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Searching 4 the sound
11-29-2007, 08:28 PM
McCain in lastnights debate used 2 words that raised a question that should be Dr Paul's response to McCains absurd statement. The 2 words were "win" and "surrender". Question - win or surrender who do we treaty?

The military role in war is to secure the battlefield. Heads of State negotiate treaties.

Our military secured the battlefield all the way to Saddams palace in Baghdad. Did they not win the war?

George Bush landed on the aircraft carrier Lincoln and announced "mission accomplished". Does'nt that mean our troops won the war?

Our military captured the enemies executive military commander Saddam Hussien. Does'nt that mean they won the war?

Iraqi's held elections and established a new government. Is the war won yet?

The enemies executive military commander Saddam Hussien was executed. Can we come home now?

How can our troops not "win this thing" without surrender? How do we surrender when there is'nt anyone to surrender to? If the only authority we could surrender to has been executed and replaced by a new government yet our troops remain on the battlefield does'nt logic dictate that our troops won the war and have been abandoned on the battlefield by our own government?

Y'all understand what I'm saying?

ItsTime
11-29-2007, 08:30 PM
very valid points, welcome to the board :) wait you have been here since may haha

Searching 4 the sound
11-29-2007, 08:52 PM
First rule of campaigning is don't let your opponent frame the issues. I think we should stop using the phrase "end the war" and start using something different. Something like "bring home our abandoned troops". Whatever it is it should contain the word "abandoned".

So long as they continue to frame this issue Ron Paul is going to have to respond to them. If we reframe this issue they'll have to respond to him.

"America's hero's have been abandoned on the battlefield."