Erick Erickson exposes Peter King's terrorist past

[TaftFan]

http://www.redstate.com/2014/01/05/rep-peter-king-of-new-york-supported-a-soviet-backed-terrorist-group/

[Brian4Liberty]

Good one from Erickson.

Don't bother to read the comments at the link though. One of the RedState neo-conservative mods is making an ass out of himself.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

I thought he died.

[TaftFan]

Good one from Erickson.

Don't bother to read the comments at the link though. One of the RedState neo-conservative mods is making an ass out of himself.

They always do. They are horrible at their jobs,

[Anti Federalist]

Post a paragraph or two, please.

[Anti Federalist]

Rep. Peter King of New York Supported a Soviet Backed Terrorist Group



By: Erick Erickson (Diary) | January 5th, 2014 at 02:54 PM | 32

Rep. Peter King lashed out at Senator Rand Paul today over Sen. Paul’s position on the National Security Agency.

In a bit of hysteria, he questioned Senator Paul’s patriotism and loyalty to the United States. This is pretty rich considering Rep. Peter King, during the Cold War, supported a Soviet backed terrorist group responsible for killing many.

King, ardently supported the Irish Republican Army. The intelligence agencies Peter King is now falling all over himself to support, knew the IRA was a terrorist group. The organization tried to assassinate Margaret Thatcher. They killed a number of people close to her. They killed members of the British Royal Family. And they killed many Irishmen. But Peter King stood by ignoring the blood on his own hands.

The IRA also had Stalin’s blessing and during the Cold War collaborated with the Soviets against American and British interests.

And Peter King stood by them.

[TaftFan]

Post a paragraph or two, please.

That is basically the sum of the article.


Rep. Peter King lashed out at Senator Rand Paul today over Sen. Paul’s position on the National Security Agency.

In a bit of hysteria, he questioned Senator Paul’s patriotism and loyalty to the United States. This is pretty rich considering Rep. Peter King, during the Cold War, supported a Soviet backed terrorist group responsible for killing many.

King, ardently supported the Irish Republican Army. The intelligence agencies Peter King is now falling all over himself to support, knew the IRA was a terrorist group. The organization tried to assassinate Margaret Thatcher. They killed a number of people close to her. They killed members of the British Royal Family. And they killed many Irishmen. But Peter King stood by ignoring the blood on his own hands.

The IRA also had Stalin’s blessing and during the Cold War collaborated with the Soviets against American and British interests.

And Peter King stood by them.

[WM_in_MO]

Good one from Erickson.

Don't bother to read the comments at the link though. One of the RedState neo-conservative mods is making an ass out of himself.

No joke. He was seriously defending the sedition act!

[angelatc]

Nice to see someone besides you guys taking about it. I would not know about it if I didn't hang out here.

[William R]

Good one from Erickson.

Don't bother to read the comments at the link though. One of the RedState neo-conservative mods is making an ass out of himself.

Neil Stevens is a punk beyond punks.

Take this one for example

"Go read some Russell Kirk, son.

Maybe in Paultardia y'all hate conservatives like John Adams, but we're not Paultards here, kid"

Okay Neil, unlike you I've actually read lots of Russell Kirk

Here is Russell Kirk speaking at the Heritage Foundation in 1991.


"True, we did not suffer a long war in the deserts of Kuwait and Iraq. But we must expect to suffer during a very long period of widespread hostility toward the United States -- even, or perhaps especially, from the people of certain states that America bribed or bullied into combining against Iraq.

In Egypt, in Syria, in Pakistan, in Algeria, in Morocco, in all of the world of Islam, the masses now regard the United States as their arrogant adversary; while the Soviet Union, by virtue of its endeavors to mediate the quarrel in its later stages, may pose again as the friend of Moslem lands. Nor is this all: for now, in every continent, the United States is resented increasingly as the last and most formidable of imperial systems.

In this century, great empires have collapsed: the Austrian, the German, the British, the French, the Dutch, the Portuguese, the Spanish, the Italian, and the Japanese. The Soviet empire now languishes in the process of dissolution. "Imperialism" has become a term of bitter reproach and complaint; all this within my own lifetime.

American Empire. But there remains an American Empire, still growing -- though expanding through the acquisition of client states, rather than through settlement of American populations abroad. Among the client states directly dependent upon American military power are Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Israel, and El Salvador; and until the withdrawal of American divisions from Germany for service in Arabia, Germany, too, was a military client. Dependent upon American assistance of one kind or another, and in some degree upon American military protection, are the Philippines, the Dominican Republic, and Panama; and also, in the Levant, Egypt and Jordan, and formerly Lebanon. Now Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are added to the roster of clients. I hardly need mention America's earlier acquisitions: Hawaii, Puerto Rico, the Virgins, and lesser islands. I refrain from mentioning America's economic ascendancy, through foreign aid or merely trade, over a great deal more of the world. In short, although we never talk about our empire, a tremendous American Empire has come into existence -- if, like the Roman Empire, in a kind of fit of absence of mind. No powerful counterpoise to the American hegemony seems to remain, what with the enfeebling of the U.S.S.R. "

http://users.etown.edu/m/mcdonaldw/Lect321.html


Russell Kirk sounds like Ron Paul. Now Neil, I know a loser when I see one, but I'll cut you some slack!! Kid.

[Brian4Liberty]

I thought he died.

Are you thinking of Breitbart?

[TaftFan]

Are you thinking of Breitbart?

Leif Erickson is dead too. So is Martin Luther King.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Are you thinking of Breitbart?

I never heard of this Erickson fellow, so--for a split second--I thought of the psychologist Erik Erikson.

[NorthCarolinaLiberty]

Leif Erickson is dead too.

But the real question here is whether Leif Garret is still playing fine music.

[Brett85]

Nice to see someone besides you guys taking about it. I would not know about it if I didn't hang out here.

I've been banned from Red State once and free republic twice. I really don't see any need to ever try to post on those "conservative" web sites again. The moderators on those sites are absolutely terrible. At least when I was posting there, they didn't allow any dissenting or minority views at all. If you posted a comment that contained any kind of anti war sentiment, you would be banned immediately. That may have changed a little bit now that we have a Democratic President, but if we ever have another Republican President who gets us involved in a prolonged war in the Middle East, the Red State/free republic moderators will ban anyone who opposes that war and will call them "anti American terrorist sympathizers" and whatever else. A lot of people think that I don't fit in here with my views, but I agree with people here a lot more than I agree with the red state/free republic types.

[HOLLYWOOD]

So that obnoxious and vicious establishment mouthpiece King continues running his mouth? I think TPTB have an awful lot of dirt on King... he's been their bit bull for the airwaves.


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[green73]

It's a tough one. The American revolutionaries were "terrorists" too. It's pretty sad what N. Ireland has had to deal with. Too bad they weren't familiar with the ideas of Étienne de La Boéti (http://archive.lewrockwell.com/rothbard/rothbard78.html).

[Anti Federalist]

Support for the IRA

King began actively supporting the Irish republican movement in the late 1970s. He frequently traveled to Northern Ireland to meet with senior members of the Provisional Irish Republican Army (PIRA), many of whom he counted as friends.[14][26]

King compared the leader of Sinn Féin, the political wing of the PIRA, Gerry Adams to George Washington, and asserted that the "British government is a murder machine".[27] However, he did not meet Adams until 1984.[28]

King became involved[when?] with NORAID, an organization that the British, Irish and U.S. governments had accused of financing IRA activities and providing them with weapons.[14][29][30][31] Regarding the 30 years of violence during which the IRA killed over 1,700 people, including Lord Mountbatten, Lord Kaberry, Sir Anthony Berry MP and over 600 civilians, King said, "If civilians are killed in an attack on a military installation, it is certainly regrettable, but I will not morally blame the IRA for it."[32]

He also called the PIRA "the legitimate voice of occupied Ireland"[33] although the Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP), which opposed all violence and spoke for most of Northern Ireland's nationalists at that time, remained the majority nationalist party in Northern Ireland until 2003. Speaking at a pro-PIRA rally in 1982 in Nassau County, New York, King pledged support to "those brave men and women who this very moment are carrying forth the struggle against British imperialism in the streets of Belfast and Derry."[14][34] In 1985, the Irish government boycotted New York's annual St. Patrick's Day celebrations in protest at King serving as Grand Marshal of the event; the Irish government condemned him as an "avowed" supporter of IRA terrorism.[35] At the parade he again offered words of support for the IRA.[36]

[jmdrake]

I just read. Neil Stevens thinks Thomas Jefferson was a "proto-Marxist" and that the Alien and Sedition Acts were good things? SMH! He's right along with the Obama/Clinton "the founding fathers were terrorists" crowd.


Neil Stevens is a punk beyond punks.

Take this one for example

"Go read some Russell Kirk, son.

Maybe in Paultardia y'all hate conservatives like John Adams, but we're not Paultards here, kid"

Okay Neil, unlike you I've actually read lots of Russell Kirk

Here is Russell Kirk speaking at the Heritage Foundation in 1991.


"True, we did not suffer a long war in the deserts of Kuwait and Iraq. But we must expect to suffer during a very long period of widespread hostility toward the United States -- even, or perhaps especially, from the people of certain states that America bribed or bullied into combining against Iraq.

In Egypt, in Syria, in Pakistan, in Algeria, in Morocco, in all of the world of Islam, the masses now regard the United States as their arrogant adversary; while the Soviet Union, by virtue of its endeavors to mediate the quarrel in its later stages, may pose again as the friend of Moslem lands. Nor is this all: for now, in every continent, the United States is resented increasingly as the last and most formidable of imperial systems.

In this century, great empires have collapsed: the Austrian, the German, the British, the French, the Dutch, the Portuguese, the Spanish, the Italian, and the Japanese. The Soviet empire now languishes in the process of dissolution. "Imperialism" has become a term of bitter reproach and complaint; all this within my own lifetime.

American Empire. But there remains an American Empire, still growing -- though expanding through the acquisition of client states, rather than through settlement of American populations abroad. Among the client states directly dependent upon American military power are Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Israel, and El Salvador; and until the withdrawal of American divisions from Germany for service in Arabia, Germany, too, was a military client. Dependent upon American assistance of one kind or another, and in some degree upon American military protection, are the Philippines, the Dominican Republic, and Panama; and also, in the Levant, Egypt and Jordan, and formerly Lebanon. Now Saudi Arabia and Kuwait are added to the roster of clients. I hardly need mention America's earlier acquisitions: Hawaii, Puerto Rico, the Virgins, and lesser islands. I refrain from mentioning America's economic ascendancy, through foreign aid or merely trade, over a great deal more of the world. In short, although we never talk about our empire, a tremendous American Empire has come into existence -- if, like the Roman Empire, in a kind of fit of absence of mind. No powerful counterpoise to the American hegemony seems to remain, what with the enfeebling of the U.S.S.R. "

http://users.etown.edu/m/mcdonaldw/Lect321.html


Russell Kirk sounds like Ron Paul. Now Neil, I know a loser when I see one, but I'll cut you some slack!! Kid.

[jmdrake]

Nice to see someone besides you guys taking about it. I would not know about it if I didn't hang out here.

True. And ^that is proof that the media is neither liberal nor conservative but rather it is fascist. You'd think liberals would jump at the chance to trash a republican for having open ties to terrorism.

[jmdrake]

I've been banned from Red State once and free republic twice. I really don't see any need to ever try to post on those "conservative" web sites again. The moderators on those sites are absolutely terrible. At least when I was posting there, they didn't allow any dissenting or minority views at all. If you posted a comment that contained any kind of anti war sentiment, you would be banned immediately. That may have changed a little bit now that we have a Democratic President, but if we ever have another Republican President who gets us involved in a prolonged war in the Middle East, the Red State/free republic moderators will ban anyone who opposes that war and will call them "anti American terrorist sympathizers" and whatever else. A lot of people think that I don't fit in here with my views, but I agree with people here a lot more than I agree with the red state/free republic types.

After reading the linked article and some of the comments on it, I have confirmation on what I believe is the best strategy for engaging forums like Redstate. Don't try to change anyone's mind. Instead use that to push things that are important to you and that the forum owner may agree on. I'm betting that this Neil Stevens character secretly loves Peter King. And yet, he's forced to say this:

Neil Stevens Mod garfield
• 18 hours ago

The great thing is, I can think Rand Paul is overreacting on NSA *and* think Peter King is a terrorist-loving scumbag.

That's fine. If Redstate is a place where Peter King can be taken down a notch or two, then that's what they are good for. We're going to also need to get the word out on Chris Christie and make sure that everyone knows that Mike Huckabee has played both sides of the "Common Core" fence. And it would be good for someone to spread the information about Peter King's terrorist past on Democratic Underground and DailyKos. We've been fighting the "infowar" all wrong. We've been trying to get people to agree with our positions. Nobody agrees with anyone 100% of the time. Look at all of the infighting here. (And yes, I am a participant). Most of us agree on 90% of stuff, but most discussion is on the 10% we disagree on. Being effective in 2014-2016 means finding the people we agree with on only 10% of the time and getting them to help us push the 10% they agree with us on. I remember in 2008 I tried to get the local peace group to help me protest then presidential candidate Mike Huckabee and the "leader" (mis-leader) of that group attacked the idea only because he knew I supported Ron Paul. In retrospect I don't think such a protest would have been helpful anyway. Republicans would have only liked Huckabee more if leftists were protesting him. But say if someone who wasn't already identified as a Paul supporter got a leftist group to protest Obama's drone strikes? Again, winning isn't necessarily about convincing someone else they're wrong. Maybe it's about getting them to re-evaluate their own priorities of what they already think is right.

[pcosmar]

exposes??

I thought this was Known.

[Lucille]

Red State fascist Mod Neil Stevens still has a bad case of Paul derangement syndrome, I see.


Neil Stevens Mod
• 16 hours ago

Go read some Russell Kirk, son.

Maybe in Paultardia y'all hate conservatives like John Adams, but we're not Paultards here, kid.


Neil Stevens Mod
• 19 hours ago

It's highly unlikely Rand Paul is doing any thing about grandstanding to win the conspiracy theory vote his father had captured.


Neil Stevens Mod
• 19 hours ago

The great thing is, I can think Rand Paul is overreacting on NSA *and* think Peter King is a terrorist-loving scumbag.



Neil Stevens Mod
• 19 hours ago

Shh. They're listening.

They're listening to you. Yes you. They're out to get you.

Run for the hills. Hurry. Before it's too late. They're coming in black helicopters.

I can't say I'll have any sympathy when he's confronted with his data by an interrogator.

ETA: Sorry, I see some others already posted what he thinks passes for intelligent discussion.

[Brian4Liberty]

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[jct74]

420262438932856832

nice! 2nd day in a row he has made a blog post attacking Peter King for his terrorist ties



The sick and tragic irony is that the GOP put in charge of the Committee on Homeland Security a man who raised money for a terrorist organization while that organization was murdering American allies. That’s right. While the IRA was running terror operations throughout Ireland and Britain, Peter King was a huge supporter. King was even thrown out of a Northern Ireland courtroom during a trial because the judge determined he was an IRA collaborator.

And that guy is now the Chairman of the Homeland Security Committee.

http://www.redstate.com/2014/01/06/peter-king-raised-money-for-terrorists-while-they-were-murdering-american-allies/

[HOLLYWOOD]

Red State fascist Mod Neil Stevens still has a bad case of Paul derangement syndrome, I see.

I can't say I'll have any sympathy when he's confronted with his data by an interrogator.

ETA: Sorry, I see some others already posted what he thinks passes for intelligent discussion.

It's all public opinion and mind control... these 2 bit political social media sites are funded to fool and control the internet parties and keep the divide amongst the people further than ever. Just look, like any other public opinion manipulator... common denominator Washington DC metro area. Covertly compensated partisans.

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