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twomp
02-08-2014, 03:50 AM
Rep. Mike Rogers (R-MI) has been very unhappy about the leaks by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden from the very beginning. Now the head of the powerful House Intelligence Committee has become one of several personalities at the heart of the NSA leak scandal to lash out at one of the journalists publishing stories about the documents.

“For personal gain, he’s now selling his access to information, that’s how they’re terming it," Rogers told Politico after a hearing in his committee earlier today. "A thief selling stolen material is a thief."

Rogers was apparently referring to Gua rdian reporter Glenn Greenwald, although he didn't name him. Rogers said he got the information that Greenwald was charging for stories from "other nations' press services."

Speaking on Twitter, Greenwald dismissed Rogers' claim as an attempt to instill fear among journalists who cover national security. "The main value in bandying about theories of prosecuting journalists is the hope that it will bolster the climate of fear for journalism," he wrote.

Greenwald has described his arrangements with other media that have published NSA-related stories as standard freelancing agreements in which he's paid for his journalistic help with the stories. Speaking to Politico after the hearing, Greenwald specifically denied ever selling documents.

Contacted by Ars, a spokesperson for Rogers declined to provide any evidence or make any on-the-record statement about selling documents.

During the hearing, Rogers pressed FBI Director James Comey to say Greenwald's behavior was criminal. But Comey didn't quite take the bait.

“To the best of your knowledge, fencing stolen material—is that a crime?” Rogers asked Comey.

“It would be,” Comey said. He added that it would be “complicated” in a situation if the person in question was involved in newsgathering, because of "First Amendment implications."

Comey continued: "If you’re a newspaper reporter, and you’re hawking stolen jewelry, it’s still a crime," but a journalist selling access to information would be a "harder question."

hxxp://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/02/senior-congressman-calls-greenwald-a-thief-who-sold-nsa-documents/

This is the state of our government now. Report a crime that the government is committing and you will be labeled a criminal. Fuck the 1st Amendment.

Cap
02-08-2014, 04:06 AM
Someone else said on this forum that maybe we should look a little harder into Mr. Rogers. They are right, someone doesn't get this evil over night. This guys is dirty as hell.

Bern
02-08-2014, 07:09 AM
I take consolation in the thought that Mr. Rogers is likely a paranoid dude who doesn't sleep well at night because Al Qaeda is hiding in his pillow.

Weston White
02-08-2014, 07:21 AM
What about an ethical insight comparison? Which is action is morally worse:

A) Concealing clearly unconstitutional, or at the very least highly questionable, acts against the whole of citizens within a multinational dynamic for personal gain.

B) Publishing such information evidencing unconstitutional, or at the very least highly questionable, acts against the whole of citizens within a multinational dynamic for personal gain.


Which begs the much larger and more obvious question; can information or data reflecting the actions, agendas, financial appropriations, arrangements, associations, and whatever other activities of their paid or otherwise elected representatives, having additionally been paid for by the public thereafter in fact be stolen by the public for the ultimate purpose of publicly disseminating it for overt awareness and knowledge (e.g., the government cannot itself claim copyright infringements, as they belong wholly to the public domain)?

Weston White
02-08-2014, 07:24 AM
I take consolation in the thought that Mr. Rogers is likely a paranoid dude who doesn't sleep well at night because Al Qaeda is hiding in his pillow.

Interesting, I would have guessed his sock drawer, being that under his pillow is likely where he stashes his Mr. Hankey.

Origanalist
02-08-2014, 08:45 AM
Justin Raimondo has a piece on this.

The New Dark Age
Don’t say we didn’t warn you...

by Justin Raimondo, February 07, 2014

http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2014/02/06/the-new-dark-age/

seyferjm
02-08-2014, 09:15 AM
Mike Rodgers is the uncle of a guy I know from church. For some reason he is quite proud of this fact.

kcchiefs6465
02-08-2014, 11:59 AM
Someone else said on this forum that maybe we should look a little harder into Mr. Rogers. They are right, someone doesn't get this evil over night. This guys is dirty as hell.
You don't get put on the committees for being a law abiding politician. You get put on committees depending on how much money you raise for the party in power. That tells you all you need to know. He is knee deep in MIC debt. He is, in fact, a whore.

But rest assured: democracy.

LibertyEagle
02-08-2014, 12:03 PM
Just be glad you don't have a congressman who is also on that cmte who seems to believe Rogers is God's gift. It's disgusting.

Origanalist
02-08-2014, 12:21 PM
Just be glad you don't have a congressman who is also on that cmte who seems to believe Rogers is God's gift. It's disgusting.

Don't worry LE, there's plenty of disgust to go around for everybody.

Natural Citizen
02-08-2014, 03:27 PM
Can someone point me to a paper that reflects Mr. Rogers' position on HSBC's admission of bank laundered money for terrorists and Deloitte Consulting helping Standard Charter launder money for terrorists? Only becuse...you know...I don't think anyone went to jail there.

'preciate it...:rolleyes: