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ItsTime
02-14-2014, 01:50 PM
Better start fighting at a local level...


President Obama’s Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is quietly activating a national license plate tracking system. It will be shared with law enforcement and allow officials to track citizens’ vehicles “from a variety of sources nationwide.”

The new system, called the “National License Plate Recognition Database,” is outlined in a PDF on the Federal Business Opportunities website.

The system will allow authorities to...

Read more: http://benswann.com/obamas-dhs-activating-national-license-plate-tracking-database/#ixzz2tKNxPEvI

LibForestPaul
02-14-2014, 07:39 PM
Fighting at a local level...hehe
Sure, right after the locales send back all the bearcats.

DamianTV
02-14-2014, 08:13 PM
The Opposite of Courage is Conformity.

Keith and stuff
02-14-2014, 08:31 PM
Fighting at a local level...hehe
Sure, right after the locales send back all the bearcats.
That's what we did in New Hampshire. In 2007 we banned widespread use of this tech. The DHS is likely going to get the vast majority of it's data from state and local databases. Thankfully, we don't have any, yet, where I live.

Nice article. I first saw it on Alex Jones so I wasn't sure. But then I noticed a lady born in NH wrote it, so I figured it's likely pretty good :toady:

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1688307_681181311925118_371692741_n.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=681181311925118&set=a.172188502824404.34847.147390698637518&type=1&theater

satchelmcqueen
02-14-2014, 11:18 PM
rfid chips?

Keith and stuff
02-14-2014, 11:57 PM
rfid chips?
Every state except New Hampshire allows police to have automatic license plate readers. They create vast databases (local and statewide) of license plates. When a license plate was where.

Paulbot99
02-15-2014, 12:30 AM
Next there will be microchips...

twomp
02-15-2014, 12:44 AM
The Opposite of Courage is Conformity.

Even a dead fish can go with the flow.

DamianTV
02-15-2014, 02:01 AM
Even a dead fish can go with the flow.

Im not quite dead yet, gimme a few more minutes! (*flop flop flounder flop*)

cbc58
02-15-2014, 08:26 AM
http://www.infowars.com/homeland-security-report-lists-liberty-lovers-as-terrorists/

LibForestPaul
02-15-2014, 08:32 AM
That's what we did in New Hampshire. In 2007 we banned widespread use of this tech. The DHS is likely going to get the vast majority of it's data from state and local databases. Thankfully, we don't have any, yet, where I live.

Nice article. I first saw it on Alex Jones so I wasn't sure. But then I noticed a lady born in NH wrote it, so I figured it's likely pretty good :toady:

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1/1688307_681181311925118_371692741_n.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=681181311925118&set=a.172188502824404.34847.147390698637518&type=1&theater

Is NH really able to fend off all the MA and CT lib influx that well? Hard to believe when they are surrounded. I really do not mind the cold (ice sucks). Might be time to move.

Keith and stuff
02-15-2014, 10:04 AM
Is NH really able to fend off all the MA and CT lib influx that well? Hard to believe when they are surrounded. I really do not mind the cold (ice sucks). Might be time to move.

The MA folks that move tend to be somewhat solid, especially during the great recession. The majority of them see how statist MA is and try to get away by moving to NH. The MA folks that move to FL/NC tend to be more statist. The MA folks that move to ME/VT/NYC are the worst. They tend to move from MA because it isn't statist enough.

It's the folks in the rest of the Northeast that are the problem. NH has the highest quality of life in the nation. It also has similarly high pay. So folks in CT/NJ/NY think wow. The quality of life is MUCH better in NH and the pay is about the same, I'll move there and my life will dramatically improve.

Less than 40% of adults living in NH were born here. MA folks have been running to safety in NH for 100s of years. Unfortunately, the secret is out. People know that living in NH is much more enjoyable than living in other states. Though, as long as we push freedom hard, we will scare statists in VT/ME/MA/RI from wanting to move here. Much of the liberty news we make in NH is rebroadcasted by the MA news sources. That scares the statists in MA/RI. Here is an example.

http://www.masslive.com/politics/index.ssf/2012/02/new_hampshire_bill_to_place_wa.html

milgram
02-15-2014, 03:48 PM
I thought the DEA already was scanning plates on interstates. I doubt they'd care about state laws.

Keith and stuff
02-15-2014, 11:35 PM
The NH bill banning widespread use of ALPRs passed in 2007. Perhaps due to federal press for NH to fall inline with the other 49 states, a bill was proposed last year to allow police departments to use ALPRs in NH. If the bill passed into law, NH would have still had the most restrictive use of any state. Thankfully, the NH House voted 250 to 97 to stop the legislation.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/1521617_666598140050102_1110726045_n.jpg
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=666598140050102&set=a.172188502824404.34847.147390698637518&type=3&theater

DamianTV
02-16-2014, 08:25 AM
I thought the DEA already was scanning plates on interstates. I doubt they'd care about state laws.

The only thing hindering their ability to have complete and total surveillance is organizing the data they collect. In a few more years, they will be more organized and it wont matter if its DHS or a mailman that scans your license plate. Id expect the Mandatory Biometric Implant by that time, if we last that long.

tangent4ronpaul
02-16-2014, 08:38 AM
Lets hope they hire the same developers who did healthcare.gov to do this system!

-t

Keith and stuff
02-16-2014, 09:09 AM
Lets hope they hire the same developers who did healthcare.gov to do this system!

-t
I am pretty mad at you right now. I just spit oatmeal on my keyboard. Thanks a lot :toady:

devil21
02-16-2014, 04:07 PM
Don't forget the designer of the plate tracking system is Palantir. Same developer of PRISM and other NSA/CIA fun tools. Complete integrated tracking grid is in the works.

DamianTV
02-16-2014, 05:39 PM
Lets hope they hire the same developers who did healthcare.gov to do this system!

-t

Healthcare website was not supposed to work. The systems in place for the NSA work "too well". Imagine if the tools the NSA uses were designed by the same developers as did the healthcare site.

Paulbot99
02-16-2014, 06:00 PM
Don't forget the designer of the plate tracking system is Palantir. Same developer of PRISM and other NSA/CIA fun tools. Complete integrated tracking grid is in the works.

I almost laughed at the irony of the name, "Palantir".

Pericles
02-16-2014, 09:38 PM
You may think they are red light cameras, but the real purpose of cameras at every intersection is this.

Suitable targets for .22LR - the real reason there is no .22LR to be had either.

Now that ^ is a conspiracy theory of the week.

devil21
02-16-2014, 11:04 PM
You may think they are red light cameras, but the real purpose of cameras at every intersection is this.

Suitable targets for .22LR - the real reason there is no .22LR to be had either.

Now that ^ is a conspiracy theory of the week.

True. They aren't very protected and a silenced 22 could do some real damage.

HOLLYWOOD
02-17-2014, 02:10 AM
The U.S. Supreme Court ruled IN 2012, that police need a court order to attach a GPS tracker to a suspect's car, but ACLU says the USA's growing network of license readers could someday allow police to do the same thing without a warrant as they tie together individual snapshots of innocent drivers' cars. Today, it's the ground version of GPS... all system are now nationally linked, all database servers, with the exception of a few cities and New Hampshire, have a complete history of every vehicle that has been snapshot by the Ir/Photo detectors. They are on LE vehicles, road signs, light poles, buildings. There is one starling fact you need to know, Maryland Fusion center/State police/ revealed they are snapshot; your license plates, your vehicle, the driver and all occupants, Location Analytics, and putting that into their databases, and recognition systems and distributed to all nationally related organizations. Mary;and's MCAC has since removed the documents and related links,


Here's another kicker, a Silicon Valley company on the west cost appears to be the vendor of choice for the ALPR's data/Datbases and to; store it, mine it, type it, categorize it, prioritize it, and track YOU. The name: Palantir Technologies, Inc.

For example, northern California/Silicon Valley selected tPalantir to provide the (NCRIC)Northern California Fusion Centers with a solution to unify ALPR data within the NCRIC’s fifteen (15) county area of responsibility (AOR) into a single, national standardized database system; and did you catch on to the company I posted? Like the NSA, they are tying in, every other enforcement federal agency... DEA, ATF, DHS, DOJ, DICE, EPIC, SOD, CIFA-DIA, (CACI, Inc), OSTP, CILEC, JPEN-TALON, Law Enforcement Information Exchange (LInX), Joint Protection Enterprise Network (JPEN), ELSAG, etc...

Now here's the kicker... Snowden's files revealed the operations going on and related companies using their technology to capture data mine, and follow targets... look at this gem:
Palantir Technologies is the CIA seeded money front company. We have covered them before and their software is used by 10,000s of government/contractors to track everyone to a minimum 3 degrees of separation.
(1) Non-specific threats;
(2) Surveillance;
(3) Elicitation;
(4) Tests of Security;
(5) Repetitive Activities;
(6) Bomb Threats/Incidents;
(7) Suspicious Activities/Incidents

Northcom centers conduct "data" mining, where information received from the NSA, the CIA, the FBI, state and local police, and the Pentagon;S talon SYSTEM are cross-checked to see if patterns develop that could indicate terrorist activities.


http://stacks.newsbound.com/aclu_plates/app/index.html#s_54
https://www.aclu.org/alpr
Learn what’s happening to your location information from this interactive slideshow:

https://d320ze5h7gg57a.cloudfront.net/files/images/natsec/alpr-slide-title-720x450-v02_0.png


NOTE: Maryland state law enforcement thought they got away with deleting their ALPR public records, but GOOGLE CACHE reveals WHY they didn't want the public to know exactly what they can and are doing with the system AND it's not just your license plate! Linked from the Maryland Coordination and Analysis Center (MCAC) this is just section 5.


V. AUTOMATIC LICENSE PLATE RECOGNITION/READER TECHNOLOGY
Automatic License Plate Recognition (ALPR), also known as License Plate Reader (LPR), provides automated detection of license plates. The LPR system consists of a high-speed camera, mounted either at a fixed location or on a mobile patrol vehicle, and a computer to convert data from electronic images of vehicle license plates into a readable format, and then compare the information against specified databases of license plates. The system attaches camera identification, date, time, and location information, to include GPS coordinates, to the digital image and it is maintained electronically in a central location to provide a means of ensuring the license plate number was properly converted. The digital image can include additional information such as:



The vehicle’s make and model;
The vehicle’s driver and passengers;
Distinguishing features (e.g., bumper stickers, damage);
State of registration

If a given plate is listed in the database, the system is capable of providing the; vehicle’s history, locations, direction of travels, and the type of infraction related to the notifications.



A splendid comment remarked from the dozens of ALPR articles in the news, which hits on all cylinders...

This is as evil as the GPS tracking. It's tantamount to stalking, and if you REALLY think it's ok - that the state can and should be trusted with increasingly enormous powers of surveillance - then brother, you don't 'get' what America is supposed to be about. You lack all adult understanding of history and human nature. Our system of government is supposed to stop tyranny by PREVENTING it, and it's a simple fact that if you build the apparatus, it will be used and abused.

America has an established history of persecuting political dissent, from the days of skull cracking 'company thugs', to the use of troops to crush strikes; from COINTELPRO during the civil rights era, up through the preventive detentions that took place against anti-police brutality activists, among others, at the 2008 RNC.

Human nature is the same as it was when our founders wisely built us a firewall against the abuse of power, most chiefly by sectioning it; NOT concentrating it, which unfortunately is the trend, accelerating steadily since 9/11.

If you honestly believe you can trust your government - ANY government - with the powers of a next generation, surveillance state, backed by history's most imposing army, well, you are frighteningly naive. This is completely unacceptable.

Keith and stuff
02-17-2014, 09:35 AM
True. They aren't very protected and a silenced 22 could do some real damage.

Though silencers are banned in a bunch of states.

ItsTime
02-17-2014, 05:00 PM
Though silencers are banned in a bunch of states.


Are they banned in NH?

devil21
02-17-2014, 06:47 PM
Though silencers are banned in a bunch of states.

Gonna go out on a limb here and say that anyone that seriously entertains the idea of plinking street cameras isn't going to concern themselves with the legality of such things.

DamianTV
02-17-2014, 07:37 PM
Though silencers are banned in a bunch of states.

People who wanted silencers banned are the same people that think what happens in Cop Dramas and Action Movies is real life.

Keith and stuff
02-17-2014, 07:46 PM
Are they banned in NH?

Not in NH but they are banned in some states. I'm not 100% which states because of conflicting info. 1 source says 11 states. Another says 17 states.

AuH20
02-19-2014, 09:51 AM
Sounds like the sphincters are tightening in globalist central. This is a sign of uneasiness on their part. Secondly, do they really expect us to believe the illegal alien canard? ROFL



http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/homeland-security-is-seeking-a-national-license-plate-tracking-system/2014/02/18/56474ae8-9816-11e3-9616-d367fa6ea99b_story.html?hpid=z2

devil21
02-19-2014, 05:54 PM
Or not....or maybe not publicly anymore.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/dhs-cancels-national-license-plate-tracking-plan/2014/02/19/a4c3ef2e-99b4-11e3-b931-0204122c514b_story.html?Post%20generic=?tid=sm_twi tter_washingtonpost


Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson on Wednesday ordered the cancellation of a plan by the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency to develop a national license-plate tracking system after privacy advocates raised concern about the initiative.

RJB
02-19-2014, 06:16 PM
I feel safer already.

Lucille
02-20-2014, 11:38 AM
Or not....or maybe not publicly anymore.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/dhs-cancels-national-license-plate-tracking-plan/2014/02/19/a4c3ef2e-99b4-11e3-b931-0204122c514b_story.html?Post%20generic=?tid=sm_twi tter_washingtonpost

Yep. They'll do what they want.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/02/20/dhs-license-plate-tracking-scheme-we-kno


Even after the cancellation, the Jennifer Lynch of the Electronic Frontier Foundation cautions:


However, DHS may still be accessing national license plate data—collected by the private company Vigilant Solutions—on an ad hoc basis. According to documents obtained by the ACLU of Massachusetts, ICE agents and other branches of DHS have been tapping into Vigilant’s data sets for years.

Whether that ad hoc access to license plate tracking involvess "the awareness of ICE leadership" is anybody's guess.

Keith and stuff
02-20-2014, 11:59 AM
Yep. They'll do what they want.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/02/20/dhs-license-plate-tracking-scheme-we-kno

That's why we have to prevent as much of the data from being created as possible. Push for no red light cameras, no speed cameras and no automatic license plate readers (mobile or stationary). Something we can personally do is not use On Star or get an EZ Pass transponder. Another thing to consider, if you use a GPS, use an aftermarket GPS like something sold on Amazon. That way, your GPS isn't connected to your car.