Did Russian Spies Help Snowden? - The Blaze

[jllundqu]

Epic smear campaign underway...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/01/20/did-russian-spies-help-snowden-pull-off-nsa-leaks/


Two top U.S. lawmakers shared a common theme while making the news talk show rounds this weekend: Edward Snowden must have had help.

Mike Rogers (R-MI), Chairman of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence (HPSCI) said on NBC’s “Meet the Press” that an investigation is ongoing into whether the former NSA worker was getting instructions and assistance from another country.

“I believe there’s a reason he ended up in the hands – the loving arms – of an FSB agent in Moscow. I don’t think that’s a coincidence,” Rogers said, referring to the Russian counterintelligence service that replaced the Soviet-era KGB.

In an interview that focused on government overreach and privacy issues, Rogers described Snowden as “a thief, who we believe had some help, who stole information, the vast majority of which had nothing to do with privacy,” reported The Chicago Tribune.

“Our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines have been incredibly harmed from the data he has taken with him, and we believe now is in the hands of nation states,” Rogers said.

Former Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell backed up Rogers’ assessment, and told CBS’s “Face the Nation” that Snowden’s revelations are too sophisticated for him not to be getting some sort of guidance, possibly from the Russian government that has given him temporary asylum.

.When asked who he believes might have helped Snowden accomplish the feat – or how high up those influencers might be – Rogers kept the details light.

“There are certain questions we have to get answered…he didn’t look for information on the privacy side for Americans. He was stealing information that had to do with how we operate overseas to collect information to keep America safe.”

[pcosmar]

Epic smear campaign underway...

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Beck..
is he coming around yet?

[Lucille]

Joe McCarthy Would Be Proud: Surveillance State Functionary Rep. Mike Rogers Implies Snowden Is a Russian Spy
http://reason.com/blog/2014/01/20/surveillance-state-functionaries-lie


Americans now know for a fact that the functionaries and enablers of the domestic surveillance state will tell bald-faced lies even in sworn testimony to members of Congress who are supposed to be overseeing their activities. On Sunday, one of the bigger enablers, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) the chair of the House Intelligence Committee implied on "Meet the Press" that National Security Agency whistleblower Edward Snowden is a Russian spy. Evidence for this deadly serious assertion? None whatsoever.
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Hmmm. Innuendo is a game that anyone can play. Let's see.


"I believe there's a reason Rep. Rogers ended up in the hands - the loving arms - of the NSA bureaucracy in Washington, D.C. I don't think that's a coincidence," say I at Reason.com, referring to the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee and his wife's involvement with multi-billion contracts to sell "security" services to government agencies.

Remember the Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act (CISPA)? Before Edward Snowden made the extent of NSA domestic spying public, Rep. Rogers wrote up CISPA and the House of Represenatatives had passed it. The Electronic Frontier Foundantion explains that the CISPA bill...


...grants broad new powers, allowing companies to identify and obtain “threat information” by looking at your private information. It is written so broadly that it allows companies to hand over large swaths of personal information to the government with no judicial oversight—effectively creating a “cybersecurity” loophole in all existing privacy laws.

Is it just a coincidence that Rep. Rogers strongly favors CISPA? After all, his wife stands to benefit enormously from enabling further domestic spying by means of CISPA. Back in April, Techdirt looked into the Rogers' ties to cybersecurity firms that would benefit from the passage of CISPA:


Just last month, Rogers accidentally tweeted (and then deleted) a story about how CISPA supporters, like himself, had received 15 times more money from pro-CISPA group that the opposition had received from anti-CISPA groups....

At other times, he can't even keep his own story straight about whether or not CISPA is about giving information to the NSA (hint: it is).

Techdirt goes on to report that his wife, Kristi Clemens Rogers, now a big time "security" lobbyist, ...


...was the president and CEO of Aegis LLC a "security" defense contractor company, whom she helped to secure a $10 billion (with a b) contract with the State Department.

And it would be entirely speculative to worry that NSA may be blackmailing Rep. Rogers using information about his personal and financial life. Is there any evidence for this speculation? No, but I believe there are questions to be answered there.

Rep. Rogers' scurrilous performance brings to mind the exasperated retort of Army Special Counsel Joseph N. Welch to Tail Gunner Joe during the notorious 1954 Army-McCarthy Hearings: "Have you no sense of decency sir, at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

[ClydeCoulter]

"Oh, ermm, lookie over there!"

[Natural Citizen]

I've always wondered in the back of my head if he was a Russian spy. Scwewy.

[twomp]

I've always wondered in the back of my head if he was a Russian spy. Scwewy.
I don't know if that's sarcasm or not but IF Snowden really is a Russian spy. I'd like to thank the Russians for caring so much about our civil liberties.

[jonhowe]

I don't know if that's sarcasm or not but IF Snowden really is a Russian spy. I'd like to thank the Russians for caring so much about our civil liberties.

This. At this point the intent is moot. He has done more to help the people of this country than anyone else I can think of.

[ClydeCoulter]

Well, I see 2 ways to look at it, and I don't see a benefit to the Russians in either case.

1. Snowden blew the whistle on an unconstitutional and out of control bureaucracy.
2. Snowden leaked information that the government wanted everyone to believe, so that they would be careful and therefore stifle dissent online

I believe #1 to be more likely at this time.

[juleswin]

I was going to read it until I saw "The Blaze".

[Dianne]

LOL at Russian spies ... "Oh that's it" ... "the Russians are coming, the Russians are coming" .. Didn't we end that propaganda bullshit 30 years ago or more?

[ClydeCoulter]

Former Deputy CIA Director Michael Morell backed up Rogers’ assessment, and told CBS’s “Face the Nation” that Snowden’s revelations are too sophisticated for him not to be getting some sort of guidance, possibly from the Russian government that has given him temporary asylum.

Just who does he think creates all this stuff, Santa Claus?

[Anti Federalist]

So begins the "whisper campaign".

Stay where you are Ed.

Don't ever come back.

We don't deserve you anyway.

[fr33]

The statements by Rogers and the article by the blaze is to appeal to those people still stuck in the cold war like Liberty Eagle who are still fighting the Ruskies.

[LibertyEagle]

Rogers is the worst kind of warmonger. Just despicable.

[LibertyEagle]

Joe McCarthy Would Be Proud: Surveillance State Functionary Rep. Mike Rogers Implies Snowden Is a Russian Spy
http://reason.com/blog/2014/01/20/surveillance-state-functionaries-lie

Actually, I would imagine that Joe McCarthy would be proud of Snowden. He was a patriot; Mike Rogers isn't.

[Occam's Banana]

"We find where is Moose and Edward Snowden, Fearless Leader!"

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[LibertyEagle]

The statements by Rogers and the article by the blaze is to appeal to those people still stuck in the cold war like Liberty Eagle who are still fighting the Ruskies.

Ha ha. I also don't believe in the "we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" meme. Amazing how you can see that one, but somehow seem to believe that Communism just vaporized overnight.

Whatever makes you sleep at night, dude. :rolleyes:

[pcosmar]

but somehow seem to believe that Communism just vaporized overnight.

:
Communism never existed. Socialism Did.
And socialism was firmly entrenched here while we were fighting a fictitious enemy that never existed.

Communism has never existed outside of Philosophical ramblings and socialist fantasy.
It is another Fantasy utopia,, so contrary too human nature that it will never exist in the real world.

It is nothing but Boogieman.

[fr33]

Ha ha. I also don't believe in the "we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" meme. Amazing how you can see that one, but somehow seem to believe that Communism just vaporized overnight.

Whatever makes you sleep at night, dude. :rolleyes:
I don't care that communism didn't vaporize overnight. If someone like McCain ordered me to testify for being a libertarian I'd tell him exactly how to suck my dick just as I would if I were a communist and someone like McCarthy tried the same thing.

[AuH20]

Ha ha. I also don't believe in the "we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" meme. Amazing how you can see that one, but somehow seem to believe that Communism just vaporized overnight.

Whatever makes you sleep at night, dude. :rolleyes:

Communism was never defeated. It was just repackaged and projected mainstream over the years. Look at the Communist Manifesto and compare it to the SOP in this country. And McCarthy should have been given a monument for acting on the intelligence he received, but stumbled into something far more larger and insidious than himself. In turn, he was destroyed.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zTDvLmEBESY


This is what Eustace Mullins stated about Joseph McCarthy:


What'd you do for Joe McCarthy?

I researched and wrote material for him. Actually, I destroyed Joe McCarthy because I introduced him to the real origins of Communism, which was the international bankers. He knew nothing about that. He thought Communists were little Jewish tailors on the Lower East Side of New York.

I showed him the connections between international bankers like the Rothschilds and Communism. You can't have a worldwide movement without a lot of money behind it. It's like when the circus comes to town. You have to pay someone to hang the posters.


What are you proudest of in your life?

Getting Ezra Pound out of St. Elizabeth's, and now trying to rehabilitate Joe McCarthy. These are two of the most maligned persons of the 20th century. If I can change public thinking of these two men that I admired and loved, maybe they'll get their just desserts.


Now we understand why McCarthy was always drunk. I'd be drunk too if I had found out that my country was actively participating in such a devilish scheme.

[Spikender]

Just who does he think creates all this stuff, Santa Claus?

What I also find funny is the fact that he implies this was too sophisticated.

As a guy in the computer security field, it's not that hard to get documents like this pulled off of the wire or to tap into machines, especially if you have even limited admin credentials.

These people should not speak on things they know nothing about, but they to do that with insane frequency.

[Natural Citizen]

I don't know if that's sarcasm or not but IF Snowden really is a Russian spy. I'd like to thank the Russians for caring so much about our civil liberties.

Is just very predictable is all. I suppose that's what I was trying to say.

[AuH20]

In an interview that focused on government overreach and privacy issues, Rogers described Snowden as “a thief, who we believe had some help, who stole information, the vast majority of which had nothing to do with privacy,” reported The Chicago Tribune

Yes, that information is the only thing keeping him from a mysterious demise.

[twomp]

It's 2014 now. Glenn Beck spent all of 2013 building up his audience using our message and now its time to start returning to the arms of his masters. Let me be the first to say this in 2014. Fuck Glenn Beck!

[belian78]

It's 2014 now. Glenn Beck spent all of 2013 building up his audience using our message and now its time to start returning to the arms of his masters. Let me be the first to say this in 2014. Fuck Glenn Beck!
Yup, we have mid terms coming up this year and right after that the primary season for 2016 starts to kick in. Beck, Levin and the others that have been shoved down our throats here lately will slowly start towing the company line. Then the fake ass posters here that's been doing the shilling will 'of course be disappointed and confused by it, but willing to give them the benefit of the doubt'.

[jonhowe]

I stopped giving Beck the benefit of the doubt in 2007/8.

Get with it, folks.

[FloralScent]

Ha ha. I also don't believe in the "we are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here" meme. Amazing how you can see that one, but somehow seem to believe that Communism just vaporized overnight.

Whatever makes you sleep at night, dude. :rolleyes:


The Communists are firmly entrenched in OUR government. Joe McCarthy was right!

[Spikender]

Yeah seriously, he's a Class A charlatan.

I only thank him for turning me into an appreciator of liberty, but I left him behind long ago. He turned out to be a wolf in sheep's clothing and I'll never forget the betrayal.

[FloralScent]

Communism never existed. Socialism Did.
And socialism was firmly entrenched here while we were fighting a fictitious enemy that never existed.

Communism has never existed outside of Philosophical ramblings and socialist fantasy.
It is another Fantasy utopia,, so contrary too human nature that it will never exist in the real world.

It is nothing but Boogieman.

You're right of course. 'Communism' never existed as a real ideology, it was/is a means to subvert the monarchies/middle class to pave the way for the NWO. A testament to its success can even be found here where some 'libertarians' can't seem to shake its influence.

[Cap]

Thank God that we have Glenn Beck! We can always count on him to tell us the truth and keep the liberty movement on the straight and narrow.:rolleyes:

[AuH20]

You're right of course. 'Communism' never existed as a real ideology, it was/is a means to subvert the monarchies/middle class to pave the way for the NWO. A testament to its success can even be found here where some 'libertarians' can't seem to shake its influence.

No, Communism was very real as prosecuted by it's true believers. Tell that falsehood to the countless Hungarians and Ukrainians that were murdered. However, the caveat omitted from the history books is that the West was the hidden partner in all this. There was a portion of the U.S. actively fighting Communist influence and at the same time there were select entities strengthening and funding the Red Menace. Does anyone think that a nation with a subsistence based economy could become a world superpower relatively overnight without a LOT OF OUTSIDE HELP? Hint. hint.

[FloralScent]

No, Communism was very real as prosecuted by it's true believers. Tell that falsehood to the countless Hungarians and Ukrainians that were murdered. However, the caveat omitted from the history books is that the West was the hidden partner in all this. There was a portion of the U.S. actively fighting Communist influence and at the same time there were select entities strengthening and funding the Red Menace. Does anyone think that a nation with a subsistence based economy could become a world superpower relatively overnight without a LOT OF OUTSIDE HELP? Hint. hint.

I agree with you about the funding, but the only 'true believers' were the one's who Lenin referred to as "useful idiots". The leadership had an agenda that is still being played out but it has nothing to do with the workers paradise.

[HOLLYWOOD]

I agree with you about the funding, but the only 'true believers' were the one's who Lenin referred to as "useful idiots". The leadership had an agenda that is still being played out but it has nothing to do with the workers paradise.I've seen it all played out for quite some time now. KGB defector Yuri A. Bezmenov confirmed the plan and surprised at the acceleration happening in America. I enjoyed his comment about the so-called Socialists as the 'Useful Idiots' of the Leninist-Marxists... what he basically said was, 'they will be in denial of their failed utopian dreams and those lies orchestrated by the master Marxist leaders, denial right up to the very moment the guillotine is dropped on their necks.'

Much of the right wing fighting this NWO game has been diverted to what I call distractions, foreign entanglements/terrorism fabrifactions, secular divide, the common enemies to occupy the masses.