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Pericles
03-02-2014, 08:45 PM
The Unanimous Declaration of Independence
made by the Delegates of the People of Texas
in General Convention at the town of Washington
on the 2nd day of March 1836.
When a government has ceased to protect the lives, liberty and property of the people, from whom its legitimate powers are derived, and for the advancement of whose happiness it was instituted, and so far from being a guarantee for the enjoyment of those inestimable and inalienable rights, becomes an instrument in the hands of evil rulers for their oppression.
When the Federal Republican Constitution of their country, which they have sworn to support, no longer has a substantial existence, and the whole nature of their government has been forcibly changed, without their consent, from a restricted federative republic, composed of sovereign states, to a consolidated central military despotism, in which every interest is disregarded but that of the army and the priesthood, both the eternal enemies of civil liberty, the everready minions of power, and the usual instruments of tyrants.
When, long after the spirit of the constitution has departed, moderation is at length so far lost by those in power, that even the semblance of freedom is removed, and the forms themselves of the constitution discontinued, and so far from their petitions and remonstrances being regarded, the agents who bear them are thrown into dungeons, and mercenary armies sent forth to force a new government upon them at the point of the bayonet.
When, in consequence of such acts of malfeasance and abdication on the part of the government, anarchy prevails, and civil society is dissolved into its original elements. In such a crisis, the first law of nature, the right of self-preservation, the inherent and inalienable rights of the people to appeal to first principles, and take their political affairs into their own hands in extreme cases, enjoins it as a right towards themselves, and a sacred obligation to their posterity, to abolish such government, and create another in its stead, calculated to rescue them from impending dangers, and to secure their future welfare and happiness.
Nations, as well as individuals, are amenable for their acts to the public opinion of mankind. A statement of a part of our grievances is therefore submitted to an impartial world, in justification of the hazardous but unavoidable step now taken, of severing our political connection with the Mexican people, and assuming an independent attitude among the nations of the earth.
The Mexican government, by its colonization laws, invited and induced the Anglo-American population of Texas to colonize its wilderness under the pledged faith of a written constitution, that they should continue to enjoy that constitutional liberty and republican government to which they had been habituated in the land of their birth, the United States of America.
In this expectation they have been cruelly disappointed, inasmuch as the Mexican nation has acquiesced in the late changes made in the government by General Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, who having overturned the constitution of his country, now offers us the cruel alternative, either to abandon our homes, acquired by so many privations, or submit to the most intolerable of all tyranny, the combined despotism of the sword and the priesthood.
It has sacrificed our welfare to the state of Coahuila, by which our interests have been continually depressed through a jealous and partial course of legislation, carried on at a far distant seat of government, by a hostile majority, in an unknown tongue, and this too, notwithstanding we have petitioned in the humblest terms for the establishment of a separate state government, and have, in accordance with the provisions of the national constitution, presented to the general Congress a republican constitution, which was, without just cause, contemptuously rejected.
It incarcerated in a dungeon, for a long time, one of our citizens, for no other cause but a zealous endeavor to procure the acceptance of our constitution, and the establishment of a state government.
It has failed and refused to secure, on a firm basis, the right of trial by jury, that palladium of civil liberty, and only safe guarantee for the life, liberty, and property of the citizen.
It has failed to establish any public system of education, although possessed of almost boundless resources, (the public domain,) and although it is an axiom in political science, that unless a people are educated and enlightened, it is idle to expect the continuance of civil liberty, or the capacity for self government.
It has suffered the military commandants, stationed among us, to exercise arbitrary acts of oppression and tyrrany, thus trampling upon the most sacred rights of the citizens, and rendering the military superior to the civil power.
It has dissolved, by force of arms, the state Congress of Coahuila and Texas, and obliged our representatives to fly for their lives from the seat of government, thus depriving us of the fundamental political right of representation.
It has demanded the surrender of a number of our citizens, and ordered military detachments to seize and carry them into the Interior for trial, in contempt of the civil authorities, and in defiance of the laws and the constitution.
It has made piratical attacks upon our commerce, by commissioning foreign desperadoes, and authorizing them to seize our vessels, and convey the property of our citizens to far distant ports for confiscation.
It denies us the right of worshipping the Almighty according to the dictates of our own conscience, by the support of a national religion, calculated to promote the temporal interest of its human functionaries, rather than the glory of the true and living God.
It has demanded us to deliver up our arms, which are essential to our defence, the rightful property of freemen, and formidable only to tyrannical governments.
It has invaded our country both by sea and by land, with intent to lay waste our territory, and drive us from our homes; and has now a large mercenary army advancing, to carry on against us a war of extermination.
It has, through its emissaries, incited the merciless savage, with the tomahawk and scalping knife, to massacre the inhabitants of our defenseless frontiers.
It hath been, during the whole time of our connection with it, the contemptible sport and victim of successive military revolutions, and hath continually exhibited every characteristic of a weak, corrupt, and tyrranical government.
These, and other grievances, were patiently borne by the people of Texas, untill they reached that point at which forbearance ceases to be a virtue. We then took up arms in defence of the national constitution. We appealed to our Mexican brethren for assistance. Our appeal has been made in vain. Though months have elapsed, no sympathetic response has yet been heard from the Interior. We are, therefore, forced to the melancholy conclusion, that the Mexican people have acquiesced in the destruction of their liberty, and the substitution therfor of a military government; that they are unfit to be free, and incapable of self government.
The necessity of self-preservation, therefore, now decrees our eternal political separation.
We, therefore, the delegates with plenary powers of the people of Texas, in solemn convention assembled, appealing to a candid world for the necessities of our condition, do hereby resolve and declare, that our political connection with the Mexican nation has forever ended, and that the people of Texas do now constitute a free, Sovereign, and independent republic, and are fully invested with all the rights and attributes which properly belong to independent nations; and, conscious of the rectitude of our intentions, we fearlessly and confidently commit the issue to the decision of the Supreme arbiter of the destinies of nations.
Richard Ellis, President
of the Convention and Delegate
from Red River.
Charles B. Stewart
Tho. Barnett
John S. D. Byrom
Francis Ruis
J. Antonio Navarro (http://www.lsjunction.com/people/navarro.htm)
Jesse B. Badgett
Wm D. Lacy
William Menifee
Jn. Fisher
Matthew Caldwell
William Motley
Lorenzo de Zavala (http://www.lsjunction.com/people/zavala.htm)
Stephen H. Everett
George W. Smyth
Elijah Stapp
Claiborne West
Wm. B. Scates
M. B. Menard
A. B. Hardin
J. W. Burton
Thos. J. Gazley
R. M. Coleman
Sterling C. Robertson (http://www.lsjunction.com/people/robrtsn2.htm)
James Collinsworth
Edwin Waller
Asa Brigham
Geo. C. Childress
Bailey Hardeman
Rob. Potter
Thomas Jefferson Rusk (http://www.lsjunction.com/people/rusk.htm)
Chas. S. Taylor
John S. Roberts
Robert Hamilton
Collin McKinney
Albert H. Latimer
James Power
Sam Houston (http://www.lsjunction.com/people/houston.htm)
David Thomas
Edwd. Conrad
Martin Parmer
Edwin O. Legrand
Stephen W. Blount
Jms. Gaines
Wm. Clark, Jr.
Sydney O. Pennington
Wm. Carrol Crawford
Jno. Turner
Benj. Briggs Goodrich
G. W. Barnett
James G. Swisher
Jesse Grimes
S. Rhoads Fisher
John W. Moore
John W. Bower
Saml. A. Maverick (from Bejar)
Sam P. Carson
A. Briscoe
J. B. Woods
H. S. Kimble, Secretary
Meanwhile in San Antone...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgOEhFEaJB0
Pericles
03-03-2014, 12:54 PM
Commandancy of the Alamo
Bejar, Feby. 24, 1836 To the People of Texas & All Americans in the World
Fellow citizens & compatriots
I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna I have sustained a continual Bombardment & cannonade for 24 hours & have not lost a man The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, & our flag still waves proudly from the walls I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism & everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily & will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible & die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor & that of his country VICTORY OR DEATH.
William Barret Travis,
Lt. Col. comdt.
P.S. The Lord is on our side. When the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn. We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels and got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves. Travis
Schifference
03-03-2014, 01:01 PM
I have trouble understanding Texas. Often times it is described as a hopeful place for liberty but that is countered by all the abuse that occurs there.
eduardo89
03-03-2014, 01:31 PM
This should be in the Liberty History sub-forum (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?344-Liberty-History), not in general politics.
Mini-Me
03-03-2014, 02:00 PM
As far as this thread goes: Stop getting my hopes up. :mad:
I have trouble understanding Texas. Often times it is described as a hopeful place for liberty but that is countered by all the abuse that occurs there.
When it comes down to it, most of the conservatives who love their guns and dislike Washington still love themselves some jackboots, because they're older baby boomer types who tend to have a naive trust in the goodness of law-and-order authority figures and demand "respect" for them. Hopefully that will change with the demographics. That's the good part about the Republican Party and many states where they're strong: Whereas the Democrats have diverse demographcs, the GOP old guard's demographics are so concentrated and aging that younger activists will simply outlive them, barring a libertarian holocaust. Younger activists are primarily split into two camps: Progressives and partisan Democrats, and libertarians and libertarian-leaning conservatives...and the latter will pretty much replace the authoritarian conservative types wholesale as time goes on.
William Tell
03-03-2014, 02:32 PM
When it comes down to it, most of the conservatives who love their guns and dislike Washington still love themselves some jackboots, because they're older baby boomer types who tend to have a naive trust in the goodness of law-and-order authority figures and demand "respect" for them.
No, just because we have corrupt and evil people in our governments, does not mean we like them. But sure, we do have neocons here, just like in any other state.
Mini-Me
03-03-2014, 03:25 PM
No, just because we have corrupt and evil people in our governments, does not mean we like them. But sure, we do have neocons here, just like in any other state.
I wasn't talking about you. :p From all the mainstream conservatives I know personally and have seen online (even the Tea Party types), there's a deep undercurrent of "respect for authority" that still permeates their thoughts on cops, and there's a strong reluctance to believe that pathological dishonesty among pillars of the community could be such an endemic problem. As a rule, cops in general get the benefit of the doubt among conservatives, which only encourages further privileges and immunities and unaccountability. The "just a few bad apples" mentality is too prevalent from what I've seen, and I've heard enough "She had it coming," "He was asking for it," "She was just being difficult," and, "But the cops said the suspect did blah blah blah BEFORE what we see in the video, and I'm going to believe them over some some scumbag" to last a lifetime.
Anti Federalist
03-03-2014, 03:31 PM
I wasn't talking about you. :p From all the mainstream conservatives I know personally and have seen online (even the Tea Party types), there's a deep undercurrent of "respect for authority" that still permeates their thoughts on cops, and there's a strong reluctance to believe that pathological dishonesty among pillars of the community could be such an endemic problem. As a rule, cops in general get the benefit of the doubt among conservatives, which only encourages further privileges and immunities and unaccountability. The "just a few bad apples" mentality is too prevalent, from what I've seen.
It was the response of the "law and order" crowd to the government murders at Waco, that broke the last ties I had to "mainstream" conservatism.
Anti Federalist
03-03-2014, 03:32 PM
This should be in the Liberty History sub-forum (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/forumdisplay.php?344-Liberty-History), not in general politics.
Ten Roger there, Dewey Decimal.
fisharmor
03-03-2014, 03:39 PM
younger activists will simply outlive them, barring a libertarian holocaust.
Well, considering we're talking about people who cheered the militarization of the police, cheer everytime they see a video of a fellow citizen getting lit up, and cheer whenever they're arrested for meaningless infractions and sent to rot in prison cells..... a libertarian holocaust isn't exactly absent from the flowchart of possibilities, particularly not in places like Texas.
Like my dad told me once, "If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd rent Texas and live in Hell."
No, just because we have corrupt and evil people in our governments, does not mean we like them.
If the person you're talking about is an employee of the state, you're really limited in the available adjectives.
1) Stupid
2) Uninformed
3) Evil
Mini-Me
03-03-2014, 03:43 PM
Well, considering we're talking about people who cheered the militarization of the police, cheer everytime they see a video of a fellow citizen getting lit up, and cheer whenever they're arrested for meaningless infractions and sent to rot in prison cells..... a libertarian holocaust isn't exactly absent from the flowchart of possibilities, particularly not in places like Texas.
Like my dad told me once, "If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd rent Texas and live in Hell."
DELIVERANCE. ;)
If the person you're talking about is an employee of the state, you're really limited in the available adjectives.
1) Stupid
2) Uninformed
3) Evil
Pretty much, but sometimes I think it's partially our unwillingness to sully ourselves that helps keep it that way, and there are exceptions: Ron Paul was one, and he did a heck of a lot more good than any of the rest of us so far.
Ronin Truth
03-03-2014, 05:42 PM
Secession anyone? Anyone?
libertariantexas
03-06-2014, 03:06 AM
Secession anyone? Anyone?
No, thanks.
Pericles
03-06-2014, 12:41 PM
The men who died on March 6, 1836 that Texas might live:
?, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/john.html)
Unknown
A Black Freedman
Unknown
Abamillo, Juan (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/abamillo.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Texas
Allen, James L. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/allen.html)
21
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Andross, Miles DeForest (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/andross.html)
27
Garrison Member
Vermont
Autry, Micajah (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/autry.html)
43
Garrison Member
North Carolina
Badillo, Juan Antonio (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/bandillo.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Texas
Bailey, Peter James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/bailey.html)
24
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Baker, Isaac G. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/baker.html)
32
Garrison Member
Arkansas
Baker, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/baker-w.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Missouri
Ballentine, John J. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/ballentine-j.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Ballentine, Richard W (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/ballentine-r.html)
22
Garrison Member
Scotland
Baugh, John J. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/baugh.html)
33
Captain
Virginia
Bayliss, Joseph (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/bayliss.html)
28
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Blair, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/blair.html)
33
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Blair, Samuel (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/blair-s.html)
29
Captain
Tennessee
Blazeby, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/blazeby.html)
41
Captain
England
Bonham, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/bonham.html)
29
Second Lieutenant
South Carolina
Bourne, Daniel (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/bourne.html)
26
Garrison Member
England
Bowie, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/bowie.html)
40
Colonel
Kentucky
Bowman, Jesse (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/bowman.html)
51
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Brown, George (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/brown-g.html)
35
Garrison Member
England
Brown, James Murry (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/brown-j.html)
36
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Brown, Robert (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/brown-r.html)
18
Garrison Member
Unknown
Buchanan, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/buchanan.html)
23
Garrison Member
Unknown
Burns, Samuel E. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/burns.html)
26
Garrison Member
Ireland
Butler, George D. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/butler.html)
23
Garrison Member
Missouri
Cain, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/cain.html)
34
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Campbell, Robert (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/campbell.html)
26
Lieutenant
Tennessee
Carey, William R. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/carey.html)
30
Captain
Virginia
Clark, Charles Henry (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/clark-c.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Missouri
Clark, M. B. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/clark-m.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Mississippi
Cloud, Daniel William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/cloud.html)
22
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Cochran, Robert E. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/cochran.html)
26
Garrison Member
New Hampshire
Cottle, George Washington (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/cottle.html)
25
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Courtman, Henry (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/courtman.html)
28
Garrison Member
Germany
Crawford, Lemuel (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/crawford.html)
22
Garrison Member
South Carolina
Crockett, David (Davy) (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/crockett.html)
50
Colonel
Tennessee
Crossman, Robert (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/crossman.html)
26
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Cummings, David P. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/cummings.html)
27
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Cunningham, Robert W. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/cunningham.html)
32
Private
New York
Darst, Jacob C. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/darst.html)
43
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Davis, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/davis.html)
25
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Day, Freeman (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/day-f.html)
30
Garrison Member
Unknown
Day, Jerry C. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/day-j.html)
18
Garrison Member
Missouri
Daymon, Squire (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/daymon.html)
28
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Dearduff, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/dearduff.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Dennison, Stephen (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/dennison.html)
24
Garrison Member
England or Ireland
Despallier, Charles (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/despallier.html)
24
Garrison Member
Louisiana
Dewall, Lewis (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/dewall.html)
24
Garrison Member
New York
Dickinson, Almaron (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/dickinson.html)
36
Captain
Pennsylvania
Dillard, John Henry (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/dillard.html)
31
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Dimpkins, James R. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/dimpkins.html)
Unknown
Sergeant
England
Duvalt, Andrew (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/duvalt.html)
32
Garrison Member
Ireland
Espalier, Carlos (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/espalier.html)
17
Garrison Member
Texas
Esparza, Gregorio (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/esparza.html)
34
Garrison Member
Texas
Evans, Robert (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/evans.html)
36
Garrison Member
Ireland
Evans, Samuel B. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/evans-s.html)
24
Garrison Member
New York
Ewing, James L. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/ewing.html)
24
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Fauntleroy, William H. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/faunterloy.html)
22
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Fishbaugh, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/fishbaugh.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Unknown
Flanders, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/flanders.html)
36
Garrison Member
Massachusetts
Floyd, Dolphin Ward (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/floyd.html)
32
Garrison Member
North Carolina
Forsyth, John Hubbard (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/forsyth.html)
38
Captain
New York
Fuentes, Antonio (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/fuentes.html)
23
Garrison Member
Texas
Fuqua, Galba (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/fuqua.html)
16
Garrison Member
Alabama
Garnett, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/garnett.html)
24
Garrison Member
Virginia
Garrand, James W. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/garrand.html)
23
Garrison Member
Louisiana
Garrett, James Girard (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/garrett.html)
30
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Garvin, John E. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/garvin.html)
27
Garrison Member
Unknown
Gaston, John E. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/gaston.html)
17
Garrison Member
Kentucky
George, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/george.html)
34
Garrison Member
Unknown
Goodrich, John C. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/goodrich.html)
27
Garrison Member
Virginia
Grimes, Albert Calvin (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/grimes.html)
19
Orderly Sergeant
Georgia
Guerrero, José María (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/guerrero.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Texas
Gwynne, James C. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/gwynne.html)
32
Garrison Member
England
Hannum, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/hannum.html)
21
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Harris, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/harris.html)
23
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Harrison, Andrew Jackson (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/harrison-a.html)
27
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Harrison, William B. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/harrison-w.html)
25
Captain
Ohio
Haskell, Charles M. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/haskell.html)
23
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Hawkins, Joseph M. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/hawkins.html)
37
Garrison Member
Ireland
Hays, John M. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/hays.html)
22
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Herndon, Patrick Henry (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/herndon.html)
32
Garrison Member
Virginia
Hersee, William Daniel (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/hersee.html)
31
Sergeant
England
Holland, Tapley (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/holland.html)
26
Garrison Member
Ohio
Holloway, Samuel (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/holloway.html)
28
Garrison Member
Philadelphia
Howell, William D. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/howell.html)
39
Garrison Member
Massachusetts
Jackson, Thomas (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/jackson.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Ireland
Jackson, William Daniel (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/jackson-w.html)
29
Lieutenant
Ireland
Jameson, Green B. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/jameson.html)
27
Lieutenant
Kentucky or Tennessee
Jennings, Gordon C. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/jennings.html)
56
Corporal
Connecticut
Jiménez, Damacio (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/jimenes.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Unknown
Johnson, Lewis (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/johnson.html)
23
Private
Virginia
Johnson, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/johnson-w.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Jones, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/jones.html)
26
Lieutenant
New York
Kellogg, John Benjamin (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/kellogg.html)
19
Lieutenant
Kentucky
Kenny, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/kenney.html)
22
Garrison Member
Virginia
Kent, Andrew (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/kent.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Kerr, Joseph (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/kerr.html)
22
Garrison Member
Louisiana
Kimbell, George C. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/kimbell.html)
33
Lieutenant
Pennsylvania
King, William Philip (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/king.html)
16
Garrison Member
Mississippi
Lewis, William Irvine (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/lewis.html)
30
Garrison Member
Virginia
Lightfoot, William John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/lightfoot.html)
31
Third Corporal
Kentucky
Lindley, Jonathan (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/lindley.html)
22
Garrison Member
Illinois
Linn, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/linn.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Massachusetts
Losoya, José Toribio (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/losoya.html)
27
Private
Texas
Main, George Washington (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/main.html)
29
Second Lieutenant
Virginia
Malone, William T. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/malone.html)
18
Garrison Member
Virginia or Alabama
Marshall, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/marshall.html)
28
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Martin, Albert (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/martin.html)
28
Garrison Member
Rhode Island
McCafferty, Edward (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mccafferty.html)
Unknown
Lieutenant
Unknown
McCoy, Jesse (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mccoy.html)
32
Garrison Member
Tennessee
McDowell, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mcdowell.html)
42
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
McGee, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mcgee.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Ireland
McGregor, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mcgregor.html)
Unknown
Second Sergeant
Scotland
McKinney, Robert (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mckinney.html)
27
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Melton, Eliel (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/melton.html)
38
Lieutenant
Georgia
Miller, Thomas Redd (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/miller.html)
31
Garrison Member
Virginia
Mills, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mills.html)
20
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Millsaps, Isaac (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/millsaps.html)
41
Private
Tennessee
Mitchasson, Edward F. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mitchasson.html)
30
Private
Virginia
Mitchell, Edwin T. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mitchell-e.html)
30
Private
Unknown
Mitchell, Napoleon B. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/mitchell-n.html)
32
Private
Tennessee
Moore, Robert B. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/moore.html)
30
Garrison Member
Virginia
Moore, Willis A. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/moore-w.html)
28
Garrison Member
North Carolina
Musselman, Robert (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/musselman.html)
31
Sergeant
Ohio
Nava, Andrés (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/nava.html)
26
Sergeant
Texas
Neggan, George (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/neggan.html)
28
Garrison Member
South Carolina
Nelson, Andrew M. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/nelson-a.html)
27
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Nelson, Edward (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/nelson-e.html)
20
Garrison Member
South Carolina
Nelson, George (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/nelson-g.html)
31
Garrison Member
South Carolina
Northcross, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/northcross.html)
32
Garrison Member
Virginia
Nowlan, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/nowlan.html)
27
Garrison Member
England or Ireland
Pagan, George (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/pagan.html)
26
Garrison Member
Unknown
Parker, Christopher Adams (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/parker.html)
22
Garrison Member
Unknown
Parks, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/parks.html)
31
Garrison Member
North Carolina
Perry, Richardson (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/perry.html)
19
Garrison Member
Texas or Mississippi
Pollard, Amos (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/pollard.html)
32
Garrison Member
Massachusetts
Reynolds, John Purdy (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/reynolds.html)
29
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Roberts, Thomas H. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/roberts.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Unknown
Robertson, James Waters (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/robertson.html)
24
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Robinson, Isaac (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/robinson.html)
28
Fourth Sergeant
Scotland
Rose, James M. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/rose.html)
31
Garrison Member
Ohio
Rusk, Jackson J. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/rusk.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Ireland
Rutherford, Joseph (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/rutherford.html)
38
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Ryan, Isaac (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/ryan.html)
31
Garrison Member
Louisiana
Scurlock, Mial (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/scurlock.html)
26
Garrison Member
North Carolina
Sewell, Marcus L. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/sewell.html)
31
Garrison Member
England
Shied, Manson (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/shied.html)
25
Garrison Member
Georgia
Simmons, Cleveland Kinloch (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/simmons.html)
20
Lieutenant
South Carolina
Smith, Andrew H. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/smith-a.html)
21
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Smith, Charles S. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/smith-c.html)
30
Garrison Member
Maryland
Smith, Joshua G. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/smith-j.html)
28
Sergeant
North Carolina
Smith, William H. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/smith-w.html)
25
Garrison Member
Unknown
Starr, Richard (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/starr.html)
25
Garrison Member
England
Stewart, James E. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/stewart.html)
28
Garrison Member
England
Stockton, Richard Lucius (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/stockton.html)
19
Garrison Member
New Jersey
Summerlin, A. Spain (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/summerlin.html)
19
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Summers, William E. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/summers.html)
24
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Sutherland, William DePriest (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/sutherland.html)
17
Garrison Member
Unknown
Taylor, Edward (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/taylor-e.html)
24
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Taylor, George (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/taylor-g.html)
20
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Taylor, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/taylor-j.html)
22
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Taylor, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/taylor-w.html)
37
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Thomas, B. Archer M. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/thomas-a.html)
18
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Thomas, Henry (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/thomas-h.html)
25
Garrison Member
Germany
Thompson, Jesse G. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/thompson-je.html)
38
Garrison Member
Arkansas
Thomson, John W. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/thompson-jo.html)
29
Garrison Member
Virginia
Thurston, John M. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/thurston.html)
23
Second Lieutenant
Pennsylvania
Trammel, Burke (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/trammel.html)
26
Garrison Member
Ireland
Travis, William Barret (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/travis.html)
26
Lieutenant Colonel
South Carolina
Tumlinson, George W. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/tumlinson.html)
22
Garrison Member
Missouri
Tylee, James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/tylee.html)
41
Garrison Member
New York
Walker, Asa (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/walker-a.html)
23
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Walker, Jacob (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/walker-j.html)
36
Garrison Member
Tennessee
Ward, William B. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/ward.html)
Unknown
Sergeant
Ireland
Warnell, Henry (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/warnell.html)
24
Garrison Member
Unknown
Washington, Joseph G. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/washington.html)
28
Garrison Member
Kentucky
Waters, Thomas (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/waters.html)
24
Garrison Member
England
Wells, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/wells.html)
47
Garrison Member
Georgia
White, Isaac (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/white-i.html)
Unknown
Sergeant
Alabama or Kentucky
White, Robert (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/white-r.html)
30
Captain
Unknown
Williamson, Hiram James (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/williamson.html)
26
Sergeant-Major
Pennsylvania
Wills, William (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/wills.html)
Unknown
Garrison Member
Unknown
Wilson, David L. (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/wilson-d.html)
29
Garrison Member
Scotland
Wilson, John (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/wilson-j.html)
32
Garrison Member
Pennsylvania
Wolf, Anthony (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/wolf.html)
54
Garrison Member
Spain
Wright, Claiborne (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/wright.html)
26
Garrison Member
North Carolina
Zanco, Charles (http://www.thealamo.org/history/the-1836-battle/the-defenders/defenders/zanco.html)
28
Garrison Member
Unknown
libertariantexas
03-09-2014, 05:21 AM
BTW, the "secession" candidate in the Republican primary finished a dismal fourth (out of 4)
place, at 1% of the Republican vote.
libertyjam
03-09-2014, 07:26 AM
Like my dad told me once, "If I owned Hell and Texas, I'd rent Texas and live in Hell."
About the only reply to that is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQoXnz3h_FE
Dogsoldier
03-09-2014, 08:34 AM
I hate it when people say "remember the Alamo" like it was some great victory or something.
Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie died at the Alamo. What am I missing?
Jamesiv1
03-09-2014, 10:36 AM
//
Pericles
03-09-2014, 03:54 PM
I hate it when people say "remember the Alamo" like it was some great victory or something.
Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie died at the Alamo. What am I missing?
It was voluntary sacrifice to buy time for a military force capable of winning a battle against Santa Anna to be built.
I hate it when people say "remember the Alamo" like it was some great victory or something.
Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie died at the Alamo. What am I missing?
When people say "remember the Alamo", they are not bragging about a victory. They are referencing the principle of fighting for what is right regardless of the odds. Crocket, Bowie, and the rest never stood a chance at victory.
Occam's Banana
03-09-2014, 09:24 PM
I hate it when people say "remember the Alamo" like it was some great victory or something.
Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie died at the Alamo. What am I missing?
What you are missing is the entire point.
No one says it "like it was some great victory or something" - in fact, just the opposite. The whole point is that it was NOT a victory.
The same thing goes for "Remember the Maine" and "Remember Pearl Harbor" and so forth.
"Remember [whatever]" is an exhortation ad casus belli - it is not celebratory.
PaulConventionWV
03-09-2014, 09:33 PM
I wish people would stop making threads about past events like they're today's headlines.
libertyjam
03-10-2014, 08:28 AM
When people say "remember the Alamo", they are not bragging about a victory. They are referencing the principle of fighting for what is right regardless of the odds. Crocket, Bowie, and the rest never stood a chance at victory.
Besides the battle cry is not just " Remember the Alamo", it is "Remember the Alamo, Remember Goliad".
Dogsoldier
03-10-2014, 08:40 AM
Ah ok. I was like ok? Everybody died...wth?lol
Pericles
03-10-2014, 01:15 PM
I wish people would stop making threads about past events like they're today's headlines.
Got you hopes up, did it?
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