Who is your second choice after Ron Paul?

[brumans]

The media has been curious. Let's see where the people stand.

Who would you vote for if, God forbid, Ron Paul doesn't make it on the ballots.

[gagnonstudio]

Second Choice: Ron Paul

Third choice: Ron Paul

Fourth choice: Mickey Mouse

[MadViking10]

There is no second choice for me. If I have to I will write Ron Pauls name on my ballot with a big fat sharpie.

[happyphilter]

Ron paul
too bad he cant be president and vice president
But in all seriousness, I cannot except anyone else who is running as a choice

[maxmerkel]

There is no second choice for me. If I have to I will write Ron Pauls name on my ballot with a big fat sharpie.

then vote - None 0% ;)
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ok, that changed quite fast :)

[ckhagen]

Are you kidding me?

Write in all the way. I couldn't in good conscience vote for anyone else.

[ladyjade3]

If RP doesn't get the nom.... I'd probably show up to vote for any local and state level Ron Paul Republicans, but I'd leave President blank. Statist A or Statist B is not really a choice. How could I choose?

[megasooner]

My loyalty is non-transferable

[RonPaulCult]

Dennis Kucinich used to be my first choice before Ron Paul sparked a political transformation in my life. Even still I would choose him second because of his stance on the war which is my number one issue.

[RP4Pres2008]

Wouldn't vote...I couldn't sell out my beliefs and values after all this.

[deedles]

Second Choice: Ron Paul

Third choice: Ron Paul

Fourth choice: Mickey Mouse

fifth choice: whomever can get us the best food in the FEMA camp!

[conner_condor]

I will not vote for anyone but RP...... No other candidate will get my vote.

[gagnonstudio]

fifth choice: whomever can get us the best food in the FEMA camp!

I swear Mickey is going to win one of these years.

[DZE]

Ron Paul

[njandrewg]

used to be Huckabee then I found out what piece of shit he is, and now I'll probably just vote 3rd party if Paul doesn't win the nomination

[allyinoh]

I will be writing in the good Doctor! =)

[RevolutionSD]

I'd write in Paul or vote for the libertarian candidate.
I think before any of that would happen we would draft Paul to run as an indy.

[brumans]

used to be Huckabee then I found out what piece of shit he is, and now I'll probably just vote 3rd party if Paul doesn't win the nomination

Yeah, that's pretty much how it is. I like most of the other candidates until they start talking.

[BeFranklin]

Write in. I write in Ron Paul if I have to.

[ronpaulitician]

I think getting out of Iraq asap is the most crucial aspect of this presidential election.

Kucinich would be my second choice, if not for the write-in option.

[rpfreedom08]

bringing a big permanent marker just incase he isn't on it.

[thehittgirl]

Dennis Kucinich used to be my first choice before Ron Paul sparked a political transformation in my life. Even still I would choose him second because of his stance on the war which is my number one issue.

I flip flop on this. I like Dennis because of his stance on the war, and opposition to NAFTA, but that's about it. The war is on the top of my concerns, But if I was not to write Ron in(but I will) and have to vote someone in, he would be it.

[Roxi]

i second the write it in with the sharpie motion

[schmeisser]

I don't really have a second choice, but I would enjoy a Republican race between Paul,Thompson and Huckabee. I don't think Guiliani and Romney belong and Tancredo/Hunter have zero support and should drop.

Imagine how much more productive the debate would have been.

[dsentell]

Ron Paul gets my vote. PERIOD.

I will have a Sharpie in hand if necessary . . .

[Question_Authority]

The other day Chris Matthews asked Pat Buchanan that if someone were to force him to vote for either Hillary or Obama, which would he choose?

Pat Buchanan said "I would tell them to turn the screws". Which made Chris (and me) laugh out loud.

That would be my answer to anyone who said "Who else would you vote for if someone forced you to choose?".

TURN THE SCREWS.

[BlueGecko]

Before RP I had never cared about politics except to be disgusted after the Revolution I'm afraid that no longer will I be apathetic. It might be time to listen to those militias and start stocking up on the rounds:D

[awitelin]

If Oklahomans could write in, I would do that. Sadly, our presidential ballots lack that option, and have only the Democrat and Republican options, and I am unsure what I would pick.

[mmink15]

My three top choices are the 3 candidates that believe in the importance of individual rights and supporting the Constitution. I have only found that 3 candidates do this. Ron Paul, Mike Gravel, and Dennis Kucinich. It surprises me that these are the most ridiculed and hidden candidates in the media. I latched onto Ron Paul because it's gonna take a revolution to restore common Constitutional values and only Ron Paul offers that.

[JosephTheLibertarian]

The media has been curious. Let's see where the people stand.

Who would you vote for if, God forbid, Ron Paul doesn't make it on the ballots.

your mom

[BlueGecko]

[QUOTE=JosephTheLibertarian;497554]your mom[/QUOTE
Classic:p

[pacelli]

Write-in Ron Paul.

[michaelwise]

This time around, voting for the lesser of two evils is not an option for me.
This time it is a matter of principle.
This is our last chance to make things right.
I will only do a write in and not give my vote to any other candidate.

[bolidew]

Useless poll.

Don't respond!

[Steve4RP]

Write-in Ron Paul. I will no longer lower my beliefs, standards, and expectations and settle on a self serving politician.

[mfoley1]

threads/polls like this are the total opposite of what the grassroots and these forums are about. kill it please & im sorry i even responded to this crap.

[10thAmendmentMan]

Second choice: Hillary. If there's anyone who can educate the US on the dangers of a powerful federal government, it's her.

[mport1]

Second choice: Wayne Allyn Root

[DaronWestbrooke]

Why only Republicans with just one generic Democratic line? Don't discount how many of us are fed up with our side caving in to chimpy's war.

[european]

2nd choice: the people of america (specially those who are in this forum)! :D

[scubasteve01]

Who the hell put Rudy??

[Danny Molina]

What the hell is wrong with you sellouts!!!???

Rudy Giuliani 1 0.65%
Fred Thompson 8 5.19%
Mike Huckabee 4 2.60%
Tom Tancredo 8 5.19%
Duncan Hunter 0 0%
John McCain 1 0.65%
Mitt Romney 4 2.60%

[european]

What the hell is wrong with you sellouts!!!???

Rudy Giuliani 1 0.65%
Fred Thompson 8 5.19%
Mike Huckabee 4 2.60%
Tom Tancredo 8 5.19%
Duncan Hunter 0 0%
John McCain 1 0.65%
Mitt Romney 4 2.60%

well some people do have a 2nd choice, and those people are very important aswel. they shouldn't be treated as sellouts, specially if you back this campaign i feel that it is best to tollerate and also accept/embrace those who have different opinions. not everyone is 100%-hardcore, and to win you need also those who do have a 2nd choice. to be honest, we should be very happy that these people are here with us on board. it means that we got voters who otherwise had gone to those other candidates :cool:

[Jobarra]

Can't vote in the poll. You did not seperate None and Write In. There is a BIG difference, especially if the media glances at the poll. They would report it as "1000 out of 3000 Ron Paul supporters would not vote if Ron Paul is not on the ballot".

That said, I would write in Ron Paul even if there wasn't an option for it on the ballot. That little protest would actually be noticed as opposed to one where you can write it in and they don't count it. "Sir, you can't vote that way." "Excuse me? This is America, I'll vote any damn way I want even if you don't want to count that vote"

[KewlRonduderules]

What the hell is wrong with you sellouts!!!???

Rudy Giuliani 1 0.65%
Fred Thompson 8 5.19%
Mike Huckabee 4 2.60%
Tom Tancredo 8 5.19%
Duncan Hunter 0 0%
John McCain 1 0.65%
Mitt Romney 4 2.60%

political operatives from other camps.

:p

[1town]

None of the above or Libertarian Party

[FreedomLover]

Why only Republicans with just one generic Democratic line? Don't discount how many of us are fed up with our side caving in to chimpy's war.

Ron Paul is a republican running in a republican primary. It makes since to put emphasis on the republican candidates.

[akovacs]

I am working so hard because there's no other candidate that comes even remotely close. It's RP or a protest vote for the LP or write-in. This do or die for me.

[garrettwombat]

ron paul supporters are not voting for ANYONE else... and dont let the media or the republican party think you are... if they think any ron paul supporters will continue to support the republican party if ron paul isnt elected they may come around and realize there is no chance for them to win unless it is ron paul....


also, i would NEVER vote for anyone else. iv never voted in the past and will likely never vote in the future unless someone exactly like paul comes back.

all the other candidates are CFR members, socialists, noecons... and if ANY of you support ANYONE else, it will be a sad day... F the republican party, they have abandoned us and have been hijacked by neocons... if you want to take it back you have to get paul elected... in fact... if you dont get ron paul elected we wont even have a united states in another 50 years, or a constitution...

[hopeforamerica]

Write in only. I think anyone who voted differently doesn't really understand all of the issues we are facing, and why Ron Paul in the ONLY one that can help our country.

[Oddball]

None.

If Dr. Paul doesn't get the nomination, I'll revert to voting Libertarian.

[TheConstitutionLives]

What???? You do NOT have a 2nd option within the Republican or Democratic parties. Period.

[ClayTrainor]

What???? You do NOT have a 2nd option within the Republican or Democratic parties. Period.

period!

no one is even coming close to following the constiution.

I am not an american, but if i were, i'd likely emmigrate if paul doesnt get the nomination.. no offense, but i cant stand the oppressive neo-cons, and neo-libs

ron paul is the only one worth voting for.

[huchahucha]

If Oklahomans could write in, I would do that. Sadly, our presidential ballots lack that option, and have only the Democrat and Republican options, and I am unsure what I would pick.

I live in Oklahoma and feel your pain. The answer is to show up to vote, but leave the Presidential portion of your ballot blank. If Ron Paul does not make it past the primaries I will start urging people in my local area not to vote for President.

[JTCoyoté]

Write in... Dr Ron Paul!!!! Most ballots have a place for it... if not... Make A Place!

--Oldyoti

"Capitalism should not be condemned,
since we haven't had capitalism." ~Ron Paul

[huchahucha]

Write in... Dr Ron Paul!!!! Most ballots have a place for it... if not... Make A Place!

That isn't an option in Oklahoma. If there are any stray marks on your ballot outside of the assigned spots for the given candidates, your ballot goes straight in the garbage. If you leave your ballot blank, you will at least show up statistically, but they will probably count you as undecided. Still, that is better than nothing. It isn't like anyone could look at both Presidential options and say "Wow! These two candidates were just so good that this guy couldn't decide on one".

[davidkachel]

If RP is not the Republican nominee it will be my personal goal to make sure the treasonous Republican party is torn to bits. It's Ron Paul or nothing.
I suggest everyone take the same attitude... either it is RP or we will do our utmost to damage the Republican party beyond repair.

[fletcher]

The media has been curious. Let's see where the people stand.

Who would you vote for if, God forbid, Ron Paul doesn't make it on the ballots.

We had that poll yesterday:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=43924

Write in overwhelmingly won. This poll doesn't make much sense because only one of the Republicans will be on the ballot.

[RevolutionSD]

If RP is not the Republican nominee it will be my personal goal to make sure the treasonous Republican party is torn to bits. It's Ron Paul or nothing.
I suggest everyone take the same attitude... either it is RP or we will do our utmost to damage the Republican party beyond repair.

I think this will happen.
If RP doesn't win, but gets say 12-15% of the vote, we can destroy the GOP by a RP independent or 3rd party run. This completely weakens the GOP to the point where they cannot beat the democrat nominee without our support. You will then see the neocons telling us that by going 3rd party we are assuring a Hillary victory, blah blah blah.

[RedLightning]

Put write in on the poll, but id do that or vote libertarian.

[davidkachel]

If Oklahomans could write in, I would do that. Sadly, our presidential ballots lack that option, and have only the Democrat and Republican options, and I am unsure what I would pick.

Then your best option would be to do the most damage possible. You'd have to vote for (I'm gonna be sick) Hillary!
(That or write RP on the ballot and then sue the State to force them to count your vote.)

[RonPaulFever]

Haha....what joker picked Giuliani? :D

[bgoldwater]

If its Hillary v. Huckabee, than the libertarian movement is over in the GOP. I'll write in Jefferson

[BiPolarBear]

Well, this is sure to get me on some kind of watch-list :rolleyes:, but (Source: Corrosion Of Conformity, Song: Vote With A Bullet) (http://www.lyricsdepot.com/corrosion-of-conformity/vote-with-a-bullet.html):


The number in nations
The god in their hearts
The justice in swine
The devil in God

VOTE

This long hand that breaks our backs
Still casting shadows on all that we see
Unjustified...mercy killing is just a feeling
To keep our numbers from being free

(Chorus)
Prison for praise is not worth thinking
Sin is still in and our ballots are shrinking
So unleash the dogs - the only solution
Forgive and forget, fuck no
I'm talking about a revolution

The prophet man's got a needle in his hand
Draws his dreams from your soul - bleeding
minds into sand
The year of the fear has arrived decades too late
And our right to stand and fight is now
solely sealed in fate

(Repeat first chorus)

One last chance mission with a vision
'cos our lives are just cards i their stack
Our time is short but theirs is shorter
How much longer can they hold us back

(Chorus)
Prison for praise - the obvious answer
Once had power mad - living disaster
Don't fuck with me 'cos I'm on a freedom train
That bears no name - this time
I'm voting with a bullet

This view they once knew made our nooses too tight
This justice in swine
This devil in god

So God bless my soul - I've got total control
And the crosshairs lined up dead in my sight

I'm voting with a bullet

[davidkachel]

If Ron Paul does not make it past the primaries I will start urging people in my local area not to vote for President.

You cannot not vote. If you do and the Republicans lose they'll think they simply lost.
We have to make the Republicans remember for a hundred years that because they did not nominate Ron Paul, we Ron Paul supporters TOOK THE ELECTION AWAY FROM THEM BY FORCE.
This is a war guys and if we don't draw blood, there is no point.

[FreeTraveler]

First Choice: Paul & Palin
Second Choice: Smith & Wesson
:D

[Bestboss]

Well, at least you all understand what's at stake. For me, there will be no one else. No more voting for the lesser of two evils. No more voting for the favored (by the media) candidates.
If he wins, we will still have a lot of work to do.
If he loses, it will be harder, but the movement is growing.
The vote - It's Ron Paul or not at all!

[davidkachel]

First Choice: Paul & Palin
Second Choice: Smith & Wesson
:D

A word to the wise... think it, but don't say it. The walls have ears.

[francisco]

If Ron Paul is not on the ballot I will write him in.

Maybe this poll should have "Write-in for Ron Paul" and "write-in for someone other than Ron Paul" as separate choices.

[huchahucha]

You cannot not vote. If you do and the Republicans lose they'll think they simply lost.
We have to make the Republicans remember for a hundred years that because they did not nominate Ron Paul, we Ron Paul supporters TOOK THE ELECTION AWAY FROM THEM BY FORCE.
This is a war guys and if we don't draw blood, there is no point.


In case you haven't noticed, the Republicans and Democrats are basically the same team. If you want to draw blood then we the people collectively need to stop playing their games, where the rules are stacked in their favor.

[Aballistar]

I will write him in.

[BlutStein]

My vote is Ron Paul. There is no other person to vote for. I hope he goes all the way to the white house, but it'd would be interesting if by the time the vote came up, if he wasn't still in the race, just how many votes he'd still get.

[francisco]

Another option would be to accept RP as Vice Presiential nominee under Huckabee, then make sure once they are in office that Mike gets all the cheeseburgers he wants, free.

[saahmed]

I'll be voting for Ron Paul somehow regardless of what happens.

[Hurricane Bruiser]

Well I am not sure. I plan on being a delegate to the WV convention and I will have to decide what my contigency plans are if we can't get Ron Paul in 1st place. Who do I most dislike and who would be the best to vote for to block my least favorite? I have not yet decided.

As for the general election, I'll either write in Ron Paul, vote Libertarian, or... Oh I'm just not sure yet. My vote that has always gone Republican will most likely go somewhere else. The only other Republican running right now that I might consider would be Thompson (snooze) but I really think I'm disgusted enough that I will vote LP. The Republican party has completely abandoned constitutional government and civil liberties (except 2nd A.) and the democrats are no better.

[davidkachel]

In case you haven't noticed, the Republicans and Democrats are basically the same team. If you want to draw blood then we the people collectively need to stop playing their games, where the rules are stacked in their favor.

They are not basically the same team. They ARE the same team. The Democrats want our liberty in the name of protecting us from each other. The Republicans want it in the name of protecting us from Arabs living in caves. In both cases what they really want is just our liberty. They have no intention of giving us anything in return for it.

Look at it this way: (In all cases start with the premise that RP is not the Republican candidate and that we therefore want to maximize the damage we do. Also start with the assumption that both R and D candidates have 3 votes each.)

1. If you don't vote, net damage is zero. They both still have 3 votes.

2. If you vote for the Republican, you have helped to bolster the Repub delusion that they are right and given them a 1 vote lead. Not only is there no damage, you've actually helped the enemy (the enemy being neocons pretending to be Republicans).

3. If you vote for a 3rd party, the 3 to 3 tie remains and since we know the elections are rigged to always exclude 3rd parties, you've done no damage.

4. If you can keep from vomiting and vote for the Democratic candidate, you have changed the score to 4:3 and have done actual damage. Of course this damage means nothing if you don't tell the Republican party what you did and why, but that is easy enough to do.

5. You write in Ron Paul. The Ds and Rs are still tied 3:3. No damage, but at least a loud message sent.

6. The only other option; if RP should somehow end up as a 3rd party candidate (NO I AM NOT SUGGESTING THIS), a RP vote would damage both parties, but mostly the Republicans, cost them the election and send a very clear message.

Not voting or voting 3rd party doesn't hurt anyone. Voting Republican hurts the Democrats. Our message to the Republican party has got to be "We get our liberty back or you cease to exist." And we ought to start delivering this message now instead of waiting till after the primaries.

[fireinme]

This forum is a goldmine for our enemies

[Elwar]

I will write in Ron Paul's name even if it means writing his name on the touch screen with a marker and then clicking on that name.

[davidkachel]

This forum is a goldmine for our enemies

Screw 'em.
I want my freedom back and I don't give a shit what it costs and I don't care who knows it.

[Air420]

Dennis Kucinich

[FreeTraveler]

A word to the wise... think it, but don't say it. The walls have ears.

Note the :D

[Hurricane Bruiser]

Voting Republican hurts the Democrats. Our message to the Republican party has got to be "We get our liberty back or you cease to exist." And we ought to start delivering this message now instead of waiting till after the primaries.

I do think we need to have some type of plan that will maximize liberty in this country. It's tough to decide how best to do that if Ron Paul doesn't win. We draw from Dems, Repubs, Ind, Libertarian Party, and Constitution Party. I see change within the GOP as a good goal but I don't see the GOP actually changing anything. They might talk a little different, but can you really see the GOP legalizing drugs at the federal level, getting rid of federal censorship of media, rolling back the Patriot Act, or actually cutting anything? I honestly can't see it.

For now I'm focused on Ron Paul winning as that is the best hope we have.

[greensheen]

My second choice after Ron Paul??

HEAD FOR THE HILLS!

[Austin]

Who the heck chose Giuliani as their second choice? I don't see how that is possible.

[DeepBlu]

Bill Richardson.

[davidkachel]

I do think we need to have some type of plan that will maximize liberty in this country. It's tough to decide how best to do that if Ron Paul doesn't win. We draw from Dems, Repubs, Ind, Libertarian Party, and Constitution Party. I see change within the GOP as a good goal but I don't see the GOP actually changing anything. They might talk a little different, but can you really see the GOP legalizing drugs at the federal level, getting rid of federal censorship of media, rolling back the Patriot Act, or actually cutting anything? I honestly can't see it.

This war has two fronts. They are called Democrats and Republicans.
We can't do any damage to the Democrats right now. They are too strong.
The GOP is never going to change anything because it is under the control of pirates, otherwise known as neocons.

If we want our freedom back we have to TAKE it back. Neither the Dems or the Reps will ever "give" it back. This means we have to do some damage. A lot of damage. And the only target we have right now is the Republicans.

We can go after Hillary and crowd later.

[dwdollar]

The communist liberals and fascist neocons can lurk on this thread all they want. We want this country to be the way it is suppose to be, they way it was written, and the way people fight and died for. We are not the crazy ones for believing that. They are the crazy ones for wanting to take that away from us. It's their choice how ugly they want to make this struggle.

[AlexMerced]

yep, same here, it's Ron Paul all the way, if no one else comes along with the same priciples I'll be writing in Ron Paul till the day I die.

[Maltheus]

You left out a few of choices in your poll:

Belize
Costa Rica
Estonia
New Hampshire (Free State Project)