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kylejack
11-29-2007, 06:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCOA0LoMtY

I love this thing!

kylejack
11-29-2007, 06:49 PM
Number 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsXFxcVuu4

These are fantastic.

akovacs
11-29-2007, 06:52 PM
Great ads

And the woman in purple is hot... just sayin'

BillyDkid
11-29-2007, 06:53 PM
Can we get these things on the air??? Please????? So much better than the "professional" campaign ads. I'm in if someone wants to put it together. Regular people need to see these and not just YouTube/Ron Paul fans.

promagma
11-29-2007, 06:56 PM
Awesome. Has the campaign or grassroots ever run any of these ads, other than the handful of official ads from the RonPaul2008dotcom user?

louisiana4liberty
11-29-2007, 06:57 PM
bump...these are great new ads!

Minuteman
11-29-2007, 06:58 PM
Nice ads. Informative and enough going on to keep the eye interested.

Libertarian
11-29-2007, 06:59 PM
very nice.

http://i1.tinypic.com/73nnja0.jpg

DrNoZone
11-29-2007, 07:02 PM
Now THESE are what I call effective ads! Wow, these should be run! The campaign should buy these.

ronpaulfan
11-29-2007, 07:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCOA0LoMtY

I love this thing!

Great video, but hearing "every 4 years when I voted" coming from a 20 year old is silly :p

jb4ronpaul
11-29-2007, 07:10 PM
just saw this too that I liked


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXPOQnUhd7M

Johnnybags
11-29-2007, 07:11 PM
Grandparent in it though, a well preserved example as well.

kylejack
11-29-2007, 07:18 PM
just saw this too that I liked


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXPOQnUhd7M

Can't use that one, its a ripoff of an Apple ad. I mean, I like it, but not for TV.

0zzy
11-29-2007, 07:38 PM
very nice.

http://i1.tinypic.com/73nnja0.jpg

QFT

saahmed
11-29-2007, 07:57 PM
The second ad is great. As long as it is changed to emphasize the importance of caucus or primary voting it needs to be aired in certain states.

nathanmn
11-29-2007, 08:00 PM
I hope the campaign makes use of these!

mosquitobite
11-29-2007, 08:12 PM
Great ads Jeremiah!! :)

jblackpost
11-29-2007, 09:22 PM
Your comment was pretty funny, but the guy who says the "every fours years" line is in hs mid-thirties.

jblackpost
11-29-2007, 09:24 PM
Thanks everyone for your kind words about the ads I made. They were made by myself and, of course, my friends who all work in either modeling or television with me and who are also big Ron Paul supporters. Yes, you heard it right, beautiful women like Ron Paul. Seriously, thanks again for the nice words. There will be 3 or 4 more coming that I've already filmed, so look for those soon.

It's too bad that the commercials don't have much ethnic or age diversity, but three of my friends got called into work while we were shooting. All three were black. And one was 50 years old. Bad luck. But, if everyone likes them enough, we'll shoot some more, and plan better next time. These were really made rather off-handedly, but are very professional because we all work in television and have very fancy toys to play with in the office.

The studio rental was $1350.00, but other than than that, all gear and labor was free. All the crew were Ron Paul supporters, as were all the actors and models.

Thanks, again,

- jeremiah black, NY, NY

Syren123
11-29-2007, 09:25 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCOA0LoMtY

I love this thing!

OMG that PWNS!!!

bew2005
11-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Wow...these advertisements are wonderfully done. While the people talking may be "actors" in the sense that they are speaking to an audience, the conviction is there. You can tell they truly believe in what they are saying. Thank you very much for the time, effort, and money you put into making these. I hope someone in the campaign hears about them and can either use the ads themselves or actually use you to make some ads for them directly.

sirachman
11-29-2007, 09:55 PM
Please will someone set up/help set up a PAC to get these aired?!

PLEASE

slantedview
11-29-2007, 10:02 PM
those are great!

ronpaulyourmom
11-29-2007, 10:12 PM
The 2nd ad is very good. That should find its way on to the airwaves as soon as possible.

xflashjr
11-29-2007, 10:22 PM
I got an email tonight from someone in my meetup group and this is what he sent!



Just wanted to share these ads with everyone. A good friend of mine--who is a video production professional in NYC--made these ads with an all-volunteer cast and crew of Ron Paul supporters. Enjoy!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCOA0LoMtY#GU5U2spHI_4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsXFxcVuu4

I think both of these ads are phenominal. I especilly like the last one. I would love for these to start playing in the early primary states!

ronpaulyourmom
11-29-2007, 10:25 PM
duplicate post, but yes these ads are awesome. Lets plead with the campaign on this. This will be great from an image standpoint.

MsDoodahs
11-29-2007, 10:26 PM
VERY nice! Thank you for sharing them!

davidkachel
11-29-2007, 10:37 PM
These ads are brilliant!!!
Don't contact the campaign. These need to be run as grass roots ads. The campaign has their own ads. Remember if we don't keep these things separate we hurt the campaign.

Also, you need a disclaimer at the end... paid for by ------. I don't know the exact phrasing you need but it must be clear the RP campaign had nothing to do with it.

jblackpost
11-29-2007, 11:02 PM
If the ads are actually run by the grassroots anywhere, I have a special disclaimer planned for the end that will be great. I'd post it here, but I don't want to reveal it yet.

- jeremiah black, director of these ads.

d991
11-29-2007, 11:16 PM
If the ads are actually run by the grassroots anywhere, I have a special disclaimer planned for the end that will be great. I'd post it here, but I don't want to reveal it yet.

- jeremiah black, director of these ads.

If there is a plan and a chip-in to get these ads put on TV somewhere I will chip in for sure.

kylejack
11-29-2007, 11:17 PM
If the ads are actually run by the grassroots anywhere, I have a special disclaimer planned for the end that will be great. I'd post it here, but I don't want to reveal it yet.

- jeremiah black, director of these ads.
Well, it would need to say "Paid for by ______ PAC, not affiliated with any candidate's committee", at least. I'm sure you probably know this.

madRazor
11-29-2007, 11:18 PM
Yup, just let us know when/what/how much. Seriously. Dude. DO IT. DO IT.

lawdida
11-29-2007, 11:30 PM
I really like them a lot....except the music. The music on the 2nd one is ok but I find the music on the first one distracting and almost annoying. It's got some kind of vibrato thing that really bothers me. BUT I STILL REALLY LIKE THEM. Just thought I'd throw in some constructive criticism. I know you can't please everyone.

Daveforliberty
11-29-2007, 11:35 PM
In the words of a well-known news person, "Amazing... amazing..."

jblackpost
11-29-2007, 11:37 PM
Well, it would need to say "Paid for by ______ PAC, not affiliated with any candidate's committee", at least. I'm sure you probably know this.

Your 100% right, but I have a particular way to do it which is FEC compliant and unique to Dr. Paul's overall message. Hopefully, we'll get the chance to use it.

lucius
11-29-2007, 11:40 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCOA0LoMtY

I love this thing!

Very nice--thank you!

jblackpost
11-29-2007, 11:41 PM
Yup, just let us know when/what/how much. Seriously. Dude. DO IT. DO IT.

I never really expected people to resons to my ads as positively as they have, so I haven't thought about it until this second. But if it could be beneficial to Dr. Paul, of course, me and my production crew are in.

jblackpost
11-29-2007, 11:41 PM
Yup, just let us know when/what/how much. Seriously. Dude. DO IT. DO IT.

I never really expected people to resons to my ads as positively as they have, so I haven't thought about it until this second. But if it could be beneficial to Dr. Paul, of course, me and my production crew are in.

lawdida
11-29-2007, 11:44 PM
I never really expected people to resons to my ads as positively as they have, so I haven't thought about it until this second. But if it could be beneficial to Dr. Paul, of course, me and my production crew are in.

I think one of the reasons is that it's the most professional looking (production-wise) RP ad we've seen.

Edit: and it doesn't violate any copyright laws!

Arklatex
11-29-2007, 11:46 PM
We can get these aids aired!!! Let's put it in motion!!!

monotony
11-29-2007, 11:53 PM
When Ron Paul wins the presidency, it is going to be in large part to the unbelievable creativity and diversity of ideas that have spontaneously arisen out of his grassroots community. I had been thinking to myself lately, "we really need to TARGET the non-likely voters" because they will vote for Ron Paul. These are perfect ads for that demographic.

Damn this campaign is exciting to watch!

kutibah
11-30-2007, 12:01 AM
Wow. WE MUST put these on the air!

Omphfullas Zamboni
11-30-2007, 12:54 AM
Wow. WE MUST put these on the air!

Isn't there a guy named Don, (from the official campaign), who visits these forums, periodically? Hopefully, some Ron Paul staffer will recognize the clarity, creativity, and production value of this--and many other--supporter-generated ads.

The message is simple: Ron Paul people produce quality promotions.

Yours truly,
Omphfullas Zamboni

HazardPerry
11-30-2007, 01:13 AM
These are absolutely fantastic, I can't wait to donate to get these things on the air!

aperetti
11-30-2007, 01:38 AM
bumpity bump

I love the ads and will chip-in for air time

Cap'n Crunk
11-30-2007, 01:45 AM
seriously....set up a PAC and I'll donate 100

coffeewithchess
11-30-2007, 01:51 AM
These are really, really good...I think the 2nd one is the best one of the two! This is great stuff...the grassroots never ceases to amaze me!

texasbelle
11-30-2007, 01:57 AM
I love these ads! Very modern and eye catching. Makes me think I am watching a gap ad! (which is great to get the attention of the masses!!!) I think it will appeal to many. If you get a chip-in I would definitely donate to run these.

tsetsefly
11-30-2007, 02:08 AM
these ads need to be run on something like mtv or a program most watched by younger people, we need the campaign to use these or we can start an effort to get these into a show, I would definetly donate to getting these on air...

tsetsefly
11-30-2007, 02:38 AM
ps.someone clsoe tot he campaign has to get them to see these ads...

jacmicwag
11-30-2007, 02:39 AM
Ok Trevor - where are you?

rpfreedom08
11-30-2007, 02:54 AM
just saw this too that I liked


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXPOQnUhd7M

wow someone get this on the air now!

oh it's a rip off? Damn that sucks, that was the best ad yet. Also the others are very good as well. I think since Ron has so much money and needs better ads he needs to start looking to his grassroots. We know what captures the imagination of others, something a campaign usually can't do. Is there a grassroots representative to the Paul campaign? If not, he needs one.

GoneResistance
11-30-2007, 07:23 AM
We need the campaign to spend some money to get these Ads directed by Jeremiah Black on the air. They are fantastic!!

Ad #1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCOA0LoMtY

Ad#2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsXFxcVuu4

OV 101 Enterprise
11-30-2007, 07:26 AM
I like the adds. I say lets get them on the air

leonster
11-30-2007, 07:56 AM
I say WE do it... let's not chance it to the campaign running these, instead of "he's catchin' on, I'm tellin' ya"

The blimp should demonstrate that people WILL donate directly to grassroots efforts if they think they are important enough.

Get something up and running. I'll pledge $50 here and now.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 08:07 AM
I disagree - the Clips from the initial post are boring as hell, they're
too mainstream and don't distinguish from any other blah-blah-ad.
My personal favorites are this one - even if it's for the younger generation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5E3QQRQ8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med926aDBoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_2X93rkFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kn5ofxj3TQ

It certainly makes people curious - and this is not an easy task for
a TV-ad these days...

musicmax
11-30-2007, 08:09 AM
My suggestions:

1. JBlack - Reshoot a couple of the lines with your "ethnically-diverse" models & actors. Remix with the music a leeeeetle softer.

2. TeaParty07 people - form a PAC and start taking donations/chip-ins.

3. Buy airtime in IA/NH/NV/SC/MI!

4. The nights of the caucuses and primaries, party like it's 1776 :-)

267
11-30-2007, 08:17 AM
Any hints as to the range of costs for running some of these ads?

Any advice about where? Small town TV or big city TV or late night cable, etc. etc.???

kylejack
11-30-2007, 08:19 AM
I disagree - the Clips from the initial post are boring as hell, they're
too mainstream and don't distinguish from any other blah-blah-ad.
My personal favorites are this one - even if it's for the younger generation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5E3QQRQ8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med926aDBoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_2X93rkFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kn5ofxj3TQ

It certainly makes people curious - and this is not an easy task for
a TV-ad these days...

I don't like the fact that those don't have audio explaining Ron Paul's positions. Visually they're impressive, though.

As to the Jeremiah's ads, I had another thought. Shouldn't Paul's face be featured at some point? And what about mentioning that he's a Republican?

hambone1982
11-30-2007, 08:27 AM
We need the campaign to spend some money to get these Ads directed by Jeremiah Black on the air. They are fantastic!!

Ad #1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvCOA0LoMtY

Ad#2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmsXFxcVuu4

I second that! These hit the spot.

american.swan
11-30-2007, 08:35 AM
we need ads running in the tsunami tuesday states. 18 in total. maybe cable is cheaper?

IDEA do them again for radio too!!! cheaper and the grassroots can run them more often.

european
11-30-2007, 08:42 AM
very nice.

http://i1.tinypic.com/73nnja0.jpg

+1

Pete
11-30-2007, 08:45 AM
Grassroots-produced ads! Can you imagine the buzz?

I liked ad #2 best, for the wider age spread and because it was issue-specific. If you could add some non-white actors it would be perfect.

For a 'lesser of two evils' theme to be used in states that still have open registration, I'd hit on the theme of failed policies from both sides of the aisle and call on the viewer to check out the issues and vote for Republican Ron Paul in their state's primary.

Incidentally, I am over 50.

Great job, Jeremiah and friends! :)

kimosabi
11-30-2007, 09:16 AM
Fantastic Adds...

Flirple
11-30-2007, 09:52 AM
Man. Those are some beautiful people.

GHoeberX
11-30-2007, 10:08 AM
I second that! These hit the spot.

I like ad #1 best because it has a better pace. #2 seems to go to fast.

I think Ad #1 should definitely be broadcasted


Man. Those are some beautiful people.

Yep; except for the last one who says the word "president" without articulation

lawdida
11-30-2007, 10:12 AM
I like ad #1 best because it has a better pace. #2 seems to go to fast.

I think Ad #1 should definitely be broadcasted



Except for the last one who says "Vote Ron Paul for prevident"

I think she might be deaf.

RevolutionSD
11-30-2007, 10:13 AM
Sweet! Nothing fake or phony about these ads.

Hey, they're catchin' on!

Are these going to hit the air? what about the ad with the CCR music?

jblackpost
11-30-2007, 10:25 AM
Sweet! Nothing fake or phony about these ads.

Hey, they're catchin' on!

Are these going to hit the air? what about the ad with the CCR music?

ccr music?

GHoeberX
11-30-2007, 10:26 AM
I think she might be deaf.

Oh I didn't know that; sorry!

caradeporra
11-30-2007, 10:31 AM
Great video, but hearing "every 4 years when I voted" coming from a 20 year old is silly :p

agreed.

Plus the ads need to have some older, 'wiser' supporters. We need to adhere to ALL ages! I know more older supporters than i do younger supporters, believe it or not.

rpfreedom08
11-30-2007, 10:44 AM
I disagree - the Clips from the initial post are boring as hell, they're
too mainstream and don't distinguish from any other blah-blah-ad.
My personal favorites are this one - even if it's for the younger generation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5E3QQRQ8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med926aDBoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_2X93rkFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kn5ofxj3TQ

It certainly makes people curious - and this is not an easy task for
a TV-ad these days...

3rd one in my opinion as this will target the baby boomers. You see all these investment ads now a days with old rock n roll songs because they are targeting the baby boomers because they are retiring. I say we do the same thing.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 10:51 AM
I don't like the fact that those don't have audio explaining Ron Paul's positions. Visually they're impressive, though.

As to the Jeremiah's ads, I had another thought. Shouldn't Paul's face be featured at some point? And what about mentioning that he's a Republican?


The point of those Ad's is to make people curious. So they don't need any long
or boring spoken statements at all - you get those things online as soon as you
google Ron Paul. This is the sole purpose of these Ad's - giving new Ideas and
Hope for people to make them curious enough to take a look into "what's this
Ron Paul about anyway?"...

I should know, I'm a Media-Designer...

Oliver
11-30-2007, 10:55 AM
3rd one in my opinion as this will target the baby boomers. You see all these investment ads now a days with old rock n roll songs because they are targeting the baby boomers because they are retiring. I say we do the same thing.


That's why I said that the visuals are merely for the younger generation.
And please don't underestimate the younger generation once they got
inflamed.

The Ad's I provided "feel" exactly what I'm talking about: "New Hope" - and
a reason to go out, get informed .... and finally: Vote...

Daveforliberty
11-30-2007, 10:56 AM
Somebody here must know how to get these things on the air through a PAC or whatever. I don't have a clue myself, but...

Somebody pick up the ball! I will donate.

Who is taking the lead on this?

rpfreedom08
11-30-2007, 10:59 AM
That's why I said that the visuals are merely for the younger generation.
And please don't underestimate the younger generation once they got
inflamed.

The Ad's I provided "feel" exactly what I'm talking about: "New Hope" - and
a reason to go out, get informed .... and finally: Vote...

oh yeah yeah I completely have faith in alot of the younger generation however I also think most of them have the internet :) I think the baby boomers are the ones that don't have the internet so we need to target them on tv.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 10:59 AM
Somebody here must know how to get these things on the air through a PAC or whatever. I don't have a clue myself, but...

Somebody pick up the ball! I will donate.

Who is taking the lead on this?


It's nearly impossible to get in contact with the official campaign regarding
those Issues. I have no Idea what the campaign is doing right now concerning
Ad's - but from what I see, they fail to be THE leading Advertisers from the rest
of the crowd ....

kylejack
11-30-2007, 11:00 AM
It's nearly impossible to get in contact with the official campaign regarding
those Issues. I have no Idea what the campaign is doing right now concerning
Ad's - but from what I see, they fail to be THE leading Advertisers from the rest
of the crowd ....
You called them and they did not answer your call?

rpfreedom08
11-30-2007, 11:02 AM
we really need to elect someone to be the grassroots representative to the campaign.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 11:03 AM
oh yeah yeah I completely have faith in alot of the younger generation however I also think most of them have the internet :) I think the baby boomers are the ones that don't have the internet so we need to target them on tv.


Well - the Internet is dead concerning Ron Paul - because if you never
heard about Ron's name as an Internet-User, you aren't an internet
user at all ... :D

Anyway: It's time to focus on News-Papers and Mainstream-Media,
YouTube is already flooded by Ron Paul - any additional flooding may
turn into annoyance.

Which means: The Internet-Generation knows who Ron Paul is, it's
time to address other Generations as well.... So people: Stop wasting
any more time on YouTube....

dsentell
11-30-2007, 11:16 AM
I disagree - the Clips from the initial post are boring as hell, they're
too mainstream and don't distinguish from any other blah-blah-ad.
My personal favorites are this one - even if it's for the younger generation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY5E3QQRQ8A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Med926aDBoc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rd_2X93rkFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kn5ofxj3TQ

It certainly makes people curious - and this is not an easy task for
a TV-ad these days...

Don't know which of these is the CCR version (I am at work and my computer has no sound:()but it would really catch the attention of the baby boomers. Usually I ignore commercials, but if this came on I would definitely stop and look to see what it was! Sleek, eye catching, brilliant!

The two commercials that started this thread are great as well.

Different styles to attract different people -- perfect!

WE NEED A PAC TO GET THESE GOING IMMEDIATELY!

rjl
11-30-2007, 11:17 AM
So people: Stop wasting
any more time on YouTube....

Yeah, why bother with a free video medium that can reach hundreds of thousands of people with the click of a mouse?

rpfreedom08
11-30-2007, 11:20 AM
Well - the Internet is dead concerning Ron Paul - because if you never
heard about Ron's name as an Internet-User, you aren't an internet
user at all ... :D

Anyway: It's time to focus on News-Papers and Mainstream-Media,
YouTube is already flooded by Ron Paul - any additional flooding may
turn into annoyance.

Which means: The Internet-Generation knows who Ron Paul is, it's
time to address other Generations as well.... So people: Stop wasting
any more time on YouTube....


yeah thats why I'm saying we need to get one of those (the third one preferably) ads on tv. That way we can target a differant demographic (very important).

The Plan
11-30-2007, 11:31 AM
spectacular
These have to go on in iowa and new hampshire like yesterday.
I would donate to get these on the air as well.

Tim724
11-30-2007, 11:45 AM
bravo!

These are very slick, modern, attention-catching ads. It is brilliant how they don't look anything like a usual political ad.

JBlackpost (the ad creator) already acknowledged this, but I did notice right away the lack of diversity in the actors.

I would love to see the campaign use this ad with just a little tweaking. Address the diversity issue (without going over the top) and the dialog could probably be adjusted a little to hit on a few more substantive issues.

I love the concept and the "look and feel".

jblackpost
11-30-2007, 11:55 AM
I think she might be deaf.

yes, the woman is deaf. She's a personal friend of mine and did me a tremendous favor by stopping by with her husband and helping out with the ads. So a big thanks to her, please.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 11:55 AM
Yeah, why bother with a free video medium that can reach hundreds of thousands of people with the click of a mouse?


The heavy internet-users KNOW RON PAUL ALREADY. What about
other Generations?

It's time to focus on them as well instead annoying Internet-Users
by spamming the whole internet with Ron Paul....

Why? ... Because Ron Paul is well known already within the internet.
There is no need whatsoever to spread his word any longer in this
medium ...

THE INTERNET KNOWS RON PAUL. THE REAL WORLD DOESN'T!

kylejack
11-30-2007, 11:56 AM
the dialog could probably be adjusted a little to hit on a few more substantive issues.

Actually, I think they did a good job of hitting on popular issues while staying away from more controversial topics.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 02:30 PM
The heavy internet-users KNOW RON PAUL ALREADY. What about
other Generations?

It's time to focus on them as well instead annoying Internet-Users
by spamming the whole internet with Ron Paul....

Why? ... Because Ron Paul is well known already within the internet.
There is no need whatsoever to spread his word any longer in this
medium ...

THE INTERNET KNOWS RON PAUL. THE REAL WORLD DOESN'T!

*bump* I need some additional strategical opinions about this important issue...

rjl
11-30-2007, 02:37 PM
The heavy internet-users KNOW RON PAUL ALREADY. What about
other Generations?

It's time to focus on them as well instead annoying Internet-Users
by spamming the whole internet with Ron Paul....

Why? ... Because Ron Paul is well known already within the internet.
There is no need whatsoever to spread his word any longer in this
medium ...

THE INTERNET KNOWS RON PAUL. THE REAL WORLD DOESN'T!

I am all for working on more mainstream avenues to promote Ron Paul's campaign, but the suggestion that the Internet isn't the "real world" seems to buy into the media's recurring canard. 80% of Americans are now on-line and more and more people are getting their news from the Web. The Vegas handicappers have slashed the odds against Ron Paul because they know that as people start to come to a decision on who they're voting for, they will turn primarily to the Internet for research.

Again, I fully support getting more into TV, print, and radio. I'm doing my small part to try and make that happen. But I think it's important to maintain our dominance in cyberspace, particularly leading into the primaries.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 02:48 PM
I am all for working on more mainstream avenues to promote Ron Paul's campaign, but the suggestion that the Internet isn't the "real world" seems to buy into the media's recurring canard. 80% of Americans are now on-line and more and more people are getting their news from the Web. The Vegas handicappers have slashed the odds against Ron Paul because they know that as people start to come to a decision on who they're voting for, they will turn primarily to the Internet for research.

Again, I fully support getting more into TV, print, and radio. I'm doing my small part to try and make that happen. But I think it's important to maintain our dominance in cyberspace, particularly leading into the primaries.


I agree that probably about 80 percent are online by now ... But that
doesn't mean that they spend their time on YOUTUBE and DIGG. Otherwise
Paul would have higher ratings in the Polls. Now I know it's easy to ignore
those Polls as being biased, but to me as German it makes sense that
older people don't browse Youtube and Digg all the time. Those people
tend to listen to the crappy Mainstream media ... As uncomfortable this
might be.

To reach those people, it simply isn't enough to post Youtube clips.
There are thousands of those clips already - it's time to focus on other
media as well if we want to win ...

HazardPerry
11-30-2007, 02:48 PM
How can we do this? What are the laws regarding campaign ads? A quick google turned up things like http://www.spotrunner.com, and http://www.thecommercialmakers.com, but I don't even know if this is what we're looking for. Can we use this to run the ad in NH or Iowa or everywhere for that matter?

Isn't there anybody on here who can untangle this mess and get the money flowing? :rolleyes:

lawdida
11-30-2007, 02:55 PM
yes, the woman is deaf. She's a personal friend of mine and did me a tremendous favor by stopping by with her husband and helping out with the ads. So a big thanks to her, please.

Absolutely, I thought she did great. I think it would be great if she signed while she spoke (but I don’t know if she’d be down with that).

mackler
11-30-2007, 02:56 PM
Can we get these things on the air??? Please????? So much better than the "professional" campaign ads. I'm in if someone wants to put it together. Regular people need to see these and not just YouTube/Ron Paul fans.

Seriously. This is my biggest fear. The campaign now has enough money to run these kick-ass ads, but do they have the sense to?

Oliver
11-30-2007, 03:09 PM
Seriously. This is my biggest fear. The campaign now has enough money to run these kick-ass ads, but do they have the sense to?

They certainly should ... These old-style Ad's are nice, but I don't see
any potential to "rock the house" with them. Do we have some people
from the official campaign in here?

kylejack
11-30-2007, 03:13 PM
The guy talking about the Constitution at the beginning and toward the end of the second ad has a nice timbre to his voice.

Highmesa
11-30-2007, 03:27 PM
My only suggestion would be to have the Ron Paul banner up for longer at the end of both spots. Maybe have the last person doing (just) a voice-over while the banner comes into focus. You don't get quite enough time to read them.

I would certainly contribute to have them run. Remember, the campaign cannot be involved though if we want to run them ourselves through a PAC.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 03:53 PM
My only suggestion would be to have the Ron Paul banner up for longer at the end of both spots. Maybe have the last person doing (just) a voice-over while the banner comes into focus. You don't get quite enough time to read them.

I would certainly contribute to have them run. Remember, the campaign cannot be involved though if we want to run them ourselves through a PAC.

What does this mean that the official campaign can't run those ads??? Why not?

kylejack
11-30-2007, 03:55 PM
What does this mean that the official campaign can't run those ads??? Why not?

Re-read that sentence. The campaign can't be involved IF WE WANT TO RUN THEM THROUGH A PAC. FEC rules.

Oliver
11-30-2007, 04:08 PM
Re-read that sentence. The campaign can't be involved IF WE WANT TO RUN THEM THROUGH A PAC. FEC rules.


I'm sorry - but I'm not an American and so I don't understand
your point. It doesn't matter what "We" want - it does matter
what the official campaign wants. And if they want to buy one
of our ads, they're surely free to buy them, aren't they? :confused:

kylejack
11-30-2007, 04:11 PM
I'm sorry - but I'm not an American and so I don't understand
your point. It doesn't matter what "We" want - it does matter
what the official campaign wants. And if they want to buy one
of our ads, they're surely free to buy them, aren't they? :confused:

If we want to use a political action committee to run the ads rather than the campaign running them, the campaign can not have any input into the production of the ads or about the message of them, or communicate with the political action committee at all.

Brutus
11-30-2007, 04:14 PM
I love these!

rjl
11-30-2007, 04:36 PM
They certainly should ... These old-style Ad's are nice, but I don't see
any potential to "rock the house" with them. Do we have some people
from the official campaign in here?

Judging by the reaction these "old-style Ad's" have gotten here and elsewhere, I'd say they'd be pretty effective. The current ads would play great in college towns. If the support's there, JB can shoot more ads with a more diverse cast and some of the other suggestions supporters have posted. I know he's being contacted by supporters who want to set up a PAC and get these on the air in NH and Iowa. He's also looking at possibly setting up a Chip-in for another round of ads.

wsc321
11-30-2007, 04:46 PM
Thanks everyone for your kind words about the ads I made. They were made by myself and, of course, my friends who all work in either modeling or television with me and who are also big Ron Paul supporters. Yes, you heard it right, beautiful women like Ron Paul. Seriously, thanks again for the nice words. There will be 3 or 4 more coming that I've already filmed, so look for those soon.

It's too bad that the commercials don't have much ethnic or age diversity, but three of my friends got called into work while we were shooting. All three were black. And one was 50 years old. Bad luck. But, if everyone likes them enough, we'll shoot some more, and plan better next time. These were really made rather off-handedly, but are very professional because we all work in television and have very fancy toys to play with in the office.

The studio rental was $1350.00, but other than than that, all gear and labor was free. All the crew were Ron Paul supporters, as were all the actors and models.

Thanks, again,

- jeremiah black, NY, NY

Great job. I'd be glad to chip in for the expense for the next ones, so set something up and keep us all posted. I encourage you to pursue the ethnic/age diversity thing, but you don't need to change (and shouldn't change) nearly anything else. The style is excellent... I'd love to see these on TV, either via the official campaign (God knows how much money we'd save them), or through grassroots efforts. Thank you!

Oliver
11-30-2007, 04:52 PM
If we want to use a political action committee to run the ads rather than the campaign running them, the campaign can not have any input into the production of the ads or about the message of them, or communicate with the political action committee at all.


I guess I understand this - but as more I learn about American elections,
the more I tend to think that you guys need democracy in your elections... :o

kylejack
11-30-2007, 04:56 PM
I guess I understand this - but as more I learn about American elections,
the more I tend to think that you guys need democracy in your elections... :o
Ron Paul says we're giving democracy to the Iraqis when we don't have it here at home. ;)

chowda
11-30-2007, 05:27 PM
Those are the best 30 second spots I have seen... I forwarded them on to the campaign and lew rockwell.

spacebetween
11-30-2007, 05:40 PM
I guess I understand this - but as more I learn about American elections,
the more I tend to think that you guys need democracy in your elections... :o

Haha

The sad part is... you're absolutely right.

I think every Ron Paul supporter would agree with you there.

These ads are FANTASTIC!

To the producer: I think I met a friend of yours in Austin, TX today (if these are the ads he was talking about).

Pete
11-30-2007, 05:45 PM
Those are the best 30 second spots I have seen... I forwarded them on to the campaign and lew rockwell.

Excellent!

jblackpost
12-02-2007, 05:25 PM
Haha

The sad part is... you're absolutely right.

I think every Ron Paul supporter would agree with you there.

These ads are FANTASTIC!

To the producer: I think I met a friend of yours in Austin, TX today (if these are the ads he was talking about).

Hey, that's possible. I have a few really good friends in austin who are Ron Paul supporters, and saw the ads before I posted them publicly.

thanks for the nice words, guys. It looks like the ads will be runnig in NH, I will let everyone know when the chip-in gets posted.

rjl
01-06-2008, 03:21 AM
Just thought I'd resurrect this thread to remind people that we have great grassroots ads available and a plan to get them on the air in SC, Nevada, and Michigan. Right now the project is woefully underfunded, particularly in terms of airtime. If you want to see these ads on the air, where they can make a real difference, please donate and tell your fellow RP supporters about Operation Broadcast Freedom.

Robert

http://www.operationbroadcastfreedom.com