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enhanced_deficit
02-23-2014, 12:57 PM
Is Hillary "what difference does it make" Clinton done politically as far as any future propects for high office in the US are concerned?










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pcosmar
02-23-2014, 01:08 PM
No,,

and out of public view she may become even more dangerous. (if that is possible)

enhanced_deficit
02-23-2014, 01:13 PM
No,,

and out of public view she may become even more dangerous. (if that is possible)

So safer options for America is to put her in the White House fish bowl?

That is not very encouraging option.

pcosmar
02-23-2014, 01:20 PM
So safer options for America is to put her in the White House fish bowl?

That is not very encouraging option.

"what difference does it make" ?

Of course,, there will be a choice.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/news/120213/rick-santorum-440.jpg

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/gty_herman_cain_jp_111012_wblog.jpg

enhanced_deficit
02-23-2014, 01:34 PM
"what difference does it make" ?

Of course,, there will be a choice.

http://img2.timeinc.net/people/i/2012/news/120213/rick-santorum-440.jpg

http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/gty_herman_cain_jp_111012_wblog.jpg



First dude was pro-war barinwashed Godist neocon/Chtriostinist and second guy was pizza brain fool /wanna be neocons puppet who actually thought he cuould be "Republican Obama" even if some GOPrs cruely tyoed with his emotions.

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But old strioes like this won't be relevant in future high office races.. unless Dems found another "Obama" for 2016 with some Afghani middle name this time for GOP to struggle with. And the guy with Afghani middle would probably win too thanks to growing "Afghan war was a mistake" guilt among voters.

Anti Federalist
02-23-2014, 01:44 PM
First dude was pro-war barinwashed Godist neocon/Chtriostinist and second guy was pizza brain fool /wanna be neocons puppet who actually thought he cuould be "Republican Obama" even if some GOPrs cruely tyoed with his emotions.

But old strioes like this won't be relevant in future high office races.. unless Dems found another "Obama" for 2016 with some Afghani middle name this time for GOP to struggle with. And the guy with Afghani middle would probably win too thanks to growing "Afghan war was a mistake" guilt among voters.

http://img.pandawhale.com/77971-marty-mcfly-WHAT-gif-zkEh.gif

Carson
02-23-2014, 01:48 PM
Hopefully the country has a good grasp of the situation we are in and see our problems in a whole new light.

I'm thinking it will take a new set of solutions and people to face up to the work ahead.

Anti Federalist
02-23-2014, 01:55 PM
I figured Harridan Hillary to be a shoo-in during 2008.

So, barring health issues, she's due in 2016.

Ronin Truth
02-23-2014, 01:56 PM
Nah, Bubba still wants a crack at the new crop of White House interns.

pcosmar
02-23-2014, 02:01 PM
I figured Harridan Hillary to be a shoo-in during 2008.

So, barring health issues, she's due in 2016.

I expect they are prepping another "unknown",, without baggage and record that can be checked.

While the "R" will trot out a selection to confuse the already confused and disillusioned republican voters, and prevent any real change.
but that is only if the charade continues till 2016.

enhanced_deficit
02-23-2014, 02:19 PM
Hopefully the country has a good grasp of the situation we are in and see our problems in a whole new light.

I'm thinking it will take a new set of solutions and people to face up to the work ahead.

Agreed.
It is sad reality that people learn through their suffering and grow through their pains.. and there are more growth conducive condictions being set forus day by day.



http://img.pandawhale.com/77971-marty-mcfly-WHAT-gif-zkEh.gif

When in 2007-2008 America was depressed from costs of Iraq war "mistake", guys with little track record but with minority skin color and middle name that was most popular name in Iraq became a sign od "hope and change". I had heard rumors that Barack Hussein Obama would not have won if he had exact same views/record but name like Jesse Jackson or if looked like Howard Dean in skin color.. I I believe that to be true.

Above was sarcasm but I do recall so many McCain rallies trying to struggle with Obama's names and background rather than his actual track record or his financiers etc.

69360
02-23-2014, 05:04 PM
Done? Are you high? She's the single most likely person to be the next potus.

I can't stand her, but I live in the real world.

CaptUSA
02-23-2014, 05:21 PM
If I've learned anything in my lifetime, it's that the Clinton's are NEVER done. This is what they do. And they will do this until they die, and then Chelsea will take it from there. Even if the current situation doesn't call for her to be President, you can bet that she will find a way to be the biggest thorn in the side of whoever is President. There is absolutely zero chance that Hillary is done. I actually have my doubts as to whether she is even going to run, but if she doesn't, it's because she sees more power in another route. Not because of any of these stories.

Paulbot99
02-23-2014, 05:25 PM
If she runs for President, it'd be advisable to keep reminding the public of her dirty laundry. There is quite a lot.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
02-23-2014, 05:27 PM
2020.

enhanced_deficit
02-23-2014, 06:21 PM
Done? Are you high? She's the single most likely person to be the next potus.

I can't stand her, but I live in the real world.

No, I'm addicted to Freedom and there is no where enough around to get even close to getting high on it lol
( Ok Ted N I stole your line for criticizing SWC with wrong "metaphors" )

She was a tie with Christie in key states just few weeks ago and with recent media twists in candidate news cycle management, she is now 9-13 points ahead of GOPer's in those states. But this is very fickle situation and a lot will most likely change between now and 2016. I suspect Rand can pull it off if he wages a smart aggressive campaign. Some surrogates in GOP need to go after Clinton, she is quite vulnerable/too much baggage. Recall how smoothly SWC droneking team was able to bulldozed her, clever GOP strategists can do same or worse to her as long as they have a candidate without baggage and sharp team with more scrotums guts than Hillary.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9CRgFO2mnM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9CRgFO2mnM




This is current story, media spins/biases not withstanding:


Hillary Clinton Way Ahead Of Every GOP Candidate In Battleground State Of Ohio

By: Justin Baragona
Thursday, February, 20th, 2014

The Tea Party candidates fare very poorly against Clinton in Ohio. Senators Rand Paul, Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz all trail by at least 13 points, with Cruz bringing up the rear. Against all three of those candidates, Clinton has at least 50% of the voters favoring her. One potential GOP candidate that is supposed to appeal to moderates, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, trails Clinton by a formidable 15 points, 51-36. It appears that Ohio voters are ready for another Clinton, but not another Bush.

Of course, 2016 is FAR away. But, usually around this time, you’d at least see a couple of potentially strong candidates emerging that a party can rally around and build up. In this case, nobody looks like a good candidate for the Republican Party. Unless the GOP can find some way to hammer away at Clinton or make some fake scandal stick, they are in for another huge disappointment in 2016.



http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/20/hillary-clinton-gop-candidate-battleground-state-ohio.html

If Rand can manage to win primary, and then runs a solid Libertarian campaign, there is good chance of him winning over enough liberal/anti-war Dems to pull ahead in national. There is also not a very slim chance that Dems won't nominate Hillary.

Tywysog Cymru
02-23-2014, 06:57 PM
What about her makes her so popular?

CaptUSA
02-23-2014, 07:31 PM
What about her makes her so popular?What makes paper money popular? Only the belief you have that it is worth something.

Dianne
02-23-2014, 08:23 PM
Yes, because her remarks were totally off the chart !!!! WHAT DIFFERENCE DOES IT MAKE ???? What difference does it make, if you die from a bullet to your head from some unknown entity, or as a result of choking to death on a piece of steak .... NOTHING, according to Hillary .... You're dead... What difference does it make????? So who needs the police department, the fbi, the department of justice ... bann Autopsies too .... According to Hilary, If you're dead, you're dead .. so what difference does it make how you died? A theory Hillary has often used in the trail of unexplained deceased people, with one common bond... Hillary ... What difference does it make ?

alucard13mm
02-23-2014, 08:51 PM
Republicans have no chance of winning against Hillary. Even with Rand, its very low chance.

People want to feel goody goody that they voted in the first woman president.

Anti Federalist
02-23-2014, 09:07 PM
What about her makes her so popular?

Tyranny is popular.

People don't want freedom.

They want to be bossed around and told what to do.

Philhelm
02-23-2014, 09:59 PM
What about her makes her so popular?

Every woman I have known has said that they would vote for Hillary Clinton if given the opportunity. They love her since she represent Girl Power. We have the first "black" president, so now they will want to flaunt the first female president. The president after Hillary will likely be a raging homosexual.

Philhelm
02-23-2014, 10:04 PM
Republicans have no chance of winning against Hillary. Even with Rand, its very low chance.

People want to feel goody goody that they voted in the first woman president.

I also really think she would win if she runs. Line in the sand?

alucard13mm
02-23-2014, 10:42 PM
I am curious who the Constitutional and LP party going to run and if they can break 5% collectively, this time.. especially with all this internal turmoil and angst.

69360
02-23-2014, 10:55 PM
No, I'm addicted to Freedom and there is no where enough around to get even close to getting high on it lol
( Ok Ted N I stole your line for criticizing SWC with wrong "metaphors" )

She was a tie with Christie in key states just few weeks ago and with recent media twists in candidate news cycle management, she is now 9-13 points ahead of GOPer's in those states. But this is very fickle situation and a lot will most likely change between now and 2016. I suspect Rand can pull it off if he wages a smart aggressive campaign. Some surrogates in GOP need to go after Clinton, she is quite vulnerable/too much baggage. Recall how smoothly SWC droneking team was able to bulldozed her, clever GOP strategists can do same or worse to her as long as they have a candidate without baggage and sharp team with more scrotums guts than Hillary.





This is current story, media spins/biases not withstanding:



http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/20/hillary-clinton-gop-candidate-battleground-state-ohio.html

If Rand can manage to win primary, and then runs a solid Libertarian campaign, there is good chance of him winning over enough liberal/anti-war Dems to pull ahead in national. There is also not a very slim chance that Dems won't nominate Hillary.



Wrong. The democratic primary will be such a blowout she will emerge unscathed while the GOP candidates will tear each other apart. The Clintons have a ton of baggage, but whoever the GOP candidate is will be much more damaged goods than Hillary after the primary.

Rand could win, I want him too, but it's long odds and he doesn't have a vagina. The low info voters who elected Obama because he had a black father will vote for Hillary because she has a vagina.

CPUd
02-23-2014, 11:48 PM
http://i.imgur.com/PWUJZ8V.jpg

HOLLYWOOD
02-24-2014, 01:27 AM
These whores are all that... the criminal media and money masters can make ANY politician seeking the highest office. They can craft anything to draw the clueless to their story lines. Same TPTB can sabotage any candidate with the same money, media, and power.

Well, puppets, prostitutes, and marionettes stamped for approval, may sit on the Imperial throne. Everthing is controlled and rigged today, you only have owners.

anaconda
02-24-2014, 01:52 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etk_O-nhlA4

Victor Grey
02-24-2014, 02:10 AM
What about her makes her so popular?

My mother is one of the most straight-edge traditionalist "conservatives" I know of. Anti-drug freedom, low taxes, pro state, bomb all the enemies sort of thing. Don't think too deeply about things, probably. But does somehow despite all the contradictions, in some way wishes the government was smaller.

That late baby boomer, tea party sort of conservative. Has most all of the flaws liberty minded people tend to dislike about mainstream conservatives. Though it's own good points and common ground sometimes. That is her more or less.


But for some reason even for all that... she just loves her some Hillary Clinton.

I can only wonder why.

Maybe, if her name was George, or Bob or oh say, a man's name for some particular totally unrelated reason at all, she'd be against her being president.

In truth, the reason she takes that exception is fairly transparent to me, though I've never brought it up to her. You can just tell. Her reasons for supporting her are always vague.

She has a dream of a certain historical something happening, and is willing to put down a few personally held ideas for an election, in order to see it happen. Democrats are more than ready to supply that wanted good.

I wish politics weren't affected by what amounts to a novelty, but from my experience that just isn't the case.

Philhelm
02-24-2014, 08:08 AM
Well, she can only run for president if she is still living. Perhaps we can hope for something good to happen for a change.

Natural Citizen
02-24-2014, 08:46 AM
I expect they are prepping another "unknown",, without baggage and record that can be checked.

While the "R" will trot out a selection to confuse the already confused and disillusioned republican voters, and prevent any real change.
but that is only if the charade continues till 2016.

Clinton vs Bush. That's what you'll get. Bet.

pcosmar
02-24-2014, 09:32 AM
Clinton vs Bush. That's what you'll get. Bet.

Possible.
Things are really that bad.


http://angrywhitedude.com/wp-content/uploads2/2014/02/klaus3-519x640.jpg

Philhelm
02-24-2014, 02:02 PM
This thread makes Vince Foster sad. He shares my surname, so it's somewhat personal. An assault on a Foster is an assault on all Fosters.

SilentBull
02-24-2014, 02:13 PM
You think the average voter gives a crap about Benghazi? They don't. Birth control, gay "rights", women's "rights", etc., is what's important.

jonhowe
02-24-2014, 02:38 PM
I am curious who the Constitutional and LP party going to run and if they can break 5% collectively, this time.. especially with all this internal turmoil and angst.

Doubtful. It will be the "most important election of our generation" and we'd be "wasting our vote" if we did that.

Duh.

Pericles
02-24-2014, 03:03 PM
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Philhelm again.

surf
02-24-2014, 03:24 PM
Doubtful. It will be the "most important election of our generation" and we'd be "wasting our vote" if we did that.

Duh.
beautiful, and indisputable.... if we don't vote for one or the other we'll also have "no right to complain" along with being at fault for something.

alucard13mm
02-24-2014, 03:54 PM
beautiful, and indisputable.... if we don't vote for one or the other we'll also have "no right to complain" along with being at fault for something.

Yeah. We would bitch about it on the forums on how horrible hillary is for 8 years.

Gop will have to run a female minority vp at the very least.

RandallFan
02-24-2014, 04:55 PM
She is going to run on Bill Clinton's record. The living president with a good record to the average voter.

The GOP won't run a female minority. Condi Rice is pro-abortion, pro-globalist and pro-amnesty.

Kelly Ayotte is boring and stupid and has a low approval in NH.

If Christie might run with LePage to try to win enough conservatives. 2 popular fat guys.

Jeb would pick Rubio or pick a random hispanic's name out of the hat.

I dont know who Rand would pick.

Jingles
02-24-2014, 05:24 PM
There are people that like Hillary Clinton? I have never met any of these people.

It's like the people that actually like Rick Santorum. They exist in large numbers, but I guess they all hide until they get to the polls because these people are non-existent in my life and the interactions that I have with people.

But then again most people that I know/meet give no fucks about politics, are AnCaps/libertarians, or raging communists. I guess I typically don't have interactions with the "common voter".

anaconda
02-24-2014, 07:55 PM
Every woman I have known has said that they would vote for Hillary Clinton if given the opportunity. They love her since she represent Girl Power. We have the first "black" president, so now they will want to flaunt the first female president. The president after Hillary will likely be a raging homosexual.

I would love to have a woman president or a gay president. As long as they were full on Constitutionalists. Debra Medina would be terrific woman POTUS, for example. Can't think of any outwardly gay liberty folks off the top of my head. There are probably many.