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Therion
06-25-2007, 09:20 PM
Dodd wants mandatory community service. Fun stuff.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/23/ap/politics/main2970761.shtml

foofighter20x
06-25-2007, 09:27 PM
Volunteer? Psssssh... You got Volun-told! :p :D

wecandoit
06-25-2007, 09:39 PM
I'll volunteer my foot to his a$$

LibertyCzar
06-25-2007, 09:40 PM
Dodd wants mandatory community service. Fun stuff.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/23/ap/politics/main2970761.shtml

Isn't that sort like an oxymoron? We cannot be required to volunteer. To genuinely volunteer, well, it must be voluntary. No, this plan is something else, like broading the scope of conscription. It's a form of slavery.

BuddyRey
06-25-2007, 09:44 PM
It sounds a lot to me like the mobile work brigades Aaron Russo mentioned in "America: Freedom to Fascism."

wecandoit
06-25-2007, 09:49 PM
It sounds a lot to me like the mobile work brigades Aaron Russo mentioned in "America: Freedom to Fascism."


I just finished watching Freedom to Fascism, like in the last 10 minutes, hence my earlier angry response to this "mandatory volunteering"

jd603
06-25-2007, 09:54 PM
Edwards also wants this! ..and he includes the military.



Dodd wants mandatory community service. Fun stuff.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/06/23/ap/politics/main2970761.shtml

fedup100
06-25-2007, 09:58 PM
that is the same kind of volunteering that the irs requires.

When this happens we'll all have the same haircut and the same little coat.

These communist feel safe enough in todays climate to let the cat out of the bag.

legion
06-25-2007, 09:59 PM
mandatory volunteering? where do i sign up!

oh, i already am?

Phil M
06-25-2007, 11:28 PM
Just like Mao's Revolutionary Guard. And the slogan that goes with it: "A new American Patriotism" -- we all know, of course, that patriotism is something that can be forced upon you.

What irks me the most is how blatantly unconstitutional this all is. The 13th Amendment clearly prohibits involuntary servitude, but the modern interpretation is that that particular clause solely applies to slavery -- in other words, private individuals can't have slaves, but the government can just because it's special.

ecliptic
06-25-2007, 11:39 PM
"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."

— Daniel Webster

Broadlighter
06-25-2007, 11:43 PM
I think our tax system is already a form of mandatory volunteerism.

I have no problem with volunteering, it's the mandatory part I object to.

LizF
06-25-2007, 11:52 PM
"Good intentions will always be pleaded for every assumption of authority. It is hardly too strong to say that the Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern well, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters."

— Daniel Webster

Thanks for the quote! I'd never heard it before.

tsoldrin
06-25-2007, 11:57 PM
People in the bronze age worked less than we do now. And they want more from us? When does it end?

Well, that's for you folks... I don't even have a drivers license and I'm 80% off the grid so... I just hope I don't have to end up fighting conscriptees in my lifetime.

Shmuel Spade
06-25-2007, 11:58 PM
This sounds like Kerry's plan from '04. Bad stuff. Kerry did, in the end, remove it from his site though.