sorry, but I'm not going to be removing the Huck graphs :)

[reduen]

Well I can tell you that they are using it today to try and beat us.

Make no mistakes, if you think that they are not calling out all the guns today you are sadly mistaken. I really would not be surprised if the Huckster himeself is not involved with this effort as much as possible.

[Edward]

Huck's Army has never had any more than 165 users online at any one time... and that was just after November 5th concluded! I think some of you are giving way too much weight to the amount it is used by Huckabee supporters.

[Edward]

Well I can tell you that they are using it today to try and beat us.Yeah... all 20 of them, plus their 25 guests... which are probably US.

[Ron Paul Fan]

Good. It's chowda's site, let him make the decision what to put on it. I personally like the Huckabee graph as it leads to some days where we have a good race to see who can get the most like that one day we beat him on his own money bomb day. That day was a great day for morale.

[chowda]

Well I can tell you that they are using it today to try and beat us.

Make no mistakes, if you think that they are not calling out all the guns today you are sadly mistaken. I really would not be surprised if the Huckster himeself is not involved with this effort as much as possible.

let them try... check the graph.. they're already loosing steam... I think it's game over for today.

[reduen]

I've done this poll on my blog already and it was overwhelming in favor of keeping it... and my current poll indicates that people want even more candidates if their info is available... sorry, but I'm not going to be removing the Huck graphs :)

No offense intended Chowda. I was just asked to do a poll on this and ultimately we all know it is up too you. Thank you again for making this data available to us.:)

[conner_condor]

I would like to know reason why to leave it? I am sure there are some huck trolls here disguised and some of the "keep it votes" should be ignored.

[sharedvoice]

Well, because people are curious to make comparisons...but, the fact is they benefit more from the data than we do. It should be scrapped, because it encourages them.

[qsecofr]

Jeeze people, the competition helps us besides what would it say if we yanked the graph? Do we have something the fear?

We will win by our own merits or not at all, so go out there and show people what our merits are all about because we won't win by attacking other candidates.

If Huck starts raising money then that should only motivate us to work harder, if you can't see that then you've admitted defeat. I'm going to pitch in another $50 bucks because I'm tired of this graph nonsense.

[conner_condor]

I've done this poll on my blog already and it was overwhelming in favor of keeping it... and my current poll indicates that people want even more candidates if their info is available... sorry, but I'm not going to be removing the Huck graphs :)

Don't forget this country is republic and not democracy.
Restore the republic by start by removing the huck graph. Bring this country back. Start right here on your own gragh.:D:D:D:D

[sharedvoice]

Jeeze people, the competition helps us besides what would it say if we yanked the graph? Do we have something the fear?

We will win by our own merits or not at all, so go out there and show people what our merits are all about because we won't win by attacking other candidates.

If Huck starts raising money then that should only motivate us to work harder, if you can't see that then you've admitted defeat. I'm going to pitch in another $50 bucks because I'm tired of this graph nonsense.


here we go another crybaby. What would they say???? What would they think??? Don't attack, let's just play submissive-passive sheep for a day.

Hell no! I want to bash some Huckleberry skulls in.... Kick some ass & take some names man!!! Freedom is worth fighting for!

[conner_condor]

I say we link to their gragh then and view it also then. Fair is fair brother.

[Edward]

I would like to know reason why to leave it?I like to see how we are doing against the other "darkhorse" candidate, and I like for them to see it, too. I like not being afraid of Huckabee's supporters. I like disclosure. I like the idea that they would have to see Huckabee's negatives everytime they check the data.

[1town]

There should be a respectful list of reasons why Paul > Huck on the page.

[Edward]

There should be a respectful list of reasons why Paul > Huck on the page.Yep, yep.

[chowda]

No offense intended Chowda. I was just asked to do a poll on this and ultimately we all know it is up too you. Thank you again for making this data available to us.:)

None taken! Poll it up :)

I like the graph and never wanted to take it down... but some people complained, so I ran a poll of my own and found most people felt as I do... and clearly the traffic indicates that many others do to... the amount of traffic I get from huckabee related websites is trivial... and they rarely beat us...

I think taking it down at this point sends the wrong message... who is scared of Huck? He's a religious zealot that doesn't believe in science and he loves to tax people... I don't think we have anything to worry about.

[chowda]

There should be a respectful list of reasons why Paul > Huck on the page.

If someone has some better copy for that page... I'm certainly willing to update it... email your suggestions to me... dan at ron paul graphs dot com

[qsecofr]

here we go another crybaby.

Lol, aren't you one of the crowd that wants to change things because you feel threatened?

Grow a pair and donate more money if your frightened. Maligning other republican candidates is not the way to attract moderates which will decide if we win or not.

If you really wanna go on the attack start posting about the democrats dirty laundry at places like wonkette and dailykos because we won't carve a majority out of the repub base by acting like liberals. When we get the nom our grassroots army will have to work overtime to combat the left spin machine... better to start now I would say then fretting over Huck beating us like 5 days out of the month.

[sharedvoice]

If someone has some better copy for that page... I'm certainly willing to update it... email your suggestions to me... dan at ron paul graphs dot com

Yeah, we need to do something with that page... Like a side by side comparison of the two candidates... really barney style so they can understand... We shouldn't just give them data for free though they should atleast earn it by reading something about Ron Paul :D

[conner_condor]

If someone has some better copy for that page... I'm certainly willing to update it... email your suggestions to me... dan at ron paul graphs dot com


How about when they click on the huck gragh to make larger, they see the RP gun ad or it directs them here.. Atleast wound them a bit so they can't have the large version. Or maybe send them to a porn site?:D

[francisco]

I wonder if it would be feasible to install a feature on the Huckabee vs. Paul comparison graphs that would require the viewer to first correctly answer a multiple choice question on one of Huckabee's positions in order to see the graph?

We could have a lot of fun with that, and maybe gain some converts as well! Keep it civil and fact-based, rotate the qustion daily, focus on taxes, civil liberties, and the Iraq war. The truth will set you free!

Every time a Huckabee supporter went to our site to use one of our tools for his own partisan benefit, he would first be forced to confront one of the ugly realities connected with his candidate. LOL!

[sharedvoice]

I wonder if it would be feasible to install a feature on the Huckabee vs. Paul comparison graphs that would require the viewer to first correctly answer a multiple choice question on one of Huckabee's positions in order to see the graph?

We could have a lot of fun with that, and maybe gain some converts as well! Keep it civil and fact-based, rotate the qustion daily, focus on taxes, civil liberties, and the Iraq war. The truth will set you free!

Every time a Huckabee supporter went to our site to use one of our tools for his own partisan benefit, he would first be forced to confront one of the ugly realities connected with his candidate. LOL!

LOL yeah I was thinking about that LIKE A MULTI-CHOICE QUESTION ABOUT THEIR CANDIDATE before they get to see their data. MAKE IT LEARNING and FUN expereince lol

[conner_condor]

I wonder if it would be feasible to install a feature on the Huckabee vs. Paul comparison graphs that would require the viewer to first correctly answer a multiple choice question on one of Huckabee's positions in order to see the graph?

We could have a lot of fun with that, and maybe gain some converts as well! Keep it civil and fact-based, rotate the qustion daily, focus on taxes, civil liberties, and the Iraq war. The truth will set you free!

Every time a Huckabee supporter went to our site to use one of our tools for his own partisan benefit, he would first be forced to confront one of the ugly realities connected with his candidate. LOL!


I am sure he can change the link that is used to turn the small gragh to the large gragh quite easy. Just put a link after the small gragh is clicked on.

[francisco]

I am sure he can change the link that is used to turn the small gragh to the large gragh quite easy. Just put a link after the small gragh is clicked on.

Sounds good!

Of course, then they'll just squint and only look at the small-scale graph.

Our response: make the small-scale graph REALLY small! HaHa

[chowda]

Well... this poll was answered for us at 1am when huckabee turned off his live numbers.... oh well :)

[hillertexas]

How about when they click on the huck gragh to make larger, they see the RP gun ad or it directs them here.. Atleast wound them a bit so they can't have the large version. :D

I like this...what about directing it to www.ronpaul2008.com??

[hillertexas]

I wonder if it would be feasible to install a feature on the Huckabee vs. Paul comparison graphs that would require the viewer to first correctly answer a multiple choice question on one of Huckabee's positions in order to see the graph?

We could have a lot of fun with that, and maybe gain some converts as well! Keep it civil and fact-based, rotate the qustion daily, focus on taxes, civil liberties, and the Iraq war. The truth will set you free!

Every time a Huckabee supporter went to our site to use one of our tools for his own partisan benefit, he would first be forced to confront one of the ugly realities connected with his candidate. LOL!

I LOVE THIS

[spiteface]

I wonder if it would be feasible to install a feature on the Huckabee vs. Paul comparison graphs that would require the viewer to first correctly answer a multiple choice question on one of Huckabee's positions in order to see the graph?

We could have a lot of fun with that, and maybe gain some converts as well! Keep it civil and fact-based, rotate the qustion daily, focus on taxes, civil liberties, and the Iraq war. The truth will set you free!

Every time a Huckabee supporter went to our site to use one of our tools for his own partisan benefit, he would first be forced to confront one of the ugly realities connected with his candidate. LOL!

YES! This idea is awesome. Info like what is up on Drudge right now is perfect. Here is one:

http://www.arkansasleader.com/2007/11/editorialswhos-biggest-tax-raiser.html

The link doesn't work on the other but it says he pushed new taxes on gas, hospital beds, and pet groomers....

[bolidew]

Anything can be done about this?

[CelestialRender]

Let Huck's fans keep track of his money.

There's entirely too much Huck talk on the RP networks; we're contributing to his media buzz.