Glenn Beck agrees with Andrew Cuomo, says that social conservatives have no place in the U.S

[Brett85]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/21/glenn-beck-gays-no-place-show-country-vladimir-putin_n_4638695.html?utm_hp_ref=media


Glenn Beck said on his Monday show that anti-gay people "have no place in this country."

The talk show host was speaking once more about Russian president Vladimir Putin, who who recently sat down with ABC News' George Stephanopoulos to discuss Russia's controversial anti-gay laws and the threat this could pose on the upcoming Winter Olympic Games in Sochi. But Beck didn't just criticize Putin.

"Anybody within the sound of my voice that hates a gay person because they're gay, you have no place calling yourself a fan of mine," Beck said. "You have no place in this country."

Beck has spoken out in support of gay marriage several times before. Earlier in January, he voiced his opposition against Russia's anti-gay laws and announced that he would stand by the LGBT advocacy group GLAAD in their fight against "hetero-fascism."

"You are not a fan of mine-- you have no friendship here-- if you hate people because they're gay," Beck also added. "You have no place claiming that you're a fan of this show.... If that's who you are, I don't want to have anything to do with you."

[Tywysog Cymru]

Did he really say "hetero-fascism?"

[AuH20]

Hating someone for the condition they have been afflicted with while in the womb is not really logical. Very few chose to be gay. As far as speaking out against all these social engineering schemes that the gay community launches, that is a completely different animal.

[Brett85]

Hating someone for the condition they have been afflicted with in the womb is not really logical. Very few chose to be gay. As far as speaking out against all these social engineering schemes that the gay community launches, that is a completely different animal.

Well, that's an opinion, and those who believe that people aren't born gay should have a place in our country. What's the solution? Just deport all of the "anti gay bigots?"

[AuH20]

Well, that's an opinion, and those who believe that people aren't born gay should have a place in our country. What's the solution? Just deport all of the "anti gay bigots?"

Evangelicals believe homosexuality to be a conscious act of sinful behavior as opposed to a hormonal disorder. Based on the science and extreme social pressures associated with such classifications, I have a hard time believing that close to 10% of the population is CHOOSING to be gay or LGBT.

[Tywysog Cymru]

Hating someone for the condition they have been afflicted with while in the womb is not really logical. Very few chose to be gay. As far as speaking out against all these social engineering schemes that the gay community launches, that is a completely different animal.

I think the number of Americans who actually hate gays rather than simply disapprove of homosexuality are much lower than the media wants you to think.

[AuH20]

I think the number of Americans who actually hate gays rather than simply disapprove of homosexuality are much lower than the media wants you to think.

I have no problem with homosexuality. I do have a problem with the homosexual movement attempting to take a dominant role in our society, when the natural world repeatedly shows the contrary.

[Brett85]

Evangelicals believe homosexuality to be a conscious act of sinful behavior as opposed to a hormonal disorder. Based on the science and extreme social pressures associated with such classifications, I have a hard time believing that close to 10% of the population is CHOOSING to be gay or LGBT.

Who says they're "choosing" to be gay? Whether or not they choose to be gay, if you engage in homosexual acts, that's a choice, which is what the Bible actually says is a sin. Also, most Evangelicals don't believe that homosexuality is necessarily "a choice," but is a result of the environment in which children were raised.

[Brett85]

I think the number of Americans who actually hate gays rather than simply disapprove of homosexuality are much lower than the media wants you to think.

Well I always use the line, "love the sinner, hate the sin." But of course, the liberals believe that anyone who is morally opposed to homosexuality "hates gays" and is a homophobe. It's disappointing that Beck is repeating this same rhetoric. Very few people actually "hate gays." Most Christians simply believe that homosexual sex is a sin, just like they think that heterosexual sex outside of marriage is a sin.

[jkr]

born with FREE WILL...

there is always a choice, and it is YOURS!
the benefits are YOURS!
the consequences are YOURS!

how can anyone argue it should be any other way?

(except for the hermaphrodites, they ARE born that way, so they get a pass...)

[Tywysog Cymru]

Well I always use the line, "love the sinner, hate the sin." But of course, the liberals believe that anyone who is morally opposed to homosexuality "hates gays" and is a homophobe. It's disappointing that Beck is repeating this same rhetoric. Very few people actually "hate gays." Most Christians simply believe that homosexual sex is a sin, just like they think that heterosexual sex outside of marriage is a sin.

I am a Christian who believes that homosexuality is caused by environmental factors.

[tod evans]

No clicky linky......

Post the damn article or I'll quit opening your threads like Matts.

[Anti Federalist]

No clicky linky......

Post the damn article or I'll quit opening your threads like Matts.

Amen.

[Neil Desmond]

I disagree. This is a free country. If someone wants to be a homophobe in this country, it's their right to be that way, as long as they do it peacefully & without violating anyone else's rights. This is what tolerance is about, letting people be free to be bigots, ignorant, close-minded, stubborn, etc.

At the same time, anyone else is free to be anti-homophobe or anti-bigot for all the exact same reasons and conditions (free speech, w/o violating anyone else's rights, etc).

[cajuncocoa]

"You are not a fan of mine-- you have no friendship here-- if you hate people because they're gay," Beck also added. "You have no place claiming that you're a fan of this show.... If that's who you are, I don't want to have anything to do with you."

So Beck is OK with throwing into the woods people who may agree with him on 80-90% of other issues.

[compromise]

He's referring solely to people who hate gays because they are gay. Not all social conservatives.

[cajuncocoa]

He's referring solely to people who hate gays because they are gay. Not all social conservatives.
I know exactly what he's referring to. I wonder if he would say that about people who hate Muslims because they are Muslim. Just wondering.....

[Occam's Banana]

So Beck is OK with throwing into the woods people who may agree with him on 80-90% of other issues.

If he's serious about that quote, it's more like "100 percent of the issues minus one issue" ...

[Brett85]

He's referring solely to people who hate gays because they are gay. Not all social conservatives.

Maybe, but liberals always say that anyone who supports traditional marriage or believes that homosexuality is a sin "hates gays." So Beck should've been more clear about who he was referring to. And even if he was only referring to a few fringe people who actually hate gays, it's still not right to say that "they have no place in our country." Our country is supposed to be all about tolerating dissenting opinions.

[Legend1104]

Uhm.... actually Beck this country was founded on the idea that you are free to choose to hate who or whatever you want, as long as you don't act on that hatred in a way that infringes on those peoples rights. They actually do deserve a place in this country.

[compromise]

Maybe, but liberals always say that anyone who supports traditional marriage or believes that homosexuality is a sin "hates gays." So Beck should've been more clear about who he was referring to. And even if he was only referring to a few fringe people who actually hate gays, it's still not right to say that "they have no place in our country." Our country is supposed to be all about tolerating dissenting opinions.
He's not actually advocating deporting them or anything remotely like that. He most likely believes that society should malign these views and therefore deter these people from America.

I don't think communists have a place in this country. I'm not for rounding them up and sending them off.

[Root]

I don't understand how people can hate people the've never met.

[Brett85]

He's not actually advocating deporting them or anything remotely like that. He most likely believes that society should malign these views and therefore deter these people from America.

I don't think communists have a place in this country. I'm not for rounding them up and sending them off.

Cuomo didn't advocate rounding people up and deporting them from New York either. He just said that they have "no place in the state of New York," and Beck said that "they have no place in the United States."

[RonPaulFanInGA]

I have a hard time believing that close to 10% of the population is CHOOSING to be gay or LGBT.

It's 3.4% for gay, lesbian, bisexual and transsexual combined.

http://www.gallup.com/poll/158066/special-report-adults-identify-lgbt.aspx


I don't understand how people can hate people the've never met.

Has anyone here met George W. Bush, Barack Obama, John Bolton, Peter King, Dick Cheney, Nancy Pelosi, etc., etc.?

[brandon]

Surprised I agree with Beck on this one. I'd love to drive all the social cons into obscurity. They're pretty much my least favorite political group, except maybe black nationalists or socialists over the age of 25.

[Brett85]

Surprised I agree with Beck on this one. I'd love to drive all the social cons into obscurity. They're pretty much my least favorite political group, except maybe black nationalists or socialists over the age of 25.

Then you agree with Andrew Cuomo as well.

[Southron]

Who gave Glenn Beck the right decide who has a place in the U.S.?

[JustinTime]

Honestly... I just don't care if two dudes do each other up the butt. Its disgusting and I cant see why any man would want that when there are these things called women in the world, but seriously WHO CARES? Its not a problem for me.

[Brett85]

Honestly... I just don't care if two dudes do each other up the butt. Its disgusting and I cant see why any man would want that when there are these things called women in the world, but seriously WHO CARES? Its not a problem for me.

Yeah, but the issue is whether or not people who disagree with that should have a place in the United States.

[JustinTime]

Yeah, but the issue is whether or not people who disagree with that should have a place in the United States.

Of course they do, if they're Muslims.

[jmdrake]

Evangelicals believe homosexuality to be a conscious act of sinful behavior as opposed to a hormonal disorder. Based on the science and extreme social pressures associated with such classifications, I have a hard time believing that close to 10% of the population is CHOOSING to be gay or LGBT.

Actually there is currently no science to prove that sexuality is from the womb as opposed to a choice. None whatsoever. But since you make the claim, I'd like you to post a link to your scientific proof. And while you're add it, send your proof to the American Psychological Association which a few years ago had to back away from the "gays are born that way" position because there is no scientific consensus for it. In fact there's probably more scientific consensus for global warming and other crackpot theories.

[jmdrake]

Surprised I agree with Beck on this one. I'd love to drive all the social cons into obscurity. They're pretty much my least favorite political group, except maybe black nationalists or socialists over the age of 25.

Great. So build a coalition with the neocons like Beck. :rolleyes: The co-opting / destruction of the Ron Paul movement is officially underway.

[jmdrake]

I know exactly what he's referring to. I wonder if he would say that about people who hate Muslims because they are Muslim. Just wondering.....

You mean he'd throw himself and most of his 9-12er groups out of the country? Maybe.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Actually there is currently no science to prove that sexuality is from the womb as opposed to a choice. None whatsoever.

Honestly, I think it comes from childhood. They're not born gay, or really "choose" to be gay, I think it's how they were raised, that they had some childhood 'event(s)' that made them that way. That is where a lot of fetishes stem from as well.

[Christian Liberty]

How homosexual desires come to people probably differs based on the individual. I doubt its all one thing or another thing. Are some people born with a genetic disposition toward other men? Wouldn't surprise me. Can sexual abuse play a role? I don't doubt it. Personal choice? Probably sometimes.

Ultimately, that to me is not an excuse for the behavior. I also believe in freedom, so if two guys want to do that disgusting thing that's their choice.

I don't hate gays, I do think homosexuality is sinful though. I think there are far more people like me than people like Fred Phelps, and I'm not sure what group Beck is talking about.

[Occam's Banana]

Honestly... I just don't care if two dudes do each other up the butt. Its disgusting and I cant see why any man would want that when there are these things called women in the world, but seriously WHO CARES? Its not a problem for me.

I agree - but how is it really any different when a woman is involved? People obsess over the man-on-man variety.
But I just don't get it. Why it should be "worse" when it's man-on-man rather than man-on-woman is beyond me.
(Frankly, I fail to see the "charm" in anal sex of any kind - but I don't have a bug up my nose about it, either.)

There's nothing a man can do to another man that (1) he can't do to a woman, or (2) a woman can't do to a man.
There's nothing a woman can do to another woman that (1) she can't do to a man, or (2) a man can't do to a woman.

Given that the body parts involved are essentially the same, why do people freak out over the "****" permutations but NOT the "hetero" permutations of exactly the same act?

[Christian Liberty]

I think its obvious we all believe in freedom here, but as far as my personal morality goes, I believe that when God says, essentially in so many words, that homosexual sex is wrong, I simply accept His word as being true. So for that reason alone, I object to homosexuality, morally.

At a person level, I'm not attracted to men either, so there's that.

I don't "freak out" about homosexuality except when accompanied by advocacy for fascism or indoctrinating kids into being fascists (or, to a lesser extent, teaching kids that homosexuality is acceptable, although of course, none of these things should be "illegal") but I don't like or approve of it, or the behavior. I don't hate the sinner, but I do hate the sin.