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Constitutional Paulicy
01-20-2014, 10:27 PM
http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/About/General/2014/1/17/1389952921714/Freedom-of-speech-debate--008.jpg

Freedom of speech debate sparked by draft law to ban use of 'Nazi' in Israel
Associated Press in Jerusalem
The Guardian, Friday 17 January 2014 10.10 GMT


Seven decades after the formation of the state of Israel, memories of the extermination of millions of Jews during the second world war permeate virtually every aspect of life in Israel. Public figures and interest groups frequently invoke the genocide to score political points, and the word and Nazi symbols have slipped into Israeli discourse over the years.

The bill would impose a fine of 100,000 shekels (more than £21,000) and six months in jail for anybody using the word or symbols from Adolf Hitler's Third Reich in a "wrong or inappropriate way". Educational settings would be exempt, as would certain artistic performances, said Shimon Ohayon, the bill's sponsor.

more here... http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jan/17/israel-freedom-speech-draft-law-ban-nazi

Saint Vitus
01-20-2014, 10:28 PM
Fascists.

Ender
01-20-2014, 10:31 PM
It is said that we become what we hate most.

Christian Liberty
01-20-2014, 10:33 PM
Obviously Israel is the only free country in the Middle East, so obviously the US should support them:rolleyes:

Occam's Banana
01-20-2014, 10:59 PM
I have determined that all the posters in this thread have expressed themselves in a "wrong or inappropriate way." I have further determined that this thread is not a State-approved "educational setting" and that none of the posts in this thread are "artistic performances." Therefore, you are all fined 100,000 shekels, due immediately ...

purplechoe
01-20-2014, 11:07 PM
I have determined that all the posters in this thread have expressed themselves in a "wrong or inappropriate way." I have further determined that this thread is not a State-approved "educational setting" and that none of the posts in this thread are "artistic performances." Therefore, you are all fined 100,000 shekels, due immediately ...

http://www.internetweekly.org/images/bush_money_changers.jpg

RickyJ
01-20-2014, 11:22 PM
Remember the USS Liberty. Nazis never claimed to be our allies then bomb our ship, nope, Israel did that. I will take the Nazis over Israel any day.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
01-20-2014, 11:24 PM
Dictatorial behavior, huh? Well then, Israel, Heil Hitler!

RickyJ
01-20-2014, 11:25 PM
It is said that we become what we hate most.

You have become? I live in America, and could care less what the state of Israel does as long as it doesn't negatively affect America.

RickyJ
01-20-2014, 11:29 PM
I have determined that all the posters in this thread have expressed themselves in a "wrong or inappropriate way." I have further determined that this thread is not a State-approved "educational setting" and that none of the posts in this thread are "artistic performances." Therefore, you are all fined 100,000 shekels, due immediately ...

I think one shit equals a million shekels, so you can take your 1/10 shit out of my pile of shit, enjoy!
http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/pile_of_shit.gif

RickyJ
01-20-2014, 11:37 PM
Dictatorial behavior, huh? Well then, Israel, Heil Hitler!

That is one thing I would never say. I don't know much about Hitler, and truth be told no one on this forum probably does either unless they are very old or have impeccable sources. We do know that Nazis were tortured to confess to alleged war crimes. Never mind the evidence of such crimes is lacking, getting "confessions" in such a manner is worthless as one of the tortured prisoners stated he would have confessed to anything to stop the torture.

Christian Liberty
01-20-2014, 11:42 PM
Remember the USS Liberty. Nazis never claimed to be our allies then bomb our ship, nope, Israel did that. I will take the Nazis over Israel any day.

OK, hthat might be a bit much. I'd rather live in Israel than Nazi Germany. But we never called Nazi Germany "the only free nation in Europe" or gave them billions of dollars worth of stolen money either.

That is one thing I would never say. I don't know much about Hitler, and truth be told no one on this forum probably does either unless they are very old or have impeccable sources. We do know that Nazis were tortured to confess to alleged war crimes. Never mind the evidence of such crimes is lacking, getting "confessions" in such a manner is worthless as one of the tortured prisoners stated he would have confessed to anything to stop the torture.

Links to Nazis being tortured? If that's true I didn't know that.

juleswin
01-20-2014, 11:56 PM
Links to Nazis being tortured? If that's true I didn't know that.

Ilse Koch for one was regularly raped while she was awaiting trial in the allies detention centers that she was visibly pregnant by the time of her trial. And no, she wasn't getting conjugal visits

RickyJ
01-21-2014, 12:03 AM
Links to Nazis being tortured? If that's true I didn't know that.

I am not sure what you would consider a good source, I have many, but I will give you one of the most recent ones that is also part of the established media.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223831/How-Britain-tortured-Nazi-PoWs-The-horrifying-interrogation-methods-belie-proud-boast-fought-clean-war.html

Ender
01-21-2014, 12:11 AM
You have become? I live in America, and could care less what the state of Israel does as long as it doesn't negatively affect America.

You live in your cellar? What Israel does affects Americans quite a bit.

And, FYI, I don't hate anyone.

alucard13mm
01-21-2014, 12:45 AM
Since the word Nazi is banned.. does it mean we can forget about what Nazis did to them? Or is that part still included?

Intersting how a word gets them all jittered up.

RickyJ
01-21-2014, 12:48 AM
Since the word Nazi is banned.. does it mean we can forget about what Nazis did to them? Or is that part still included?

Intersting how a word gets them all jittered up.

A certain name being uttered also causes them great distress, "Jesus Christ" the Son of God.

jonhowe
01-21-2014, 12:59 AM
A certain name being uttered also causes them great distress, "Jesus Christ" the Son of God.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=kHjvkbjOiz0

PRB
01-21-2014, 03:41 AM
Just keeping up with the Germans
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strafgesetzbuch_§_86a

The economist
01-21-2014, 07:21 AM
Fascists!

The fascists of the future will call themselves anti-fascists

Origanalist
01-21-2014, 07:59 AM
Links to Nazis being tortured? If that's true I didn't know that.

There was plenty of guilt on both sides, the winner always writes the history.

Ronin Truth
01-21-2014, 11:52 AM
Is there a fine for saying "national socialist"?

JoshLowry
01-21-2014, 12:25 PM
Inaccurate headline... No?

"The Knesset gave preliminary approval to the measure on Wednesday, but it has to pass three more readings and committee discussions before becoming law."

Have a little hope?

Legislation is often introduced to the US congress but does not pass.

ZENemy
01-21-2014, 12:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=puM1eT15NYw

PRB
01-21-2014, 12:31 PM
Links to Nazis being tortured? If that's true I didn't know that.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361748/
http://www.amazon.com/Nazi-Hunter-The-Wiesenthal-File/dp/184119607X
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2223831/How-Britain-tortured-Nazi-PoWs-The-horrifying-interrogation-methods-belie-proud-boast-fought-clean-war.html
http://www.rense.com/general88/after.htm

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01-21-2014, 12:44 PM
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Paulbot99
01-21-2014, 06:51 PM
Wow. What Nazis.