Social media pillory notorious Obama apologist

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http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/representing-settlement-sodastream.html

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/scarlett.html

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Looks like she might be done, although the headline about MSM seems bit exaggerated.

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Update: ‘Blood bubbles’ — mainstream media turn on SodaStream and Scarlett Johansson

Annie Robbins (http://mondoweiss.net/author/annie) on January 22, 2014 67 (http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/scarlett-johansson-eyebrow.html#comments)
“Set the bubbles free! Palestinians can wait…” (graphic: Stephanie Westbrook (@stephinrome)



Update: Oxfam Great Britain’s (http://www.oxfam.org/) CEO, Mark Goldring, responding to inquiries about the NGO’s relationship with SodaStream’s new ‘global ambassador’ Scarlett Johansson, has stated in an email:
“Oxfam is opposed to trade from Israeli settlements, in which Sodastream is engaged. Israeli settlements are illegal under international law and have a devastating effect on the lives and livelihoods of the Palestinian communities that Oxfam works with. Trade with businesses operating in settlements exacerbates the ongoing poverty and denial of Palestinians’ rights that Oxfam addresses in its work.
“We have made our concerns known to Ms. Johansson and we are now engaged in a dialogue on these important issues. “
SodaStream is suddenly facing widespread criticism in the media for making its seltzer devices in the occupied West Bank. The day after we published Rachele Richards jaw-dropping graphic of Scarlett Johansson drenched in red (http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/representing-settlement-sodastream.html) with sparkling bubbles in the background New York Magazine published Kat Stoeffel’s brand-slaying piece, “SodaStream: Guilt-Free Seltzer or Blood Bubbles?” (http://nymag.com/thecut/2014/01/sodastream-guilt-free-seltzer-or-blood-bubbles.html)
Did someone say “blood bubbles” at a cocktail party in NYC? Those East Coast lefties are harsh! Stoeffel:
I was in the kitchen, overseeing eggnog, and I handed my co-host a bottle of seltzer made for the occasion with my SodaStream countertop carbonator. He’s the one who told me what happened next.
“Enjoy your Palestinian blood cocktails,” the left-wing reporter said to the vodka drinkers.

Since Stoeffel’s piece, and the crucial highbrow gossip, the media (TopNewsToday (http://technology.topnewstoday.org/technology/article/9561619/)) is beginning to sit up straight over the SodaStream controversy. And while SodaStream won’t address (http://english.alarabiya.net/en/News/2014/01/21/Boycott-of-Israel-s-SodaStream-may-affect-Palestinian-workers.html) any possible connection between its plunging stock (http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/scarlett-dropped-yesterday.html) and the boycott of settlement goods, financial writers (http://www.fool.com/investing/general/2014/01/18/there-are-cracks-in-sodastreams-growth-story.aspx) are scrutinizing the stock left and right. Wall Street Cheat Street issued a cautionary warning: SodaStream Bubbles Are More Controversial Than They Appear (http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/caution-sodastream-bubbles-are-more-controversial-than-they-appear.html/?a=viewall), and CNN Money asks Boycotting SodaStream: Righteous protest or empty gesture? (http://features.blogs.fortune.cnn.com/2014/01/21/sodastream-boycott/)
FORTUNE — Boycotting businesses for political reasons is often a complicated affair. There are always trade-offs. Take SodaStream (SODA (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=SODA)), for example. The company’s home-carbonation gizmos reduce pollution and enable people to avoid buying bottles and cans of unhealthy soda from giant corporations like Coca-Cola (KO (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=KO)) and PepsiCo (PEP (http://money.cnn.com/quote/quote.html?symb=PEP)).
For those reasons, SodaStream is especially popular among socially conscious types. But now many of those people are learning that the product’s maker isn’t some little hippie-run outfit based in Taos, N.M., or Burlington, Vt., but is in fact an Israeli firm that has a manufacturing plant in the occupied West Bank, and so has been deemed a purveyor of “blood bubbles.”

Ynet’s Business and Finance (http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-4479689,00.html) section says SodaStream’s success has been “overshadowed by a political cloud, which is threatening” to both the company and their spokesperson, Johansson. It cites Stoeffel’s piece, and includes quotes from Henry Norr and Ali Gharib.
The UK’s Daily Mail is all over it (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2543643/Controversy-fizzes-SodaStream-use-factories-West-Bank-just-Scarlett-Johansson-signs-companys-global-ambassador.html) with a fat headline:
Controversy fizzes up around SodaStream over their use of factories in the West Bank just as Scarlett Johansson signs on to be the company’s first global ambassador

And everybody’s favorite fishwrap, that bastion of integrity the NY Post (http://nypost.com/2014/01/21/scarlett-johansson-stands-tall-against-israel-boycotters/), championed Johansson: “instead of answering BDS jeers, she simply said she loves the brand” (Free Beacon (http://freebeacon.com/scarjo-rejects-anti-israel-boycott/) and Breitbart (http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2014/01/21/scarjo-wont-ditch-sodastream-israel) repeat the statement). Hmm, really? I thought she said that before the jeers started. Seriously, has anyone heard a peep out of Scarlett since this controversy erupted after the announcement (http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/johansson-sodastream-palestinians.html) of her global ambassadorship of SodaStream? Because last we heard, mum’s still the word (http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/representing-settlement-sodastream.html) from Scarlett.
Bottom line, despite efforts (http://www.haaretz.com/blogs/routine-emergencies/.premium-1.569140) by Haaretz to characterize the SodaStream controversy as no big deal, this is not a non issue. Maybe the average Joe in Kansas has not heard of SodaStream or the boycott against it. But among the hipsters and the activist and the simply well-informed, everyone now knows SodaStream is controversial. Everyone.
And though the “blood bubbles” team has the bucks to hire film crews to promote lies about the occupation (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/07/2013711145016751282.html), boycotters have the web, pro bono graphic artists (http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/representing-settlement-sodastream.html), and word of mouth. And every dollar spent on promoting SodaStream is now boosting the exposure of this apartheid product, making it an international target for raising awareness. Superbowl anyone? It’s game on.

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/scarlett-johansson-eyebrow.html





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Monday, January 13th, 2014
Scarlett Johansson: Super Bowl Apartheid Pitch Woman?

Scarlett Johansson for SodaStream: ‘Set the bubbles free’ but keep the Palestinians bottled in Area A

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2014/01/13/scarlett-johansson-super-bowl-apartheid/

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I don't get it. If the manufacturing plant is located in the west bank; does it not employ Palestinians and bring money into the region?


Sort of like as slave labor camps bring money into a concentration camp? Or like some companies employ people in a prison? Except that in this case crime of the prisoner being of the non-chosen race.

But main issue is enabling/supporting/legitimizing occupation and oppression of a people because they are of the wrong race or not of the preferred race.

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Sort of like as slave labor camps bring money into a concentration camp? Or like some companies employ people in a prison? Except that in this case crime of the prisoner being of the non-chosen race.

But main issue is enabling/supporting/legitimizing occupation and oppression of a people because they are of the wrong race or not of the preferred race.

I was not aware that they forced people to work there! That is horrible. Can you cite a source for that? It is your opinion that these people would be better off without jobs or a manufacturing base in their hometown?

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I was not aware that they forced people to work there! That is horrible. Can you cite a source for that? It is your opinion that these people would be better off without jobs or a manufacturing base in their hometown?

When you kick in few crumbs of bread to a person starving inside a prison cell, will you be forcing them to eat or will they be eating with their own volution?

Are you aware they are occupied by force and living in open air prison ? I can cite sources in case needed but thought was universally accepted fact.

I think you are confusing main issue.

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When you kick in few crumbs of bread to a person starving inside a prison cell, will you be forcing them to eat or will they be eating with their own volution?

Are you aware they are occupied by force and living in open air prison ? I can cite sources in case needed but thought was universally accepted fact.

I think you are confusing main issue.

I'm not confusing anything. Are the employees of this company complaining about their treatment? The people pushing this "boycott" want to take away jobs from people already in poor conditions. I didn't realize the palestinians are trapped there in a prison and could not emigrate elsewhere. Where did all the many tens of thousands of them in the US come from? Did they all sneak out of that open air prison in the dark of night past the guarddogs and high fences?

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I'm not confusing anything. Are the employees of this company complaining about their treatment? The people pushing this "boycott" want to take away jobs from people already in poor conditions. I didn't realize the palestinians are trapped there in a prison and could not emigrate elsewhere. Where did all the many tens of thousands of them in the US come from? Did they all sneak out of that open air prison in the dark of night past the guarddogs and high fences?


Many German Jews were able to emigrate to Palestine/US and other places in earlier part of 20th century, does that mean they had freeedom in Germany of early 1900s.

Let me clarify my basic assumption before we argue about morality/liberty/basic rights issues involved here that I'm going by.

Do you believe Palestinians are occupied or free currently? Do they have freedom of movement and basic human rights?

It would be productive discussion if we are clear about our stances and meaning of terms being used.

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Why don't you tell me, since you seem to know. Are they forced to stay in the west bank or can they move elsewhere? What the hell is a human right? The only rights you have in my view are those which you can keep others from taking via force or alliance.

You also didn't answer my question. Are the employees of this company complaining about their treatment? If not, how do you know they aren't treated better than by any other business in the west bank? Why do you want to take jobs away from poor people?


Palestinian people are occupied, oppressed and being denied basic human rights. They are victims of ethnic cleansing, their land is being stolen and then leased/sold to religios fanatic/profiteers of chosen races at much cheaper rates.
A starving person getting few crumbs of bread kicked in by his jailors maybe the best meal of they day for them but that does not change the immorality of imprisoning people based on racially motivated ideologies and then using them as cheap labor.

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Palestinian people are occupied, oppressed and being denied basic human rights. They are victims of ethnic cleansing, their land is being stolen and then leased/sold to religios fanatic/profiteers of chosen races at much cheaper rates.
A starving person getting few crumbs of bread kicked in by his jailors maybe the best meal of they day for them but that does not change the immorality of imprisoning people based on racially motivated ideologies and then using them as cheap labor.

You keep ignoring the questions, guess we are done here. You want already poor people to lose their jobs. You accuse their employer of using prison labor and giving them crumbs; yet don't seem to actually have any knowledge of how they are treated.

I on the otherhand; recognize that bringing money, investment and capital into the region has a better chance of improving their lives than chasing business away does.

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You keep ignoring the questions, guess we are done here. You want already poor people to lose their jobs. You accuse their employer of using prison labor and giving them crumbs; yet don't seem to actually have any knowledge of how they are treated.

I on the otherhand; recognize that bringing money, investment and capital into the region has a better chance of improving their lives than chasing business away does.

I thought I did answer the question, "treatment of emplyess" is not the topic of this discussion, is moot point and does not matter if economic conditions of the oppressed get slightly better while the oppressor gets richer and expands the land theft scheme further.

They can't be traeted too well or why you think WTC1/2/7 fell down?

The issue is much bigger than "treatment of employees" who are a tiny crossection of occupied people.
You never answered a very simple question that was asked to understand your definition of liberty and freedom of movement.

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http://i.imgur.com/FSzbiTs.jpg

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I thought I did answer the question, "treatment of emplyess" is not the topic of this discussion, is moot point and does not matter if economic conditions of the oppressed get slightly better while the oppressor gets richer and expands the land theft scheme further.

The employees you want to harm by forcing their employer to relocate or downsize are moot in this discussion? Wow, you really do hate poor Palestinians with jobs. Your problem is with who owns the company? So if the company was Palestinian owned, it would be all ok then?



You never answered a very simple question that was asked to understand your definition of liberty and freedom of movement.
Yes I did. I was very clear. Here you go:

The only rights you have in my view are those which you can keep others from taking via force or alliance.

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Actually it's no longer circular argument. And there is interesting linear chart to prove it:

Even Star Johansson Can't Help SodaStream as Stock Sinks 26% (http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-01-14/even-star-johansson-can-t-help-sodastream-as-stock-sinks-26-1-.html)
www.bloomberg.com/.../even-star-johansson-can-t-hel...‎Bloomberg L.P.
Jan 14, 2014 - The home-soda machine maker plunged 26 percent in its first day of trading after saying it tapped Hollywood actress Scarlett Johansson for a ...


Just deleted any movies of Scalett J. from netflix queue.

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Just deleted any movies of Scalett J. from netflix queue.

I just added a few to mine. Man, I haven't seen ghost world in years, that'll be fun to see again. And eight-legged freaks; that was a good one too, haven't seen that since the theatres. I recall that conspiracy nut being pretty humorous.

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E, I think the problem is not that they employ Palestinians in Palestine. It's that they likely stole the land they put the factory on. It's not Israeli territory, yet Israel just builds whatever Israel wants where ever Israel wants it.

Adding the celebrity face certainly provided a catalyst for the message of the boycott to go mainstream. I hadn't heard of it until now.

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E, I think the problem is not that they employ Palestinians in Palestine. It's that they likely stole the land they put the factory on. It's not Israeli territory, yet Israel just builds whatever Israel wants where ever Israel wants it.

Adding the celebrity face certainly provided a catalyst for the message of the boycott to go mainstream. I hadn't heard of it until now.


You are exatcly right.. and they can grab more land and change "realities on the ground" so it can no longer be returned to Palestinians in any future freedom "peace talks", their job is done.


Scarlett Johansson: 'No Guilt' About SodaStream
..it is located a 10-minute drive from Jerusalem in an industrial park next to one of the largest settlement blocs — Ma’aleh Adumim — which will likely be incorporated into Israel in any future deal. But it does exploit the commercial benefits of its location, essentially profiting from occupation, and contributes (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2013/07/2013711145016751282.html) to the slow closing of the E1 corridor that is necessary for the contiguity of a future Palestinian state.

The fact is that the Israeli government makes land beyond the Green Line cheaper. Recent reports (http://www.molad.org/articles/%D7%94%D7%94%D7%AA%D7%A0%D7%97%D7%9C%D7%95%D7%99%D 7%95%D7%AA-%D7%95%D7%9E%D7%A6%D7%95%D7%A7%D7%AA-%D7%94%D7%93%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A8) place discounts on the purchase of real estate across the Green Line as high as 69% compared to inside Israel proper, a fact SodaStream is taking full advantage of.

As if this weren’t enough, Whoprofits.org (http://whoprofits.org/content/about-project), a project that researches and exposes “the commercial involvement of Israeli and international companies” in the occupation, investigated the company. On top of the property tax breaks, they report (http://whoprofits.org/sites/default/files/WhoProfits-ProductioninSettlements-SodaStream.pdf) that SodaStream exploits its workers, and has been found to fraudulently use a “Made in Israel (http://www.globalexchange.org/economicactivism/sodastream/why)” label on its products.

Read more: http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thinking/190881/scarlett-johansson-no-guilt-about-sodastream/ (http://blogs.forward.com/forward-thinking/190881/scarlett-johansson-no-guilt-about-sodastream/#ixzz2qtk5TXwd)

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I found this:
http://www.cameraoncampus.org/blog/misguided-sodastream-protestors-at-american-university/
That hardly sounds like a factory that needs to be demonized.

And from the original source (an arab publication)
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/originals/2013/01/pride-and-embarrassment--at-the.html



Nevertheless, we are building bridges between us and the Palestinian population, and we provide our Palestinian employees with respectable employment opportunities and an appropriate salary and benefits. We “even” purchase medical insurance for them from a private Israeli company, because I am not confident that the money we pay to the Palestinian Authority for such social benefits will actually be used for medical insurance.


and like I said:


I’m proud of that. I want people to finally realize that we’re talking about people and that peace is possible, despite the politicians. If there were another hundred companies like us extending a hand to the other side, we would have a peace agreement, because everybody wants it, including the Palestinians."

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I found this:
http://www.cameraoncampus.org/blog/misguided-sodastream-protestors-at-american-university/

excerpts:






That hardly sounds like a factory that needs to be demonized.

Advocates of boycott, divestment and sanctions (BDS) were fortunately given the opportunity to reply. "In the absence of global and international political pressure for Israel to abide by international law, BDS hopes to use nonviolent pressure to get Israel to stop the occupation," said Kristin Szremski of the Interfaith Boycott Committee (a project of the US Campaign to End the Israeli Occupation (http://www.endtheoccupation.org/)). "The boycott of SodaStream felt like it was a great opportunity to raise awareness about settlements and thwart SodaStream's effort to get into the American market."

Szremski called the argument that boycotting SodaStream could hurt the livelihood of Palestinians "a way to obfuscate" the issue. "The point is not just to make SodaStream go out of business," she told JTA. "Were there no settlements to begin with, Palestinians could be working their own lands. The fact that a worker goes to work every day does not indicate that it is a good thing."

We'd like to hear what these 900 Palestinian employees have to say for themselves. We wonder how many of them indeed are the descendents of those displaced from their family or village lands in 1948 or since 1967—whose parents or grandparents may have had a dignified and self-sufficient life growing olives or citrus or grazing livestock. We wonder how they feel about their employers' green image, given that the company profits from the occupation that maintains itself through the torching of ancient olive groves (http://ww4report.com/node/5418), the theft of Palestinian farmlands (http://ww4report.com/105/palestine/jayyous) and water (http://ww4report.com/node/7868), that polluties farmlands with sewage (http://ww4report.com/node/11910#comment-450061) and intentionally poisons grazing fields (http://ww4report.com/node/1144).

But it gets better. Corporate Watch (http://www.corporatewatch.org/?lid=4531) website informs us that the SodaStream plant is in the Mishor Adumim industrial zone that rings the Ma'ale Adumim settlement bloc—that at issue in the current controversial E1 Corridor (http://ww4report.com/node/11871) expansion plan which has occassioned much protest. This project, ostensibly aimed at linking Ma'ale Adumim to Jerusalem, would actually cut the West Bank off from the city though a new strategic settlement corridor—virtually destroying any prospect of a viable Palestinian state. The Israeli government supports the growth of industry on these illegally occupied lands through special tax incentives, and lax enforcement of environmental and labor laws east of the Green Line.

Ma'ale Adumim was itself built on land stolen from the Palestinian villages of Abu Dis, al-Izriyyeh, al-Issawiyyeh, al-Tur, Khan al-Ahmar and Anata, its construction causing the eviction of many the Jahalin Bedouin (http://jahalin.org/) people (who had settled there after being evicted from their traditional lands in the Negev Desert in 1948). Construction of the E1 Corridor would mean the eviction of yet more Bedouin communities (http://ww4report.com/node/10742).

In response to the boycott, SodaStream has issued a bulletin (PDF (http://corporateoccupation.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/sodastream-bulletin.pdf)) telling potential customers to "PLEASE BE AWARE THAT BDS IS A POLITICALLY-ORIENTATED MOVEMENT." (Yes, of course demanding Palestinian dignity is inherently "political," as it concerns human power relations. So?) The bulletin also brandishes the weasily argument that Mishor Adumim is not on occupied land as Area C is "disputed," not occupied. (International law makes no such distinction, and neither do the Oslo Accords that established the administrative "areas.") It also asserts that Article 49 of the Fourth Geneva Convention (http://www.icrc.org/ihl.nsf/COM/380-600056?OpenDocument), barring exploitation of labor by occupying powers, is not applicable to Israeli settlements.

The Code Pink (http://www.codepink4peace.org/section.php?id=470) and the SodaStream Boycott (http://www.sodastreamboycott.org/) pages cut through this particularly noxious example of corporate greenwashing:


SodaStream markets itself as an environmentally friendly product…but there is nothing friendly about the destruction of Palestinian life, land and water resources! ..SodaStream is an Israeli corporation that produces all of its carbonation devices in an illegal settlement in the West Bank. All Israeli settlements exist in direct contravention to international law! This settlement company obscures its true illegal origin by marking its products "Made in Israel", however "made in an illegal Israeli settlement" is more like it.
But none of this was noted by Advertising Age in its coverage of the Super Bowl ad getting deep-sixed, nor that from the Jewish press (e.g. Algemeiner (http://www.algemeiner.com/2012/12/05/israels-sodastream-will-buy-super-bowl-ad-video/)) crowing about the ad before it was axed. If only the Palestinians mattered in the grand scheme of things as much as Coke and Pepsi. Fortunately, the Swedish dock-workers union has pledged (http://ww4report.com/node/8876) not to unload SodaStream's products. A good start.

http://www.ww4report.com/node/12008

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Ok, then by their own words the land is "disputed."


In response to the boycott, SodaStream has issued a bulletin (PDF (http://corporateoccupation.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/sodastream-bulletin.pdf)) ......The bulletin also brandishes the weasily argument that Mishor Adumim is not on occupied land as Area C is "disputed," not occupied.


I don't really care one way or the other about Israel. But I don't pretend they grab land on the West Bank.

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What is going on..these pohotos/chart can't be pasted but these are pretty shocking:


http://f8wee1vvia32pdxo527grujy61.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/Screen-shot-2014-01-24-at-11.36.22-AM-580x261.png

http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/scarlett-oxfam-palestinian.html


(http://mondoweiss.net/2014/01/scarlett-oxfam-palestinian.html)

The employees you want to harm by forcing their employer to relocate or downsize are moot in this discussion? Wow, you really do hate poor Palestinians with jobs. Your problem is with who owns the company? So if the company was Palestinian owned, it would be all ok then?


Yes I did. I was very clear. Here you go:


If in Germany of early 20th century, Jews were walled inside ghettos, occupied, oppressed and then some German company opened factory inside the poverty stricken camps to exploit cheap land/labor and "help employees", will you support that German company and buy their products?


This question was not that hard to answer, not sure why you can't answer it.


Do you believe Palestinians are occupied or free currently? Do they have freedom of movement and basic human rights?

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I don't get it. If the manufacturing plant is located in the west bank; does it not employ Palestinians and bring money into the region?

Could be, but if they get liberated, it would hurt Israeli economy.



Israeli minister: Freedom for Palestinians will destroy Israeli economy

Even if one overlooks the immorality of it and a disgusting display of anti-semitism towards occupied Palestinian semites by this fascist oppression profiteer, does he not care about Trillions of dollars in costs to US economy from occupation of Palestinians (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1bm2GPoFfg&list=PLfrlsC1yJ2dQKDacCMb8ywjMCsKgZLjK8&index=1) or groping of private parts of Americans in a fear centric Police State like theirs (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?435179-Does-majority-of-Americans-support-or-oppose-Freedom-for-Palestinians&p=5336316&viewfull=1#post5336316)?


Bennett: Palestinian state will destroy Israeli economy

Israel need not fear boycotts, having survived them before, economy minister tells Habayit Hayehudi Knesset faction.

By Zvi Zrahiya (http://www.haaretz.com/misc/writers/zvi-zrahiya-1.695) | Jan. 21, 2014 | 6:20 PM | http://www.haaretz.com/images/icons/comment.png 32


The creation of a Palestinian state would destroy the Israeli economy, causing infinitely more problems than an economic boycott (http://www.haaretz.com/misc/tags/BDS%20Movement-1.502839) would, said Economy Minster Naftali Bennett on Monday, responding to the threat of sanctions if Israel fails to reach an agreement with the Palestinians.
Addressing his Habayit Hayehudi Knesset faction, Bennett called on Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to stand up to pressure to reach an agreement that would lead to a Palestinian state. Bennett complained that a media campaign had begun in recent days asserting that if Israel does not agree to a Palestinian state and divide Jerusalem, it would face heightened economic pressure.
“I declare here and now that the truth is just the opposite,” said Bennett. “A Palestinian state will wreck Israel’s economy.”
Concerns about boycotts and divestments increased this week after reports that three leading European pension funds were weighing selling their shares (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.569507) in Israeli banks out of concern they were helping to finance settlement construction in the West Bank. Two weeks earlier, the Dutch pension fund PGGM divested its shares (http://www.haaretz.com/news/diplomacy-defense/.premium-1.567548) in Israel’s five biggest banks for that reason.

http://www.haaretz.com/business/1.569789

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If in Germany of early 20th century, Jews were walled inside ghettos, occupied, oppressed and then some German company opened factory inside the poverty stricken camps to exploit cheap land/labor and "help employees", will you support that German company and buy their products?


This question was not that hard to answer, not sure why you can't answer it.


Seems like this is a question that has answers of "bad" and "worse."

Using your example above, if a boycott causes the German factory to close and thereby causes most of the ghetto inhabitants to die, would you really consider it a win?

If the factory is built on stolen land, that's clearly bad. But I really don't see how tossing hundreds of previously employed people out on the street is going to help things get better in the near term.

What I would REALLY like to see is the numbers on how many of the employees are Palestinian and how many are Israeli. And are the salaries equal, and how do said salaries compare with the cost of living in the area?

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