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Anti Federalist
03-07-2014, 12:50 AM
Sounds like a summary for Contempt of Cop.


Bourbon police officer shoots, kills man after pursuit into Crawford County

http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/crime-and-courts/bourbon-police-officer-shoots-kills-bourbon-man-after-pursuit-into/article_b56a7324-2a9e-5690-ba76-c16474c0507e.html

CRAWFORD COUNTY • A Bourbon police officer shot and killed a man Wednesday morning after he eluded police during a pursuit, according to authorities.

The incident happened at about 10:30 a.m. Wednesday in Crawford County. Gary E. Wenzel, 50, was killed.

The Missouri Highway Patrol said a Bourbon police officer tried to stop a black Chevrolet Cavalier in Bourbon after recognizing it as a vehicle that had eluded police in Sullivan during a pursuit. The vehicle did not stop, and the pursuit continued north from Bourbon and into Gasconade County, and then south back into Crawford County.

The pursuit ended at Route J and Fann Road, where the Cavalier crashed and the officer shot Wenzel.

The officer was not hurt. The investigation is continuing.

In a press release, the Missouri Highway Patrol did not say why Wenzel was being pursued in the first place, nor did it give details as to what prompted the shooting. The patrol referred questions about what prompted the chase to Sullivan police, who could not be reached for comment. The Sullivan police chief did not return a phone call seeking comment Thursday morning.

Wenzel's criminal past includes convictions for a drug charge and property damage, which happened in 2001 and 2002. He was released from prison on those charges in 2012 and his most recent charge was a 2013 misdemeanor for littering.

Wenzel's daughter, Annie Alley of St. Clair, Mo., accused police of murdering her father. She is demanding to see video from the police car's dashboard camera that would show how the shooting unfolded.

"My father was an unarmed man," Alley said. "He was shot multiple times in cold blood. We have laws in Missouri that protect animals better than my father was protected."

Alley, the oldest of her father's five children, said he was living with her at her St. Clair home and working construction jobs to hang drywall. She said she was not allowed by police or the coroner to see her father's body Wednesday. She said the sheriff of Crawford County told her that he identified her father as the victim. Alley said she is his next of kin and should have been the one to make the identification.

Alley said her father was on parole for property damage. State Department of Corrections records also say he had an active case involving drug possession. Alley said the property damage stemmed from an incident about 13 years ago that included accusations that Wenzel tried to outrun police in Bourbon. She said Bourbon police "had it in" for her father. She said police told her that Wednesday's initial chase started because Wenzel had outstanding warrants.

Weston White
03-07-2014, 01:42 AM
Somewhere, Sotomayor is smiling so very happily:


http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/S/Sonia-Sotomayor-453906-1-402.jpg

Spikender
03-07-2014, 02:35 AM
Let's see here...

Homeowner shoots armed roober who might have shot at him first in the back and is charged with manslaughter:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?445670-NY-Man-charged-with-Manslaughter-after-shooting-armed-intruder&p=5442976#post5442976

Cop shoots man who was unarmed and won't tell anyone why the man was being chased and won't return calls and are likely going to be let off without a hitch and maybe even given a pat on the back and a possible promotion in the future of their gleaming law enforcement career.

Fuck the police.

Occam's Banana
03-07-2014, 02:46 AM
She said Bourbon police "had it in" for her father.

Not any more, they don't - though I'm sure they'll be happy to make it a "family tradition" if this guy's uppity daughter keeps pushing the matter ...

Mani
03-07-2014, 04:02 AM
Wait...They want to paint this guy as a criminal on a wild chase that needed to be gunned down and all they could come up with is a drug charge (could be MJ for cripes sake), property damage??? Sounds real hardcore...And all from over a decade ago???

Except his recent criminal behavior...LITTERING!!! :eek: Gun that motherfucker down! TAKE HIM OUT!! Mo'Fo' littered!?! Society needs to be rid of this guy.

How pathetic is it when they try to make the victim some kind of evil menace to society and the only recent thing on his rap sheet is...littering.



Wenzel's criminal past includes convictions for a drug charge and property damage, which happened in 2001 and 2002. He was released from prison on those charges in 2012 and his most recent charge was a 2013 misdemeanor for littering.

WM_in_MO
03-07-2014, 06:37 AM
The pursuit ended at Route J and Fann Road, where the Cavalier crashed and the officer shot Wenzel.
The officer was not hurt.

Thank goodness

WM_in_MO
03-07-2014, 06:44 AM
FUCK THE LAW AND ORDER CROWD

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phill4paul
03-07-2014, 06:51 AM
Aaaaand...nothing will come of this. Nothing.

Spikender
03-07-2014, 06:56 AM
FUCK THE LAW AND ORDER CROWD

Couldn't have said it better myself. Fuck those bootlickers. Wait until it's their turn, I'd be interested in knowing what they think of the police once they're laying in a pool of their own blood gasping in their last few breaths of air they'll ever breathe.


[SIZE=5]FUCK THE LAW AND ORDER CROWD

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This makes my skin crawl.

osan
03-07-2014, 06:58 AM
Sounds like a summary for Contempt of Cop.

Officer safety. That's all you need know.

You're just against society.


The officer was not hurt. The investigation is continuing.

Oh, thank God!

I was about ready for tears, I was so upset. I'm sure this good, good, officer has his reasons for shooting that nasty man down, armed or not.


Wenzel's daughter, Annie Alley of St. Clair, Mo., accused police of murdering her father. She is demanding to see video from the police car's dashboard camera that would show how the shooting unfolded.

"My father was an unarmed man," Alley said. "He was shot multiple times in cold blood. We have laws in Missouri that protect animals better than my father was protected."


She's just against society, too.

What is it with you people?

I bet you're both black.

Malcontents. Ingrates. Don't you realize that the police are there to protect us from harm?

Seriously, what's wrong with people like you?




State Department of Corrections records also say he had an active case involving drug possession. Alley said the property damage stemmed from an incident about 13 years ago that included accusations that Wenzel tried to outrun police in Bourbon. She said Bourbon police "had it in" for her father. She said police told her that Wednesday's initial chase started because Wenzel had outstanding warrants.

See? He was a con. WAS. Ha ha ha... I hope he burns in hell and I hope you all die because you're against society.

Need I explain more?

tod evans
03-07-2014, 07:01 AM
That twit alleges that cops are capable of earning higher salaries.......

Prove it I say!

These tax-ticks are incapable of earning a living in the private sector where they'd get paid on what they produce...

All government employees are highfalutin' welfare recipients, nothing more!

Mini-Me
03-07-2014, 09:26 AM
FUCK THE LAW AND ORDER CROWD

http://puu.sh/7m9Xo.png

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-27816-fuck-you-fuck-you-and-fuck-you-y7PC.gif

Peace officers have absolute license and immunity, and if an undecorated citizen runs from them for any reason, they must be guilty of something. If they must be guilty of something and run, running constitutes a crime itself, and the appropriate sentence is on-site execution at the officer's sole discretion. This is necessary for officers to keep the streets safe from unpredictable scumbags who might be in possession of drugs again or escaping the scene of a property damage incident once more. It is impertinent, ungrateful, and insolent to demand an investigation or video recording, because the officer is always justified no matter what. Instead, the correct response to whining sissies is maniacal laughter followed by more than one exclamation point, in accordance with sound mental health and Strunk and White guidelines.

All fatal incidents will be followed by a sound, trustworthy internal investigation by the officer's similarly trained colleagues or an Internal Affairs department committed to their mission of protecting the department's reputation above all else. In the event the investigation finds no reasonable conclusion but first degree murder, the deceased continues to bear the full burden of responsibility, because running alone once again justifies absolute license on the officer's part. Anything less would be anarchy. Press releases following the investigation should include reassuring phrases like "followed established procedure" and "qualified immunity," and the department should appropriately discipline officers involved in deadly infractions with a paid vacation. In the event unfortunate and excessive public knowledge of an incident forces prosecution and conviction followed by a shorter than average sentence, the public must be reminded that "bad apples" and "isolated incidents" are rare. To that end, collecting and publishing statistics on fatal incidents involving police is unnecessary and discouraged, and no effort should or will be made toward that end.

Mundane citizens should be reminded it is worthwhile and necessary for Officer Friendly to escalate a case of "must have done something wrong" to a high-speed pursuit and shooting, because immediate and complete obsequious compliance to authority is mandatory for all Mundanes in a free country, in accordance with its Founding Enlightenment principles. After all, there may be no later opportunity to remove such dangerous filth from our streets. High-speed chases additionally have an impeccable history of complete safety for the bystanders under the officer's protection, so questions of scale and proportionality are moot. The larger concerns of civil liberties advocacy groups are also unfounded, because there is no possibility this could ever lead to psychopaths joining the force for all the wrong reasons. It is pure ludicrous fantasy to imagine let alone suggest such a thing has already happened. Judge Dredd IS the law.

_______

Is that about right? I wish I could post that on Sean MC Johnson's Facebook, but the potential downsides seem...unappealing. I can't wait until that man finds himself on the wrong side of a slave patrol officer. I understand from his writing that he's mentally handicapped, but he still needs to learn for the sake of everyone around him.

WM_in_MO
03-07-2014, 09:49 AM
Judge Dredd is a porno film to these people...

mrsat_98
03-07-2014, 09:55 AM
Aaaaand...nothing will come of this. Nothing.

A shit won't even be given.

Mini-Me
03-07-2014, 09:56 AM
Judge Dredd is a porno film to these people...

I actually love the new Dredd movie, to be honest. It's fascinating, because Judge Dredd himself is technically an "honest" authoritarian, and you have no choice but to root for him against the even worse tyrant he fights...yet it's clear that many (most?) other judges are just criminals with a license, and the entire hellish and hyperviolent setting is the logical conclusion of the War on Drugs if it's allowed to continue. The movie has so much to say, yet ALL of this would completely fly over Sean MC Johnson's head, and it would indeed be just a porno film to him.

HOLLYWOOD
03-07-2014, 10:01 AM
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Occam's Banana
03-07-2014, 10:13 AM
I actually love the new Dredd movie, to be honest. It's fascinating, because Judge Dredd himself is technically an "honest" authoritarian, and you have no choice but to root for him against the even worse tyrant he fights [...]

He also has stringently high standards - 99% probability of guilt isn't good enough ...
If you're gonna have authoritarians, (Karl Urban's) Judge Dredd is the kind you want.

WM_in_MO
03-07-2014, 03:27 PM
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Danke
03-07-2014, 03:31 PM
He did this to himself.

Danke
03-07-2014, 03:34 PM
A few years ago we had a teenager in the Twin Cities drop his bike and start to run after seeing a cop car.

The pig did foot chase and ended up killing him.

Pig got off.

Philhelm
03-07-2014, 03:45 PM
The Missouri Highway Patrol said a Bourbon police officer tried to stop a black Chevrolet Cavalier in Bourbon after recognizing it as a vehicle that had eluded police in Sullivan during a pursuit.

Maybe they thought it was Christopher Dorner?

Philhelm
03-07-2014, 03:54 PM
I actually love the new Dredd movie, to be honest. It's fascinating, because Judge Dredd himself is technically an "honest" authoritarian, and you have no choice but to root for him against the even worse tyrant he fights...yet it's clear that many (most?) other judges are just criminals with a license, and the entire hellish and hyperviolent setting is the logical conclusion of the War on Drugs if it's allowed to continue. The movie has so much to say, yet ALL of this would completely fly over Sean MC Johnson's head, and it would indeed be just a porno film to him.

There's the problem - most involved in law enforcement and justice are actually quite unjust and corrupt.

That's why, somewhat ironically, I can love a fictional, authoritarian character like Stannis Baratheon. He's a super lawful neutral, somewhat ruthless authoritarian, but he isn't going to come shoot your dog, kick down your daughter's lemonade stand, or imprison your grandmother for possessing medication not prescribed to her.

For fuck's sake, even the Imperial Stormtroopers from Star Wars were less brutal than our police, and they were made out to be overtly evil.

CCTelander
03-07-2014, 04:01 PM
FUCK THE LAW AND ORDER CROWD

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http://img.pandawhale.com/post-27816-fuck-you-fuck-you-and-fuck-you-y7PC.gif


L. Neil Smith has a term he coined to describe those "law and order types." He cslls them "copsuckers." Seems appropriate to me.

Danke
03-07-2014, 04:12 PM
FUCK THE LAW AND ORDER CROWD

http://puu.sh/7m9Xo.png

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-27816-fuck-you-fuck-you-and-fuck-you-y7PC.gif

I bet if the Jews in Germany would have just submitted to the police and not tried to run away, their fate would have been better...

Dr.3D
03-07-2014, 04:46 PM
Seems like cops are much like dogs. If you run from them, they get excited and do something they normally wouldn't do.

Of course, maybe the cop was upset the guy made him get out of breath so he killed him.

Cissy
03-07-2014, 06:47 PM
Seems like cops are much like dogs. If you run from them, they get excited and do something they normally wouldn't do.

Of course, maybe the cop was upset the guy made him get out of breath so he killed him.

Say rather a cheetah or a wolf, when they catch their quarry, they'll attempt to go for the kill.

Anti Federalist
03-07-2014, 07:15 PM
L. Neil Smith has a term he coined to describe those "law and order types." He cslls them "copsuckers." Seems appropriate to me.

Copsuckers.

That is perfect.

WM_in_MO
03-08-2014, 09:54 AM
\\\\ for the weekenders