Kelly Thomas case: Ex-officer Cicinelli wants his job back

[moostraks]

A day after being found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter and excessive force in the death of Kelly Thomas, Jay Cicinelli told the Orange County Register he wants to return to his former job and will take the legal steps necessary to try to make that happen...

The former corporal will state his case in front of an arbitrator, who will then make a recommendation to the city on whether to hire him back, he said. A lawsuit is a possible if arbitration is unsuccessful...

“I was wrongfully terminated. How do you argue with a jury of 12 who all agree on the same thing?” he said. “They sat through the whole trial and heard all the facts.”
He also cited the trial testimony of Fullerton Cpl. Stephen Rubio, his training officer, who testified that Cicinelli’s actions during the struggle with Thomas were within department policy.http://www.ocregister.com/articles/cicinelli-597262-thomas-officer.html

He thinks what he did was fine. He believes the jury has proven his position that his use of force was fine. So what do you think he will be like next time?

[phill4paul]

And he will get it. With back pay.

[HOLLYWOOD]

Yep... someone in the other thread called this... but not so fast. Time for a Civil Lawsuit for wrongful death.

[JK/SEA]

I'm going on record knowing LEO is reading comments in here.

Being a coward, throwing your humanity away, throwing your honor away, violating your oath to the U.S. Constitution will not be ignored by the people who pay these evil people a wage to exercise their disdain for average citizens in this country.

The Laws of this land will win out eventually, and because of these 'infractions' towards taxpayers, justice will come. A judge will rule, and if this fails... his name is God, and you will be held accountable for your inhumanity.

[RickyJ]

And he will get it. With back pay.

He might, but I think he is dead before the year is out. Dumb ass doesn't know how to go into hiding and will soon be 6 feet under.

[moostraks]

He might, but I think he is dead before the year is out. Dumb ass doesn't know how to go into hiding and will soon be 6 feet under.

Ya think? I don't know. I have known a few violent individuals who walk proud today with no true repercussions. I think he might inflict more damage and unravel on his own as his ego is quite evident in his positions taken in the article. He really thinks he has been vindicated and has done NO wrong. Unbelievable...

[SeanTX]

He might, but I think he is dead before the year is out. Dumb ass doesn't know how to go into hiding and will soon be 6 feet under.

Nothing will happen to him -- from what I recall he's been coaching little league and working as a security guard since getting fired. He knows nobody cares enough to do anything to him, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he's been getting special police protection just in case.

[RickyJ]

Nothing will happen to him -- from what I recall he's been coaching little league and working as a security guard since getting fired. He knows nobody cares enough to do anything to him, and I wouldn't be surprised to hear that he's been getting special police protection just in case.

That could be because people thought there would be justice in this case. Now that there has been no justice and this is going viral on facebook, he is a target.

[VoluntaryAmerican]

Ya think? I don't know. I have known a few violent individuals who walk proud today with no true repercussions. I think he might inflict more damage and unravel on his own as his ego is quite evident in his positions taken in the article. He really thinks he has been vindicated and has done NO wrong. Unbelievable...

He will just smash the camera next time. Gotta be careful these days.

[JK/SEA]

That could be because people thought there would be justice in this case. Now that there has been no justice and this is going viral on facebook, he is a target.

just be warned. LEO is reading social media for threats. Veiled or direct.

[FrankRep]

He will just smash the camera next time. Gotta be careful these days.

The camera evidence helped the police officers' defense. The police likely would have been found guilty without the video.

[RickyJ]

Ya think? I don't know. I have known a few violent individuals who walk proud today with no true repercussions. I think he might inflict more damage and unravel on his own as his ego is quite evident in his positions taken in the article. He really thinks he has been vindicated and has done NO wrong. Unbelievable...

The difference here and the OJ Simpson case is that this was all caught on tape, there is no plausible deniability here, everyone can see exactly what happened. This is going viral on Facebook right now, much more than when it first happened.

[aGameOfThrones]

That could be because people thought there would be justice in this case. Now that there has been no justice and this is going viral on facebook, he is a target.


Why? Is not like a black guy got killed.

[phill4paul]

The camera evidence helped the police officers' defense. The police likely would have been found guilty without the video.

You're f*cking shitting me, right? Had there been no video there would have been no public outrage in the first place. It would have just been another Saturday night thugscum of a vagrant. You are really streching to justify your position.

[coastie]

I know I just posted this in the other pig gets away with murder thread, but it's just as appropriate here.

http://i42.tinypic.com/n96pk.jpg

[FrankRep]

You're f*cking shitting me, right? Had there been no video there would have been no public outrage in the first place. It would have just been another Saturday night thugscum of a vagrant. You are really streching to justify your position.

The jurors needed the video to properly rule on the case, not guilty. Without the video, the jurors would have saw the body of Kelly without knowing what led to the event. The video saved the officers.

[tod evans]

just be warned. LEO is reading social media for threats. Veiled or direct.

A rope is too nice for these pieces of shit.

[GunnyFreedom]

SMDH

[phill4paul]

The jurors needed the video to properly rule on the case, not guilty. Without the video, the jurors would have saw the body of Kelly without knowing what led to the event. The video saved the officers.

Had there not been outrage, due to the video, there would never have been a trial in the first place. The DA would not have prosecuted and originally determined that there was no evidence showing that the officers intended to kill Kelly though they were investigating "use of force" guidelines. It would have just been another thugscrum on a bum and swept under the rug. As is usually the case. You're out of your friggin' mind Frank.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Timeline-The-Kelly-Thomas-Case-in-Fullerton-126851443.html

[FrankRep]

Had there not been outrage, due to the video, there would never have been a trial in the first place. The DA would not have prosecuted and originally determined that there was no evidence showing that the officers intended to kill Kelly though they were investigating "use of force" guidelines. It would have just been another thugscrum on a bum and swept under the rug. As is usually the case. You're out of your friggin' mind Frank.

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Timeline-The-Kelly-Thomas-Case-in-Fullerton-126851443.html

And the jury ruled Not Guilty based on the evidence.

[JK/SEA]

And the jury ruled Not Guilty based on the evidence.

LOL....case closed huh?

not over yet.

[PaulConventionWV]

And the jury ruled Not Guilty based on the evidence.

Who was on the jury?

[GunnyFreedom]

And the jury ruled Not Guilty based on the evidence.

The German Brownshirts thought the Einsatzgruppen were not guilty too.

[phill4paul]

Who was on the jury?

12 Frankrep's.

[FrankRep]

The German Brownshirts thought the Einsatzgruppen were not guilty too.

So the jury was full of German Brownshirts? Silly statement to make.

[JK/SEA]

So the jury was full of German Brownshirts? Silly statement to make.

you serious?

[GunnyFreedom]

12 Frankrep's.

LMAO -- well we have required "a jury of their peers" since at least the 1500's....

[GunnyFreedom]

you serious?

LOL of course he is. I long ago gave up the notion that he was deliberately obtuse, and have come to the necessary conclusion that he is legitimately obtuse.

[FrankRep]

LOL of course he is. I long ago gave up the notion that he was deliberately obtuse, and have come to the necessary conclusion that he is legitimately obtuse.

I was talking about the jury and you brought up the German Brownshirts.

[JK/SEA]

I was talking about the jury and you brought up the German Brownshirts.

those who ignore history, are bound to repeat it...no?

[aGameOfThrones]

And the jury ruled Not Guilty based on the evidence.

Only after they threw the evidence out the window.

http://img.pandawhale.com/post-27959-we-are-men-of-action-lies-do-n-AvoL.gif

[phill4paul]

It's clear to me now that the DA never wanted or intended to prosecute this case. As such he made a half assed attempt, if even that, to counter the defense.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-kelly-thomas-father-critical-da-20140114,0,5673973.story#axzz2qUZnGpWk

[FrankRep]

those who ignore history, are bound to repeat it...no?

Historically speaking, I'm seeing the foundations of a Bolshevik revolution being created. "The people" will rise up and try to pull an October Revolution in America. The liberals/progressives/socialists will establish the Soviet Union all over again.

[SeanTX]

Historically speaking, I'm seeing the foundations of a Bolshevik revolution being created. "The people" will rise up and try to pull an October Revolution in America. The liberals/progressives/socialists will establish the Soviet Union all over again.

I'm seeing something more like 1938 Germany ...

[GunnyFreedom]

I was talking about the jury and you brought up the German Brownshirts.

http://glenbradley.net/images/share/obtuseangles.gif

[RickyJ]

And the jury ruled Not Guilty based on the evidence.

You do not know what they based their decision on. I doubt they based their decision on the evidence.

[Pericles]

http://glenbradley.net/images/share/obtuseangles.gif

Rather obtuse

[Christian Liberty]

He might, but I think he is dead before the year is out. Dumb ass doesn't know how to go into hiding and will soon be 6 feet under.

Maybe its wrong, but I wouldn't be upset in the least. He deserves it.


The German Brownshirts thought the Einsatzgruppen were not guilty too.


Thumbs up.

[Philhelm]

just be warned. LEO is reading social media for threats. Veiled or direct.

Exactly. Any righteous vigilantes out there shouldn't telegraph their punches. Like Tuco said, "If you gotta shoot, shoot. Don't talk."

[Christian Liberty]

Exactly. Any righteous vigilantes out there shouldn't telegraph their punches. Like Tuco said, "If you gotta shoot, shoot. Don't talk."

Yeah, but RickyJ didn't actually say he was going to do anything about this. Only that he wouldn't be surprised if the guy did end up dead.

[Philhelm]

I had to come back to this one. Not even excessive force...fuckin' A... This is insane, as the video is pretty fucking clearly shows the police murding Kelly. And then the fuck has the audacity to try to get his job back. I hope justice rains upon him slowly.

[pcosmar]

I'm seeing something more like 1938 Germany ...

Me too..

We just need to elect a "Leader". (several faces come to mind)

[mrsat_98]

I had to come back to this one. Not even excessive force...fuckin' A... This is insane, as the video is pretty fucking clearly shows the police murding Kelly. And then the fuck has the audacity to try to get his job back. I hope justice rains upon him slowly.

If the Jury foreman was a lawyer who formerly worked in that DA's office, the right lawyer can hit the jackpot and leave occifer thugass destitute.