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Root
02-26-2014, 01:14 PM
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/600121107/Shell-shocked-Errant-avalanche-bomb-rips-Pleasant-Grove-home.html?pg=all

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Shell shocked: Errant avalanche bomb rips Pleasant Grove home

PLEASANT GROVE — Scott and Lori Connors' family room looks like it was bombed. There are random holes in the walls, gashes in the fabric of the couch and chair. There's broken glass everywhere and a sheet of plywood where the window used to be.


Outside, a shed is in tatters, and there's a boulder-size crater in the lawn. Upstairs, there are pieces of shrapnel imbedded in the bathroom wall.


A large mirror has what looks like bullet holes in the glass.


It looks like it was bombed — because it was.


A 105mm howitzer shell fired near Sundance in Provo Canyon overshot its mark and landed with a bang in the Conners' back yard. The boom was heard over several blocks.


Debris from the 3 p.m. explosion Wednesday also damaged a car across the street from the Connors' home and two other houses in the vicinity of 1600 East and 500 South on the Pleasant Grove bench.


It was a miracle no one was killed or injured, said Scott Connors.


"If the school bus had just been a minute or two earlier, kids would have been walking in the street where the shrapnel went across," Connors said.


The Connors' 3-year-old son was lying on the family room floor watching television when the mortar exploded.


If he had raised his head or if he'd been standing, he would have been in the path of several bits of deadly flying shrapnel.


As it was, he was covered in broken glass and badly frightened, say his parents.


"He's telling everybody, 'Our house exploded!' " said Lori Connors.


Lori Connors chokes up when she thinks about it.


"Every time I walk downstairs, I think, "What if?' " she said.


"We figure it was a minor miracle. No. It wasn't minor," said Scott Connors.


Utah Department of Transportation officials, who have taken responsibility for the errant mortar, say the event is a rarity, even though they set off 560 rounds of explosive material every year in an attempt to control avalanche danger in the Provo, American Fork, Big and Little Cottonwood canyons.


"Of the tens of thousands of blasts done in Utah, there are extremely few incidents like this," said Liam Fitzgerald, supervisor for the Avalanche Safety Program in UDOT's Region 2.


"This one was recorded as a dud because the crew did not see or hear an explosion," Fitzgerald said.


Fitzgerald said the cannon was fired from a fixed launch site on the north side of Provo Canyon — a spot above Sundance — that's been used many times before.


"Most of our firing is done when we cannot see the target," he said. "That's when we have avalanches, when it's storming."


The blast was at least 3 miles off course. Avalanche-control operations are being temporarily suspended in Provo Canyon until officials can determine how the accident happened.


UDOT blames the misfire on too much gunpowder.


UDOT spokesman Geoff DuPaix said the shells come pre-packaged in bundles, so it isn't clear who is responsible for using the larger charge.


Carlos Braceras, UDOT deputy director, said UDOT takes responsibility for the accident and wants to make certain it doesn't happen again. Exact damage estimates are still coming in, but it could reach $100,000.


"We obviously have a little bit of work to do here," he said.


Investigators for the Federal Bureau of Investigation were initially called to the scene until it was determined no terrorist or malicious intent was involved.


"We were actually relieved to find it was so random, not a targeted event against us," Connors said.


Connors said insurance investigators are trying to estimate the extent of the damage, and UDOT Executive Director John Njord has promised Thursday that the department would do what it can to restore things.


Meanwhile, the Utah County Sheriff's Office is continuing to investigate the exact cause of the overshoot, and the Connors are collecting shrapnel and counting their blessings.


"You just don't think you'll have a bomb in the back yard," said Lori Connors. "It's just not something you think you have to worry about."

phill4paul
02-26-2014, 01:20 PM
:eek:Wow.

roho76
02-26-2014, 01:21 PM
WTF does the Utah DOT have a fucking 105mm Howitzer?

Root
02-26-2014, 01:26 PM
WTF does the Utah DOT have a fucking 105mm Howitzer?
To protect the roads ("avalanche control").

jbauer
02-26-2014, 01:34 PM
See, drones could have dropped it closer to the target!!!! :D

Red Green
02-26-2014, 01:44 PM
WTF does the Utah DOT have a fucking 105mm Howitzer?

Crowd control. They were worried that the Jazz might someday win the NBA championship so they figured they had best pick one up.

69360
02-26-2014, 02:26 PM
WTF does the Utah DOT have a fucking 105mm Howitzer?

Avalanche control, controlled hits break up the snowpack before it gets too big. They do this in Alaska as well. It's very common and it works. Well if you aim it right anyway.

pcosmar
02-26-2014, 02:38 PM
March 29 2005

No wonder I couldn't find any news articles.

dannno
02-26-2014, 02:41 PM
Crowd control. They were worried that the Jazz might someday win the NBA championship so they figured they had best pick one up.

Why?!

jbauer
02-26-2014, 02:52 PM
Why?!

Um....if you couldn't read the sarcasm dripping off of that then you need to work on your comprehension skills.

Root
02-26-2014, 03:03 PM
March 29 2005

No wonder I couldn't find any news articles.
Whoops. I just got it today, lol

aGameOfThrones
02-26-2014, 03:22 PM
Only DOT should have 105mm shells. We have to pass a law to limit the size of the clip* in that gun.



UDOT blames the misfire on too much gunpowder.

You gotta blame something...

AFPVet
02-26-2014, 03:34 PM
We can't trust you with small arms—yet we'll go around firing 105mm Howitzers at peoples' homes :mad:

Pericles
02-26-2014, 03:49 PM
We can't trust you with small arms—yet we'll go around firing 105mm Howitzers at peoples' homes :mad:

This is why the 2A protects 105mm howitzers. If there was the risk of one coming back, people would be more careful about checking the firing data on those guns.

LibertyRevolution
02-27-2014, 12:54 AM
Funny thread!
I lol'ed lots at everyone's comments, sorry not enough reps for everyone. lol

JK/SEA
02-27-2014, 10:04 AM
they deserved it. Thats what you get for living too close to idiots with Howitzers.

Henry Rogue
02-27-2014, 10:51 AM
This just in from Paul Krugman Utah is experimenting with a great new jobs program.

unknown
02-27-2014, 10:56 AM
WTF does the Utah DOT have a fucking 105mm Howitzer?

As an excuse to have cool crap.

Rub it in our faces that the slaves wouldnt be allowed to own one.

jclay2
02-27-2014, 11:07 AM
I really don't see a problem with the DOT having access to this sort of artillery. The problem is that I as a mundane citizen can't get one.

Dr.3D
02-27-2014, 11:22 AM
The Connors' 3-year-old son was lying on the family room floor watching television when the mortar exploded.

Now I'm confused, was it a mortar or a gun? And if it was a mortar, and it exploded, wouldn't those who fired it be the ones to get hurt?

Pericles
02-27-2014, 01:19 PM
Now I'm confused, was it a mortar or a gun? And if it was a mortar, and it exploded, wouldn't those who fired it be the ones to get hurt?

We don't have 105mm mortars. There are 60mm, 81mm, 4.2inch (107mm), and 120mm mortars in the US arsenal.

Dr.3D
02-27-2014, 01:32 PM
We don't have 105mm mortars. There are 60mm, 81mm, 4.2inch (107mm), and 120mm mortars in the US arsenal.
Well, I was just going by what they said in the story.

The Connors' 3-year-old son was lying on the family room floor watching television when the mortar exploded.


Guess they don't know what a mortar is.

Danke
02-27-2014, 01:38 PM
Looks like the home was long over due for remodeling anyway.

Root
02-27-2014, 03:09 PM
Looks like the home was long over due for remodeling anyway.
It'll buff out

pcosmar
02-27-2014, 03:17 PM
Well, I was just going by what they said in the story.


Guess they don't know what a mortar is.

At the point of impact,, it hardly matters.

Dr.3D
02-27-2014, 03:32 PM
At the point of impact,, it hardly matters.
Well, if the mortar exploded, there wouldn't be any point of impact because those who were dropping the shells in the mortar would be dead.

GunnyFreedom
02-27-2014, 03:33 PM
We don't have 105mm mortars. There are 60mm, 81mm, 4.2inch (107mm), and 120mm mortars in the US arsenal.

I also have a hard time believing that a mortar shell could ever be 3 miles off target, given that the MAX RANGE of a 107mm mortar is only 3.5 miles. So you'd actually have to be pointing at least 80° off-target to have a 3-mile miss. Enough extra charge to make a mortar shell go 3 miles further is just going to detonate the mortar itself. Now a howitzer on the other hand... Different matter altogether.

Dr.3D
02-27-2014, 03:51 PM
We wouldn't even be talking about mortars if the person writing the article hadn't used the word in the article. I wonder why they did that.

GunnyFreedom
02-27-2014, 03:53 PM
We wouldn't even be talking about mortars if the person writing the article hadn't used the word in the article. I wonder why they did that.

less scary than the actual howitzer they used?

GunnyFreedom
02-27-2014, 03:57 PM
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Dr.3D
02-27-2014, 04:06 PM
less scary than the actual howitzer they used?
Perhaps, but they said the mortar exploded. I'd hate to be the one using a mortar that exploded. That would be pretty scary.

GunnyFreedom
02-27-2014, 04:08 PM
Perhaps, but they said the mortar exploded. I'd hate to be the one using a mortar that exploded. That would be pretty scary.

We may need a new category here...

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LibForestPaul
02-27-2014, 05:32 PM
http://www.kongregate.com/games/moly/gorillas-bas

UDOT training program.

TruckinMike
02-28-2014, 05:23 AM
This just in from Paul Krugman Utah is experimenting with a great new jobs program.
WINNER!
Best comment of thread award.

Ha ha....

Icymudpuppy
02-28-2014, 06:52 AM
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Athan
02-28-2014, 10:02 AM
Government terrorists!!!