The libertarian manifesto Glenn Beck has been reading

[compromise]

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On the Glenn Beck radio program this morning, Beck referenced the fact that those who are successful at providing valuable goods and services and thus creating wealth are going to be increasingly lectured and regulated by politicians as the greed/envy class warfare message amplifies.


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Title: Don't Hurt People and Don't Take Their Stuff: A Libertarian Manifesto

Author: Matt Kibbe

To that end, he brought up a “libertarian manifesto” he has been reading recently by frequent guest Matt Kibbe of Freedomworks, which can serve as an antidote.

The book, entitled “Don’t Hurt People and Don’t Take Their Stuff,” which Glenn describes as “a libertarian manifesto” enamored Beck in its simple but all-encompassing message:

“Just don’t hurt people and don’t take their stuff. That’s what life should be. Just leave people alone. Don’t hurt people, don’t take their stuff. Period. Everything that you do should be with those two thoughts in mind. Does it hurt somebody else? Am I hurting people? Then I should probably stop doing it. You should — you have enough self-respect and self-regulation…”

Glenn extended this argument to Common Core, where he noted that children are receiving assignments that stress the opposite of these classical Liberal principles, focusing on wealth redistribution and statism as opposed to the ideas espoused by free-market economists and libertarian political philosophers like Thomas Sowell, Milton Friedman, Friedrich Hayek, Adam Smith and Walter Williams.

Kibbe’s book, slated for release on April 1, 2014, is billed as ”a rational yet deeply felt argument supporting the individual against the oppression of the collective.”

[eduardo89]

Beck is such a well read man.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

Haha please. Kibbe has no libertarian credibility when he goes around spewing Republican red meat propaganda like how great Reagan was and how the Tea Party should embody him. Of course Beck would eat this shit up.

[Anti-Neocon]

Another compromise/eduardo thread about Glenn Beck...

[Christian Liberty]

I saw the title and hoped Beck was reading Rothbard. My hopes are shattered.

[cajuncocoa]

Another compromise/eduardo thread about Glenn Beck...
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[phill4paul]

Another compromise/eduardo thread about Glenn Beck...

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[compromise]

Another compromise/eduardo thread about Glenn Beck...

It is important people on RPF know what book Glenn Beck is reading at the moment.

[pcosmar]

It is important people on RPF know what book Glenn Beck is reading at the moment.

Why?

[belian78]

This is almost getting to the point of spam, seriously.

[rpfocus]

Another compromise/eduardo thread about Glenn Beck...

Tell me about it. They're as bad as Jehovah's Witnesses.

[Warlord]

It is important people on RPF know what book Glenn Beck is reading at the moment.

No it really isn't. he's still a neocon on foreign policy so he can get lost

[compromise]

No it really isn't. he's still a neocon on foreign policy so he can get lost

He's only a little hawkish on Iran. On everything else, he's now a non-interventionist. Against foreign aid, intervention in Syria and Libya and for withdrawal from Afghanistan.

[Warlord]

He's only a little hawkish on Iran. On everything else, he's now a non-interventionist. Against foreign aid, intervention in Syria and Libya and for withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Iran hawkishness = neocon = idiotic

[BuddyRey]

One of these days, Compromise will post a thread about someone other than Palin, Cruz, Rand, or Beck, and I'll have a heart attack out of pure shock.

[compromise]

Iran hawkishness = neocon = idiotic
Yet another RPFer who doesn't know the definition of neocon and through painting with such a broad brush empowers the real neocons like Jen Rubin by encouraging them that everyone is on their side.

Hawkish attitudes in the United States towards Iran go back to a desire for retaliation against the Islamic uprising in 1979 against the pro-American dictator. One of the reasons Reagan won in 1980 was because people didn't think Carter was tough enough on Iran. Neoconservatism is an ideology that believes in using American strength to spread democracy around the world, e.g. Serbia, Iraq, Syria, etc. Neoconservatives would obviously be strong proponents of aggression towards Iran, but all proponents of aggression towards Iran aren't necessarily neoconservatives.

[eduardo89]

Tell me about it. They're as bad as Jehovah's Witnesses.

I don't think I've ever actually started a Glenn Beck thread. I do enjoy reading them, though.

[eduardo89]

One of these days, Compromise will post a thread about someone other than Palin, Cruz, Rand, or Beck, and I'll have a heart attack out of pure shock.

Why would anyone want to post a thread about someone other than those conservative heroes?

[Warlord]

Yet another RPFer who doesn't know the definition of neocon and through painting with such a broad brush empowers the real neocons like Jen Rubin by encouraging them that everyone is on their side.

Hawkish attitudes in the United States towards Iran go back to a desire for retaliation against the Islamic uprising in 1979 against the pro-American dictator. One of the reasons Reagan won in 1980 was because people didn't think Carter was tough enough on Iran. Neoconservatism is an ideology that believes in using American strength to spread democracy around the world, e.g. Serbia, Iraq, Syria, etc. Neoconservatives would obviously be strong proponents of aggression towards Iran, but all proponents of aggression towards Iran aren't necessarily neoconservatives.


Beck is pro-military, suppported the Iraq War considers Kyle a hero and all that garbage (like Palin and Cruz). He's a neocon who absolutely supports an interventionist approach when its popular to do so

[eduardo89]

Beck is pro-military, suppported the Iraq War considers Kyle a hero and all that garbage (like Palin and Cruz). He's a neocon who absolutely supports an interventionist approach when its popular to do so

Not every interventionist is a neoconservative. Beck isn't a neocon.

[Danke]

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[eduardo89]

Are you arguing with yourself again?

Arguing with myself is pointless. I always win arguments.

Edit: except when I argue with my girlfriend.

[compromise]

Beck is pro-military, suppported the Iraq War considers Kyle a hero and all that garbage (like Palin and Cruz). He's a neocon who absolutely supports an interventionist approach when its popular to do so

Or he's a libertarian-leaning conservative who absolutely supports the non-interventionist approach when it's popular to do so.

[ctiger2]

Beck is such a well read man.

Thx I was due for a good deep chuckle.

[eduardo89]

Thx I was due for a good deep chuckle.

I bet he's much better read than you are.

[Warlord]

Why would anyone want to post a thread about someone other than those conservative heroes?

Palin, Beck and Cruz are Christian Zionist shills who want to bomb Iran and aren't heroic. Quit lumping Rand in with them/

[Warlord]

Or he's a libertarian-leaning conservative who absolutely supports the non-interventionist approach when it's popular to do so.

Beck supported the Iraq War and uses his platform to fear monger on Iran. He's a Christian Zionist shill like the rest

[Danke]

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[Warlord]

Some of us have longer memories compromise. That's why you get blowback when you post about Beck who supported the Iraq War and is a Christian Zionist. The Paul's have never been that unlike Cruz and Beck who you seem to adore. This is the key difference.

[compromise]

Beck supported the Iraq War

The Iraq War is over. What's more important is that Beck takes a strong stance against Obama's wars.

[Warlord]

The Iraq War is over. What's more important is that Beck takes a strong stance against Obama's wars.

Here we go again.... but when a Republican is leading the charge like Cruz against Iran Beck is right there with him and Hannity and the rest. DO you deny he's a Christian Zionist like Cruz?

[eduardo89]

Here we go again.... but when a Republican is leading the charge like Cruz against Iran Beck is right there with him and Hannity and the rest. DO you deny he's a Christian Zionist like Cruz?

He's a Mormon Zionist.

[Snew]

Another compromise/eduardo thread about Glenn Beck...

Would we have it any other way? ;)

[compromise]

Here we go again.... but when a Republican is leading the charge like Cruz against Iran Beck is right there with him and Hannity and the rest. DO you deny he's a Christian Zionist like Cruz?

Nothing is really going to happen re: Iran. The rhetoric has been going on for 30 years and so far, nothing.

Of course he is a Christian Zionist. Rand and Amash also claim to be Christian Zionists.

[Warlord]

Nothing is really going to happen re: Iran. The rhetoric has been going on for 30 years and so far, nothing.

Of course he is a Christian Zionist. Rand and Amash also claim to be Christian Zionists.

No, the Paul's have never been Christian Zionists. This is the key difference. The Christian Zionist crowd take a hawkish position on Iran. That's their next target.

Nothing will happen about Iran until a Christian Zionist is Commander in Chief and Beck and the rest will be right there with them if they can whip up enough public support for another war.

[compromise]

No, the Paul's have never been Christian Zionists. This is the key difference. The Christian Zionist crowd take a hawkish position on Iran. That's their next target

Rand identifies as a Christian and also as a Zionist. He is not a Dispensationalist, which is what you appear to be referring to.

[Warlord]

He's a Mormon Zionist.

What's the difference eduardo, really? Nothing. Beck is a true snake along with Cruz and Palin. Cruz called a murderous sniper a hero just the other day

[Warlord]

Rand identifies as a Christian and also as a Zionist. He is not a Dispensationalist, which is what you appear to be referring to.

Where have the Paul's EVER identified themselves as Christian Zionists? I have never seen them endorse these theories and Rand has even been to Israel and given speeches to Zionists but that does't mean he is one

[eduardo89]

What's the difference eduardo, really? Nothing. Beck is a true snake along with Cruz and Palin. Cruz called a murderous sniper a hero just the other day

There's a big difference between Mormonism and Christianity.

Beck is a Mormon Zionist. Cruz and Palin are Christian Zionists (although I don't know how much of Palin's Zionism has to do with keeping appearances, as Zionism seems to be a pre-requisite for any right-wing leader in America)

[compromise]

Where have the Paul's EVER identified themselves as Christian Zionists? I have never seen them endorse these theories and Rand has even been to Israel and given speeches to Zionists but that does't mean he is one

If you support the idea of Israel, that makes you a Zionist. If you are a Christian that does so, you are a Christian Zionist. Rand was clear in his visit to Israel and at other times that he is a supporter of Israel.

The theories are Dispensationalist theology. That's not necessarily synonymous with Christian Zionism.

I am not disputing Ron, he is quite clearly an anti-Zionist.

[Warlord]

If you support the idea of Israel, that makes you a Zionist. If you are a Christian that does so, you are a Christian Zionist. Rand was clear in his visit to Israel and at other times that he is a supporter of Israel.

The theories are Dispensationalist theology. That's not necessarily synonymous with Christian Zionism.

I am not disputing Ron, he is quite clearly an anti-Zionist.

You're taking literal meanings too far. Rand is not a Christian Zionist who subscribes to Iran fear mongering. This is obvious in recent actions when refusing to sign on to the latest sanctions bill while Cruz did. This is a key difference you refuse to accept.

[devil21]

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[compromise]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

Why would Glenn Beck have a need for such a person?

[eduardo89]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29

My sock puppet days are long gone. I'm reformed after my RPF exile.

[Warlord]

Compromise, im going to post a Ted Cruz thread for you and eduardo

[compromise]

Compromise, im going to post a Ted Cruz thread for you and eduardo
Thanks.

But it better not be another one about MavPAC..

[Warlord]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?444444-Ted-Cruz-Says-Obama-Should-Threaten-Iran

[Brandywine]

Beck isn't perfect but he has a massive audience. It's possible for him to change his thinking, as we all do, and if he does change it toward a more non-interventionist approach obviously that would be a good thing. It seems like so many people are so hipster about libertarian ideas and don't want them to get popular because then they aren't cool anymore. :toady:

[devil21]

Why would Glenn Beck have a need for such a person?

I appreciate your offer for a free Blaze subscription if I "stfu" but I will decline. I'm much, much more expensive than that.

[Cabal]

Per usual, Beck is doin it wrong.

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[cajuncocoa]

It is important people on RPF know what book Glenn Beck is reading at the moment.
It's almost as relevant to know what book Katy Perry is reading.

[compromise]

It's almost as relevant to know what book Katy Perry is reading.

If she was reading a libertarian manifesto, that would be pretty relevant.


Beck isn't perfect but he has a massive audience. It's possible for him to change his thinking, as we all do, and if he does change it toward a more non-interventionist approach obviously that would be a good thing. It seems like so many people are so hipster about libertarian ideas and don't want them to get popular because then they aren't cool anymore. :toady:

That's the problem with this movement, people within it want to keep it on the fringe by disavowing any potential allies.


I appreciate your offer for a free Blaze subscription if I "stfu" but I will decline. I'm much, much more expensive than that.

Huh?

[eduardo89]

Beck isn't perfect but he has a massive audience. It's possible for him to change his thinking, as we all do, and if he does change it toward a more non-interventionist approach obviously that would be a good thing. It seems like so many people are so hipster about libertarian ideas and don't want them to get popular because then they aren't cool anymore. :toady:

7 posts in 3 years and one is defending Beck?

+rep

[pcosmar]

Rand identifies as a Christian and also as a Zionist.

He supports National Socialism?

That would certainly be a Deal Breaker.

Zionism IS National Socialism

[NewRightLibertarian]

This watered down trash might get some conservatives eventually on board with full-blown libertarianism so it's a good trend to see conservatives having to act like libertarians.

[PierzStyx]

The Iraq War is over. What's more important is that Beck takes a strong stance against Obama's wars.

No. What is important is that Beck is a non-interventionist. If he supports wars started by guys with "R" beside their name, then its just as bad as supporting Obama's violence. Principles must be consistent to be principles.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

The Iraq War is over. What's more important is that Beck takes a strong stance against Obama's wars.

And if they were Santorum's wars, Beck would volunteer as Minister of Propaganda.

[NIU Students for Liberty]

That's the problem with this movement, people within it want to keep it on the fringe by disavowing any potential allies.


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[AuH20]

He's a Mormon Zionist.

Nothing outrageous with that characterization and far from the neoconservative tag which was/is embodied by the Kristols. Beck certainly isn't perfect and is far too cozy with Jon Huntsman Sr, but some of the criticism he gets here is far over the top.

[cajuncocoa]

It's almost as relevant to know what book Katy Perry is reading.


If she was reading a libertarian manifesto, that would be pretty relevant.

I would disagree.

[eduardo89]

If she was reading a libertarian manifesto, that would be pretty relevant.

As long as she's got her mouth duck taped and the book is covering her face, I'd find that interesting.

[twomp]

Another compromise/eduardo thread about Glenn Beck...



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[cajuncocoa]

As long as she's got her mouth duck taped and the book is covering her face, I'd find that interesting.
That sums up how I feel about Beck.

[Christian Liberty]

What's the difference eduardo, really? Nothing. Beck is a true snake along with Cruz and Palin. Cruz called a murderous sniper a hero just the other day


Beck is pro-military, suppported the Iraq War considers Kyle a hero and all that garbage (like Palin and Cruz). He's a neocon who absolutely supports an interventionist approach when its popular to do so

OK itshappening, and I am using your older name to spark your memory, Rand Paul has called Chris Kyle a "hero" too...

http://ericpetersautos.com/2013/02/07/rand-paul-is-not-one-of-us/

You've called me a "troll" at times because I've had issues with Rand Paul. Yet here you criticize Beck and Cruz for doing something that RAND PAUL HAS DONE.

Now, I get the arguments about compromising with the sheep. Personally, I'd rather let a soldier kill me than call him a hero or honor his "service", but then, I'm not cut out for politics. I support Rand, despite my personal frustrations with him at times. But, my criticisms have been valid. You proved it in at least one instance here.

[AuH20]

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Way too many Beck threads. That's not to say that Beck on occasion has something valuable to say. It's amusing actually. I wonder how long they can stay in character.

[eduardo89]

Way too many Beck threads. That's not to say that Beck on occasion has something valuable to say. It's amusing actually. I wonder how long they can stay in character.

Who is in character?

[eduardo89]

Way too many Beck threads. That's not to say that Beck on occasion has something valuable to say. It's amusing actually. I wonder how long they can stay in character.

Who is in character?

[fr33]

Revolution: A Manifesto or For a New Liberty: The Libertarian Manifesto would be 1000x better.

[Spikender]

This doesn't really impress me all that much.

Now I'd much rather find out what Glenn Beck had for breakfast yesterday, that would be a fiery read!

[Anti Federalist]

As long as she's got her mouth duck taped and the book is covering her face, I'd find that interesting.

*duct

[devil21]

*duct

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Just saying....

I prefer Shurtape for my tape needs. One of the few US tape brands that hasn't been offshored in any way.

http://www.shurtape.com/

[compromise]

the book is covering her face

Harsh. She's not that ugly.

[erowe1]

He's only a little hawkish on Iran. On everything else, he's now a non-interventionist. Against foreign aid, intervention in Syria and Libya and for withdrawal from Afghanistan.

You use the word "now." Does that mean you think he's changing?

[Christian Liberty]

I heard Beck openly opposing the pledge this morning, saying that every NSA official respects the flag and that that isn't America and it isn't what he's loyal too. He's got guts, if nothing else.

[erowe1]

I heard Beck openly opposing the pledge this morning, saying that every NSA official respects the flag and that that isn't America and it isn't what he's loyal too. He's got guts, if nothing else.

That sounds fishy to me. I'd like to hear or read exactly what he said if anybody can provide a link to that.

[Occam's Banana]

[Beck is] a neocon who absolutely supports an interventionist approach when its popular to do so

I am no Beck fan by a long shot - but he isn't a neocon.

For one thing, a neocon would support an interventionist approach regardless of whether it's popular to do so ...

[AuH2O]

Beck hate aside, I'm sure the Kibbe book has no promotion of going to war with Iran.

[TheGrinch]

You wanna know what Beck is, he's a whore, a snake, just like all the media hacks. His job is to be the mouthpiece for a variety of different interests, ratings being just one. Why would I take anything he says as representing his true feelings? At best, he is capitalizing on ratings from a growing market of small government advocates, but those of us who've studied the media know that there are far more conflicts of interest at play.

W told us he was a non-interventionist too, and fooled a lot of us into voting for him the first time. How'd that turn out?

Yet on one side we have those telling us to just take Beck and Cruz by their word and not their actions, history or shady connections, and on the other side refusing to acknowledge Rand's actions and instead just focus on out of context soundbytes. Integrity is what drew most of us to this movement, every bit as much if not moreso than ideology. When did some of us forget that?

That doesn't mean Beck can't till be useful, it's great that they at least have to pay us lip service to their consitents. But he is not our ally. Be ready for the inevitable efforts of co-opting, undermining, shifting, etc., that hacks like Beck and Hannity have shown no issue with doing. They've already done it once when the Tea Party stared gaining steam.

[compromise]

W told us he was a non-interventionist too, and fooled a lot of us into voting for him the first time. How'd that turn out?


Beck is not running for President.

[TheGrinch]

Beck is not running for President.

Oh okay, then I'm sure he'd have no other reason to intentionally misrepresent himself for personal gain. :rolleyes:

[Ender]

You wanna know what Beck is, he's a whore, a snake, just like all the media hacks. His job is to be the mouthpiece for a variety of different interests, ratings being just one. Why would I take anything he says as representing his true feelings? At best, he is capitalizing on ratings from a growing market of small government advocates, but those of us who've studied the media know that there are far more conflicts of interest at play.

W told us he was a non-interventionist too, and fooled a lot of us into voting for him the first time. How'd that turn out?

Yet on one side we have those telling us to just take Beck and Cruz by their word and not their actions, history or shady connections, and on the other side refusing to acknowledge Rand's actions and instead just focus on out of context soundbytes. Integrity is what drew most of us to this movement, every bit as much if not moreso than ideology. When did some of us forget that?

That doesn't mean Beck can't till be useful, it's great that they at least have to pay us lip service to their consitents. But he is not our ally. Be ready for the inevitable efforts of co-opting, undermining, shifting, etc., that hacks like Beck and Hannity have shown no issue with doing. They've already done it once when the Tea Party stared gaining steam.

Agreed.

I will never trust Beck.

The whole "Ron Paul supporters are terrorists" after the Nov the 5th momeybomb was enough for me.

[Deborah K]

Beck isn't perfect but he has a massive audience. It's possible for him to change his thinking, as we all do, and if he does change it toward a more non-interventionist approach obviously that would be a good thing. It seems like so many people are so hipster about libertarian ideas and don't want them to get popular because then they aren't cool anymore. :toady:

I tend to agree.

[angelatc]

Yet another RPFer who doesn't know the definition of neocon and through painting with such a broad brush empowers the real neocons like Jen Rubin by encouraging them that everyone is on their side.

Hawkish attitudes in the United States towards Iran go back to a desire for retaliation against the Islamic uprising in 1979 against the pro-American dictator. One of the reasons Reagan won in 1980 was because people didn't think Carter was tough enough on Iran.

But at the time Iran was holding Americans hostage. It was not some obscure political slight that only wonks trumpeted - it was 52 Americans visibly held captive for over a year.

[erowe1]

Beck hate aside, I'm sure the Kibbe book has no promotion of going to war with Iran.

+1

I haven't seen anything to tell me that Kibbe deserves to be put in the same boat as Beck.

[Ender]

But at the time Iran was holding Americans hostage. It was not some obscure political slight that only wonks trumpeted - it was 52 Americans visibly held captive for over a year.

This was in retaliation for the 1953 coup staged by Americans & Brits.

[compromise]

+1

I haven't seen anything to tell me that Kibbe deserves to be put in the same boat as Beck.

Kibbe has done far more work for the cause of liberty than 95% of people on this site.

[pcosmar]

This was in retaliation for the 1953 coup staged by Americans & Brits.

Actually,, the hostages were to prevent an attempt to forcibly reinstall the deposed Shah.

and they were ransomed with an illegal arms deal funded by Drug money.