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CaseyJones
01-07-2014, 01:00 PM
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/01/06/government-checkpoints-driving/4265633/


A tactic used by the federal government to gather information for anti-drunken and drugged driving programs is coming under criticism in cities around the country, and some local police agencies say they will no longer take part.

The tactic involves a subcontractor for the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration that uses off-duty but uniformed police at voluntary roadside checkpoints where motorists are asked on their behavior behind the wheel. In some cases, workers at the checkpoints collect blood and saliva samples, in addition to breath samples. NHTSA has said previously that the surveys do not collect any DNA. Drivers are not charged at the checkpoints.

In an era of rampant distrust of the federal government and in the wake of the Obama administration's National Security Agency surveillance scandal in which the agency has collected telephone calling records from millions of unsuspecting Americans, the checkpoints have come under intense criticism in several cities this year.

kahless
01-07-2014, 01:40 PM
He says he had not expected the deputies to actively participate, but only to provide security.

Sounds like the NHSTA needs to read AF's posts here. :)

DFF
01-07-2014, 09:07 PM
In some cases, workers at the checkpoints collect blood and saliva samples, in addition to breath samples

NOBODY should have the legal right to take your blood against your will.

This is stepping WAY over the line.

kahless
01-07-2014, 09:27 PM
NOBODY should have the legal right to take your blood against your will.

This is stepping WAY over the line.

It was supposed to be voluntary but when the sheep see the uniform they feel compelled to comply. The cops were off duty but still uniformed were only supposed to provide security, not flag people down. Regardless even if it is NHTSA staff they SHOULD NOT be directing people to pull over, that is the problem right there.

If government is going to fund such a statistical program then there should have simply put a sign, "Volunteers Needed Next right, $10 for cheek swabs and $50 for blood". Gives people the option to either ignore it or pull over to make a few bucks.

Anti Federalist
01-07-2014, 09:38 PM
NOBODY should have the legal right to take your blood against your will.

This is stepping WAY over the line.

Where have you been?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?427227-Tennessee-to-roll-out-“No-Refusal”-blood-draw-DUI-checkpoints

kahless
01-07-2014, 09:54 PM
Where have you been?

Gimmee a minute...

The fact is no blood was drawn against anyone's will. The issue here is the fact they were flagged down in the first place and the stupidity of your fellow American. They were told it was voluntary but submitted anyway due to the 'aura of authority' and the 'uniform'.

The real issue is the common DWI stops where blood is actually being drawn against your will.

Anti Federalist
01-07-2014, 09:55 PM
http://www.theblaze.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/forced-blood-draw_3.jpg

AmeriKa, maggot, that's what country this is.



‘Disturbing Video’ Shows Cops Forcibly Drawing Blood of DUI Suspects — And It’s Legal

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/28/disturbing-video-shows-cops-forcibly-drawing-blood-of-dui-suspects-and-its-legal/

Anti Federalist
01-07-2014, 09:56 PM
The fact is no blood was drawn against anyone's will. The issue here is the fact they were flagged down in the first place and the stupidity of your fellow American. They were told it was voluntary but submitted anyway due to the 'aura of authority' and the 'uniform'.

The real issue is the common DWI stops where blood is actually being drawn against your will.

Oh, I'm well aware of that fact.

I'm just making sure DFF is aware of that.

DamianTV
01-08-2014, 02:23 AM
NOBODY should have the legal right to take your blood against your will.

This is stepping WAY over the line.

When you cant hide anything, they will find something to burn everyones asses with.