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Lucille
02-04-2014, 01:41 PM
I never had a doubt.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/02/04/justice-scalia-you-are-kidding-yourself


Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia spoke yesterday at the University of Hawaii and when the subject of the Court’s notorious 1944 decision upholding the wartime internment of Japanese-Americans came up, the conservative justice had a sobering message for his law school audience. As Audrey McAvoy of the Associated Press reports:


[...] "Well of course Korematsu was wrong. And I think we have repudiated in a later case. But you are kidding yourself if you think the same thing will not happen again," Scalia told students and faculty during a lunchtime Q-and-A session.

Scalia cited a Latin expression meaning, "In times of war, the laws fall silent."

"That's what was going on — the panic about the war and the invasion of the Pacific and whatnot. That's what happens. It was wrong, but I would not be surprised to see it happen again, in time of war. It's no justification, but it is the reality," he said.

Christian Liberty
02-04-2014, 01:42 PM
Is Scalia saying HE would vote for this, or someone else?

jllundqu
02-04-2014, 01:47 PM
Oh. That's just freaking GREAT.

Teenager For Ron Paul
02-04-2014, 01:56 PM
Is Scalia saying HE would vote for this, or someone else?
The majority of the SC, it seems. I think it's clear he disagrees with internment.

klamath
02-04-2014, 01:59 PM
He speaks the truth. People ALWAY underestimate what the human response to fear of invasion and death will be. Human nature. Only fools think they can contain a war to righteousness and justice.... "We ought to kill that enemy's family. That will learn him!"

Brett85
02-04-2014, 02:08 PM
Scalia himself isn't saying that he would vote for it. He's been clear in his rulings in other cases that it's unconstitutional to indefinitely detain U.S citizens. Notice that he said this:


It's no justification, but it is the reality

phill4paul
02-04-2014, 02:26 PM
And Boobus would cheer that their freedoms were being protected.

tod evans
02-04-2014, 02:30 PM
Good God I've been asleep at the wheel again......

I take it those morons in DC have declared war?

dillo
02-04-2014, 02:46 PM
was he saying Fred Korematsu was wrong or that the decision was wrong?

donnay
02-04-2014, 02:58 PM
Not shocking at all.

MichaelDavis
02-04-2014, 03:01 PM
But...but ObamaCare must be Constitutional because the Supreme Court said so!

otherone
02-04-2014, 03:08 PM
And Boobus would cheer that their freedoms were being protected.

LOL.
Boobus' freedoms will be protected while interred at camps. The war ain't against the Japanese this time...

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Deborah K
02-04-2014, 03:08 PM
"...sobering message..." indeed.

HOLLYWOOD
02-04-2014, 04:02 PM
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JK/SEA
02-04-2014, 04:50 PM
we will have TV there?

ZENemy
02-04-2014, 04:53 PM
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Headlines like that really discredit our movement.

otherone
02-04-2014, 04:57 PM
And Boobus would cheer that their freedoms were being protected.

They don't NEED interment camps.....


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brushfire
02-04-2014, 05:05 PM
Could be a blood bath... just sayin'

Cap
02-04-2014, 05:24 PM
Headlines like that really discredit our movement.
Explain please, how this is a reflection on the liberty movement?

erowe1
02-04-2014, 07:02 PM
Headlines like that really discredit our movement.

How?

dillo
02-04-2014, 07:12 PM
Headlines like that really discredit our movement.

Thomas is the only one thats not pure authoritarian on SCOTUS, and even he has some pretty bad rulings. Scalia is a catholic zealot

Carson
02-04-2014, 07:18 PM
Something that may be being over looked with the camps.

They did provide a place to house a population that in part protected them from retribution in time of war.

Sentiment at the time my have fostered retaliation. Every weekend the papers may have been filled with stories of... you can imagine.

Anyway it may have helped focus on the enemy abroad.

DamianTV
02-04-2014, 07:22 PM
People are Disposable. The Undesirables are the ones they want to get rid of first. The families of the rich, bankers, CEOs and politicians will rarely if ever find themselve in these Interment Camps, Military, or Jails. Everyone else is just cannon fodder and bullet sponges.

klamath
02-04-2014, 07:33 PM
Something that may be being over looked with the camps.

They did provide a place to house a population that in part protected them from retribution in time of war.

Sentiment at the time my have fostered retaliation. Every weekend the papers may have been filled with stories of... you can imagine.

Anyway it may have helped focus on the enemy abroad.

For their own protection eh...:rolleyes:

pcosmar
02-04-2014, 07:39 PM
"But you are kidding yourself if you think the same thing will not happen again,"

Sounds like he knows something.

fr33
02-04-2014, 10:13 PM
Duh. Of course they would.

fr33
02-04-2014, 10:17 PM
"I wouldn’t be surprised if by the time we turn and look
Police are rounding up some religious group and burning books"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aI1x-hfVs8c

The population has already been conditioned to support it: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?443225-Of-all-the-things-BOOBUS-gets-mad-about

kcchiefs6465
02-05-2014, 12:33 AM
was he saying Fred Korematsu was wrong or that the decision was wrong?
He is speaking of the SCOTUS ruling.

In any case, I would be unsurprised to see Scalia eat his words.

There has not been -- outside of rhetoric and their sometimes one off, out of the ordinary, dissents -- a Justice that understood the Law and more importantly followed it. I'm sure a few understood it, they were just indebted to the man/prevailing attitude of the few who put them in power and/or (and it's usually a combination of both) were shortsighted/naive. A few were just downright tyrants. I would be unsurprised if a plurality jerked off to Robespierre, imagining that their plans for society would come to fruition.

oyarde
02-05-2014, 12:54 AM
I never had a doubt.

http://reason.com/blog/2014/02/04/justice-scalia-you-are-kidding-yourself
That is an honest statement , I never had any doubts ,many probably did though ... , all I have to say is this ; I will not be.