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anotherone
11-29-2007, 02:39 PM
http://uruknet.info/?p=m38731&s1=h1

November 29, 2007

In a new low of despicable looniness, at the Republican debate in St. Petersburg, John McCain equated those Americans who want to stop militarily occupying Iraq with Hitler-enablers. He actually said that, saying that it was 'isolationism' of a sort that allowed Hitler to come to power.

Omnis
11-29-2007, 02:41 PM
Is this an Italian or Iraqi site? Good article. :)

liam
11-29-2007, 02:44 PM
Great article!

polexi
11-29-2007, 02:45 PM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=jul_Aia50Qo

Simple yet good youtube vid on the issue.

torchbearer
11-29-2007, 02:46 PM
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colecrowe
11-29-2007, 02:56 PM
http://digg.com/politics/McCain_sings_bomb_bomb_bomb_bomb_bomb_Iran

Video of McCain making a "hilarious" joke:

"Bomb bomb bomb, bomb bomb Iran"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

Great vid making fun of it all:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWGa9ViY7G8&feature=related

Derek Johnson
11-29-2007, 03:00 PM
I put this post in another thread, but last night McCain did a 1984 to Hitler's rise to power....

so, since McCain blamed the US non-interventionalism for the rise of Hitler (who himself was using pre-emptive war ~ sound familiar?), I'd like to give Senator McCain a reading assignment, and he can read it online, here it is:

http ://reformed-theology.org/html/books/wall_street/index.html

WALL STREET AND
THE RISE OF HITLER
By
Antony C. Sutton

and another good book for McCain is:

http://www.biblegateway.com/

The Holy Bible
by
Various, inspired by God.

The parts of the bible I'd like Senator McCain to focus on in terms of Iraq, "Islamofascists" and pre-emptive was is:

Mat.5:28-42, Mat.5:39, 26:52, Rom.12:19, Mat.5:33-41, Mat.26:50-54, Lk.22:51, Rom.12:17-21, Lk.2:14, Jn.20:19,21,27, Rom.8:28-39, Jn.2:14-15, Mat.21:12-13, Eph 2:14, Mat.5:9, Rom.8:28-39, Ps.18:2-3, Ps.23:1,4

"The hardest thing in the world to understand is the income tax."

"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage -- to move in the opposite direction."

"Great spirits have often encountered violent opposition from weak minds."

"Peace cannot be kept by force. It can only be achieved by understanding."

"The important thing is not to stop questioning. Curiosity has its own reason for existing."

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones."

"Heroism on command, senseless violence, and all the loathsome nonsense that goes by the name of patriotism -- how passionately I hate them!"

"Great spirits have always found violent opposition from mediocrities. The latter cannot understand it when a man does not thoughtlessly submit to hereditary prejudices but honestly and courageously uses his intelligence."

"He who joyfully marches to music rank and file, has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice. This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action. It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder."

All Quotes from Albert Einstein




As a curious side note, Senator McCain: our president's grandad, Prescott Bush, was a large financier for Adolf Hitler.

colecrowe
11-29-2007, 03:02 PM
Derek Johnson
That link isn't working.

drednot
11-29-2007, 03:07 PM
I find the claim ironic that Hitler rose to power because of isolationism.

Hitler was elected because Wilson made the world safe for democracy at Germany's expense.

Derek Johnson
11-29-2007, 03:13 PM
Derek Johnson
That link isn't working.

Sorry, try it now. And e-mail the link to his staff.

FYI, Senator John McCain’s CFR advisers include Bernard Aronson, Max Boot, Lawrence Eagleburger, and Henry Kissinger. Since the CFR is supposed to be such a great think tank, contact these CFR advisers and inform them that CFR members should have a stronger grasp of history than the Senator's distorted smear of the well documented facts.

We would certainly not want the CFR looking like a poorly informed conspiracy, would we?!

Joey Wahoo
11-29-2007, 03:19 PM
JM needs a history lesson.

We allowed Hitler to come to power? And we did so by isolationism? And wanting to bring the troops home from Iraq is equivalent to allowing Hitler to "come to power"?

How could anyone seriously consider such an idiot for the presidency?

Derek Johnson
11-29-2007, 03:21 PM
I find the claim ironic that Hitler rose to power because of isolationism.

Hitler was elected because Wilson made the world safe for democracy at Germany's expense.

WWI = the war to end all wars

Yes, Colonel House did much damage that we are still suffering from. Colonel House also brought the CFR to New York. These men were/are far from isolationists, but anyone for Nationalism/Patriotism is called such.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=mid8-qfJHZ0

This is a vid I published earlier this year, anyway at 2:00 Hillary is rewriting history at the CFR, claiming the founders intended for all of us to be internationalists, and that their agenda was, believe it or not, internationalism.

JeffersonThomas
11-29-2007, 03:25 PM
Has anyone put this article on digg or reddit yet?

Paulitician
11-29-2007, 03:26 PM
JM needs a history lesson.

We allowed Hitler to come to power? And we did so by isolationism? And wanting to bring the troops home from Iraq is equivalent to allowing Hitler to "come to power"?

How could anyone seriously consider such an idiot for the presidency?
There are a lot of dumb people who only look at this at face value, take only the emotional things away from them and never dissect and reason through the issues.

For John McCain it's this, we should be prescient about all dictators so we can take them down before they gain any power, but, since we can't do that, we must occupy Iraq and "win" (seriously what is "winning"?).

I mean, there are so many flaws with John McCain's argument it's really baffling.