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aGameOfThrones
02-20-2014, 05:09 AM
TALLAHASSEE, Florida (Reuters) - Remee Jo Lee was excited in the winter of 2013 over her pregnancy with a baby she already named Memphis, even though her new boyfriend envisioned a very different future.

This winter, John Welden, formerly a pre-med student from a privileged background, sits in prison serving a nearly 14-year federal sentence for tricking Lee into taking an abortion pill.

Meanwhile, Lee is in Florida's capital, changing hearts and minds instead of diapers, to pass a new state law that would set criminal penalties for causing a pregnant woman to lose her fetus regardless of how early in the pregnancy.

"This is the most devastating experience for me. It just never goes away. I deal with this every day of my life," Lee told the Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday.

"Every day, when I see a changing table in the bathroom, I remember what I've lost, I deal with the stress of this thing."

Current Florida law applies only to the killing of a fetus which is far enough along to survive outside the womb.

Because Lee's fetus was less than 7 weeks old, Welden was charged instead under the federal Unborn Victims of Violence Act, punishable by life in prison.

In a deal with prosecutors, he pleaded guilty to charges of product tampering and with bodily harm, and conspiracy to commit mail fraud.

The expansion of fetal protection in Florida failed to pass last year. After hearing from Lee, a Senate panel voted 6-2 to move the bill along.

Welden admitted in court that he gave Lee a bottle of pills labeled amoxicillin and told her that his father, an obstetrician who confirmed the pregnancy, prescribed the antibiotic for her for a bacterial infection.

In reality, the pill bottle contained Cytotec, known generically as misoprostol, a stomach ulcer medication which can cause abortion. Welden obtained the pills using his father's prescription pad, scratched off identifying marks on the pills and faked the bottle label with the help of a local pharmacy technician.

Prosecutors indicted him in May after police recorded a phone call between Welden and Lee in which he admitted what he had done.

Lee testified in support of a bill by Senator Kelli Stargel, that would make the killing or injury of an unborn baby a separate offense when a pregnant woman is killed or injured.

An offender would not have to know a victim was pregnant, in order to be charged with separate offenses. Penalties would depend on the nature of the offense, such as assault and battery or murder, but a maximum life sentence could be imposed under Stargel's bill for killing an unborn infant.

Killing the mother could be punishable by death.

http://news.yahoo.com/florida-woman-tricked-abortion-seeks-fetal-protection-laws-000940766--finance.html

tod evans
02-20-2014, 06:31 AM
In reality, the pill bottle contained Cytotec, known generically as misoprostol, a stomach ulcer medication which can cause abortion

The pills may cause a miscarriage...

These people need a good dose of reality!

If it's okay for a mother to "choose" to abort a fetus then it's only right that the father have the same "choice" available to him....

This type of decision, one in which a life hangs in the balance, should never have been granted unilateral authority to either parent!

If abortion is going to be legal then all three parties should have an equal say in the matter...

Origanalist
02-20-2014, 07:49 AM
The pills may cause a miscarriage...

These people need a good dose of reality!

If it's okay for a mother to "choose" to abort a fetus then it's only right that the father have the same "choice" available to him....

This type of decision, one in which a life hangs in the balance, should never have been granted unilateral authority to either parent!

If abortion is going to be legal then all three parties should have an equal say in the matter...

The double standard is glaringly obvious. If a man can be charged, then so should the woman.

asurfaholic
02-20-2014, 07:58 AM
Baby steps i guess. Now a man needs to charge his baby momma when she has an abortion. Its his baby too. If its not clearly rape, its wrong the woman can abort a baby but a dad can be charged with the equivalent of murder.

Not that this father in this case shouldn't be sitting behind bars. He is where he belongs.

Origanalist
02-20-2014, 08:01 AM
Baby steps i guess. Now a man needs to charge his baby momma when she has an abortion. Its his baby too. If its not clearly rape, its wrong the woman can abort a baby but a dad can be charged with the equivalent of murder.

Not that this father in this case shouldn't be sitting behind bars. He is where he belongs.

He can't charge her. The supreme court has ruled that a woman killing her baby is not a crime.

mosquitobite
02-20-2014, 08:13 AM
He can't charge her. The supreme court has ruled that a woman killing her baby is not a crime.

He wasn't charged with killing the baby either.

ETA: well he was initially, but man he should have fought it. This could have been another R v W in the making.

Origanalist
02-20-2014, 08:16 AM
Killing the mother could be punishable by death.

Stargel emphasized that her bill is not aimed at abortion, and would not apply penalties when a woman seeks to have a pregnancy terminated.

That seems fair........