EPA overrides Congress, hands over town to Indian tribes

[Bryan]

Not sure how I missed this... and this certainly isn't anything against any tribe.

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Have you heard the story of the residents of Riverton, Wyo.? One day they were Wyomingans, the next they were members of the Wind River tribes — after the Environmental Protection Agency declared the town part of the Wind River Indian Reservation, undoing a 1905 law passed by Congress and angering state officials.

The surprise decision was made by officials of the EPA, the Department of Interior, and Department of Justice early last month, and has invoked the ire of Gov. Matt Mead, who has vowed not to honor the agency’s decision and is preparing to fight in court.

“My deep concern is about an administrative agency of the federal government altering a state’s boundary and going against over 100 years of history and law,” Mead said in a statement. “This should be a concern to all citizens because, if the EPA can unilaterally take land away from a state, where will it stop?”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/08/epa-overrides-congress-hands-over-town-to-indian-tribes

[donnay]

Agenda 21--they are using the Indians now and later take it from them.

[Origanalist]

“This should be a concern to all citizens because, if the EPA can unilaterally take land away from a state, where will it stop?”

Answer, it won't. Unless we all stop it, and I'm not seeing that happen.

[TaftFan]

WTF

[oyarde]

Not sure how I missed this... and this certainly isn't anything against any tribe.

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Have you heard the story of the residents of Riverton, Wyo.? One day they were Wyomingans, the next they were members of the Wind River tribes — after the Environmental Protection Agency declared the town part of the Wind River Indian Reservation, undoing a 1905 law passed by Congress and angering state officials.

The surprise decision was made by officials of the EPA, the Department of Interior, and Department of Justice early last month, and has invoked the ire of Gov. Matt Mead, who has vowed not to honor the agency’s decision and is preparing to fight in court.

“My deep concern is about an administrative agency of the federal government altering a state’s boundary and going against over 100 years of history and law,” Mead said in a statement. “This should be a concern to all citizens because, if the EPA can unilaterally take land away from a state, where will it stop?”

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2014/01/08/epa-overrides-congress-hands-over-town-to-indian-tribes

Best I can tell , the town was opened to white settlement but the boundries of the Wind River were never changed .That treaty predates the town and the State. Anything not under a deed belongs to the Res. That all looks legit to me. As to why they would seek anything from the EPA , I have no clue and I consider that to be wrong .Perhaps it is because the State , which came along decades later has disputed ownership of the " unowned" land which clearly does not belong to the State but the Res. This land has never belonged to the State.

[oyarde]

There is a thread on this already , cannot remember , probably a week or two ago.

[oyarde]

I think the Res was established , 1860's , the state , 1890 .Of course Ohio really belongs to the Lenape :) , its not like these treaties were ever honored , lol.

[oyarde]

I do not think I know any living Arapohoes or I would call and ask what this is really about , I do not remember any of the language , but that would be helpful too , because about a third of them can still speak it last I was out that way some time ago .The EPA needs disbanded.

[Keith and stuff]

It was Indian land. The government stole it via eminent domain to help white people. I'm glad that it was finally given back to the Indians. The WY government also fought with the tribes about casinos. The tribes also won that fight. Eminent domain abuse is wrong, even in WY.

[oyarde]

It was Indian land. The government stole it via eminent domain to help white people. I'm glad that it was finally given back to the Indians. The WY government also fought with the tribes about casinos. The tribes also won that fight. Eminent domain abuse is wrong, even in WY.

Actually the way the settlement was started was not too bad by history's standards . Homesteads were offered , few took advantage , you have a deed for that . The boundary of the Res remains the same, rest still belongs to them .

[RonPaulMall]

Regardless of how it came about, isn't this a good thing for the Liberty Movement? This essentially makes Riverton an Imperial Free City. All building codes, business licensing laws, and state regulations are void. If this goes through, wouldn't this be the freest city in America?

[Keith and stuff]

Regardless of how it came about, isn't this a good thing for the Liberty Movement? This essentially makes Riverton an Imperial Free City. All building codes, business licensing laws, and state regulations are void. If this goes through, wouldn't this be the freest city in America?
I think it is good for the truth. Though, there are lots of cities in Indian Reservation. They still fall under federal law and their local jurisdiction and some state law. Check out what NYS is trying to do to the Reservations there.

Actually, Wind River Reservation is very dangerous.
http://www.businessinsider.com/wind-river-indian-reservation-in-wyoming-2013-2

[Ender]

Best I can tell , the town was opened to white settlement but the boundries of the Wind River were never changed .That treaty predates the town and the State. Anything not under a deed belongs to the Res. That all looks legit to me. As to why they would seek anything from the EPA , I have no clue and I consider that to be wrong .Perhaps it is because the State , which came along decades later has disputed ownership of the " unowned" land which clearly does not belong to the State but the Res. This land has never belonged to the State.

That is my understanding as well.

[oyarde]

Regardless of how it came about, isn't this a good thing for the Liberty Movement? This essentially makes Riverton an Imperial Free City. All building codes, business licensing laws, and state regulations are void. If this goes through, wouldn't this be the freest city in America?

Interesting , population 1910 about 500 , today about 11k , about ten percent of that are Native Americans . I doubt there are employment opportunites :) , but a person could probably live well there off of median income .

[RonPaulMall]

I think it is good for the truth. Though, there are lots of cities in Indian Reservation. They still fall under federal law and their local jurisdiction and some state law. Check out what NYS is trying to do to the Reservations there.

Actually, Wind River Reservation is very dangerous.
http://www.businessinsider.com/wind-river-indian-reservation-in-wyoming-2013-2

Yeah, but are their any, for lack of a better term, "White Man Cities" on Indian Reservations? This is a town of 11,000 mostly white people that have essentially been granted Imperial immediacy. Is there any precedent in America for such a thing?

[Keith and stuff]

Yeah, but are their any, for lack of a better term, "White Man Cities" on Indian Reservations? This is a town of 11,000 mostly white people that have essentially been granted Imperial immediacy. Is there any precedent in America for such a thing?
Not really. The are subject to rules of the town, the reservation, the state and the federal government. And yeah. Check out MT. Several white folks living in those places. Not sure why we are using the word white though... But there is more freedom in the bush of Alaska, anyway. There are no other people and you can do whatever you want as long as you don't get caught, and there is no one to catch you...