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CaseyJones
01-03-2014, 06:34 PM
http://washingtonexaminer.com/sen.-bernie-sanders-wants-to-know-if-the-nsa-spied-on-congress/article/2541554


Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., wrote Friday to the head of the National Security Agency demanding to know if the agency secretly gathered intelligence on members of Congress.

"Has the NSA spied, or is the NSA currently spying, on members of Congress or other American elected officials?" Sanders asked in his short letter to Gen. Keith Alexander, the NSA director.

Sanders said "spying" would include gathering metadata on phone calls made from official or personal phones, content from websites visited or emails sent, or collecting any other data from a third party not made available to the general public.

The outspoken Sanders added he was "deeply concerned" by revelations that American intelligence agencies harvested the phone records, emails and web activity of millions of innocent Americans without reason to suspect them of illegal activity.

Brett85
01-03-2014, 06:36 PM
Cruz mentioned this on his Facebook page. It seems as though he's jumping on the anti NSA bandwagon as well.

NIU Students for Liberty
01-03-2014, 06:48 PM
The fuck does that matter? The NSA spied on American citizens and that should be all the ammunition you need to go after them and the Obama administration.

tangent4ronpaul
01-03-2014, 07:00 PM
He's not paying attention. It's allready been brought out that they did spy on at least some members of congress. Hell, they spied on Obama wen he was a candidate!

-t

HOLLYWOOD
01-03-2014, 07:04 PM
Spying on Criminals? Don't want to let that out of the bag, eh? Especially when they bailed-out their campaign donors with all sorts of corporate and special interest welfare.

latest news... Scumbag Stasi-Zionist speaks out

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/194393-napolitano-no-clemency-for-snowden

Napolitano: No clemency for Edward Snowden

By Justin Sink

Former Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said Friday that she “would not put clemency on the table” for NSA leaker Edward Snowden.

Dianne
01-03-2014, 08:07 PM
It does matter, because I would guess 80% of the Congress are being blackmailed at the moment. Probably 80% have cheated on their spouses... probably 80% are on illegal drugs................ flirt with their secretaries.................. take kick-packs.................... have aides.................... homosexuals ......

Remember the NSA can make up stuff... they don't need facts.. I truly do believe 80% of Congress are being held hostage by the NSA .... And we do know the Saudi owned male prostitute in the White House, and his Personal Attorney Eric Holder are playing the Congress with all the fake news they can create.

Obama/Holder/Saudi's, this is their game... They are a bunch of criminals themselves, running weapons to the drug cartels in Mexico, They are two bit hoodlums that could just as well be serving 50 to life for their own drug running.............. but now these hoodlums are in a position of power ...... very scarey.

What they don't have on you, they make up ... The Executive Branch of the United States Government are the Terrorists... They are the ones who need to be stopped at the Airport.

Carson
01-03-2014, 08:08 PM
It's my understanding that they have a complete duplicate of everything that passes on the Internet.

Deciphering it all would be near impossible, I would imagine. Though if they haven't shown an interest in what has passed by the Honorable Senator Sanders little point on the web, I'm sure a statement like his latest could trigger interest.

Dianne
01-03-2014, 08:20 PM
Actually I hate many of Sander's viewpoints, but I like some.. That's why I'm neither a republican or a democrat. I like Dennis Kucinich in many ways.

I was a democrat for 40 years until I found Ron Paul. I detest McConnell, McCain... that psycho King from New York, Graham, Bohener... the list goes on..

In the same token, I detest Barry Soetoro aka Barack Obama, Eric Holder, and their mentors Graham, Boehner, etc.

The government is fake... we have no government.

twomp
01-03-2014, 08:26 PM
They are collecting huge amounts of bulk data. I refuse to believe that they somehow filter out congress members in their data collection.

TaftFan
01-03-2014, 08:45 PM
Of course they were. They spied on foreign governments for goodness sake.

Natural Citizen
01-03-2014, 09:03 PM
It does matter, because I would guess 80% of the Congress are being blackmailed at the moment. Probably 80% have cheated on their spouses... probably 80% are on illegal drugs................ flirt with their secretaries.................. take kick-packs.................... have aides.................... homosexuals ......



^This ^

Is perhaps not their intention to become the enemy of the people who elected them through all of this tyrannical legislation but a few very powerful people holding their personal lives against them to get what they want. This has always been my thought on it.

Good, Dianne. Very good.

phill4paul
01-03-2014, 09:24 PM
What they don't have on you, they make up ...

If you've got nothing to hide......................

HOLLYWOOD
01-03-2014, 11:00 PM
“Senior members of the George W. Bush administration and US intelligence officials intervened at the highest level of the Swiss government to pressure it to destroy evidence in a criminal investigation of nuclear trafficking,” the authors said.

“The Americans also used their influence to persuade the Swiss to abandon plans to prosecute six CIA agents for espionage.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/01/11/protect-cia-nuclear-spy-effort-book/

We already know from Snowden, the operations of the U.S. Intelligence agencies/ Black Ops were to setup and blackmail officials/bankers/people of interest, getting them drunk, etc. Remember when Snowden worked with the CIA in Switzerland, setting up and blackmailing banking/financial executives. Amazing Switzerland turned over bank accounts on Americans/anyone the U.S. government demanded. Global thuggery, blackmailing, extortion, theft, fraud... Where's the ICC, Interpol, UN getting those US .gov criminals?



It does matter, because I would guess 80% of the Congress are being blackmailed at the moment. Probably 80% have cheated on their spouses... probably 80% are on illegal drugs................ flirt with their secretaries.................. take kick-packs.................... have aides.................... homosexuals ......

Remember the NSA can make up stuff... they don't need facts.. I truly do believe 80% of Congress are being held hostage by the NSA .... And we do know the Saudi owned male prostitute in the White House, and his Personal Attorney Eric Holder are playing the Congress with all the fake news they can create.

Obama/Holder/Saudi's, this is their game... They are a bunch of criminals themselves, running weapons to the drug cartels in Mexico, They are two bit hoodlums that could just as well be serving 50 to life for their own drug running.............. but now these hoodlums are in a position of power ...... very scarey.

What they don't have on you, they make up ... The Executive Branch of the United States Government are the Terrorists... They are the ones who need to be stopped at the Airport.

ghengis86
01-03-2014, 11:03 PM
Oh course they do.

Notably, a much stricter rule was set for US government communications found in the raw intelligence. The Israelis were required to "destroy upon recognition" any communication "that is either to or from an official of the US government". Such communications included those of "officials of the executive branch (including the White House, cabinet departments, and independent agencies), the US House of Representatives and Senate (member and staff) and the US federal court system (including, but not limited to, the supreme court)".

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/sep/11/nsa-americans-personal-data-israel-documents


Which presents a couple possibilities:

1. Sanders is a naive fuckwit
2. Sanders is wants to get the NSA on record
2a. "Yes, we do!" = NSA is up shit's creek
2b. "No we don't!" = Gen Alexander is shown to be a liar (again) to Congressman + Snowden refutation leak
3. Sanders is throwing out red meat, seeing who jumps on with support/denunciation.
4. There's a power struggle between various factions of the power elite: NSA, Congress, shadow government, MIC, and their various puppet masters.

This is a lose/lose for NSA. Which is almost assuredly what the letter was meant to do. The real question, is why and for what (or who's) benefit?

acptulsa
01-03-2014, 11:05 PM
It does matter, because I would guess 80% of the Congress are being blackmailed at the moment.

Nonsense! That's just a wild-eyed conspiracy theory!

Of course, we know J. Edgar Hoover did it fifty years ago. But that's different. It just couldn't happen today...

enhanced_deficit
01-04-2014, 01:09 AM
To be devil's advocate, what if there are terrorist Tea Party sympathizers in Congress.. won't it be responsible thing to do to make sure they don't plot to disrupt freedom situation in the nation.

ghengis86
01-05-2014, 09:27 AM
NSA Responds:

"Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all U.S. persons,"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-04/nsa-responds-bernie-sanders-whether-it-spies-congress

So the NSA definitely spies on Congress. Now we need a Senator to ask the NSA if they spy on the President and/or Supreme Court (which we know they do, but to get them on record with a response).

This police state is a fully functioning tyranny and barely anyone cares.

tod evans
01-05-2014, 09:46 AM
Ol' Bernie just doesn't seem to get it........."Elected officials" are on the bottom of the totem pole, the only lower rank is government employee.

If anything these useless pieces of shit should have total transparency to the public instead of the other way around.

Carson
01-05-2014, 11:39 AM
NSA Responds:

"Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all U.S. persons,"

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-04/nsa-responds-bernie-sanders-whether-it-spies-congress

So the NSA definitely spies on Congress. Now we need a Senator to ask the NSA if they spy on the President and/or Supreme Court (which we know they do, but to get them on record with a response).

This police state is a fully functioning tyranny and barely anyone cares.


And if they are doing it to protect us why haven't they come forward on things like Benghazi or 9-11?

Maybe there is nothing there. Since they seem to be handing the information over to contractors you would think some of them would be finding enough that the head cheeses would come forward.

I can't help but get the feeling they are all in this to protect some shielded entity.

Anti Federalist
01-05-2014, 12:07 PM
It's my understanding that they have a complete duplicate of everything that passes on the Internet.

Deciphering it all would be near impossible, I would imagine. Though if they haven't shown an interest in what has passed by the Honorable Senator Sanders little point on the web, I'm sure a statement like this could trigger interest.

That's what that new multi billion dollar facility in Utah is for.

It's Total Information Awareness...you know, that program that got leaked around 2007 and they swore they were shutting down, in the face of "public pressure".

Yah, that's right, they just went ahead and did it anyways.

"So, fuck all of you, what are you gonna do about it? Now, move the fuck along, maggots." - NSA Field Agent Friendly.

Anti Federalist
01-05-2014, 12:09 PM
This police state is a fully functioning tyranny and barely anyone cares.

Plenty of people care.

This is just what they want.

enhanced_deficit
01-05-2014, 03:35 PM
Naa, such a violation of civil liberties could not happen in America. It is probably just co-incidence that Harry Reid/SWC team et all seemed to know all Tea Party/GOP congress members moves ahead of time during recent gov stand offs.

FrankRep
01-05-2014, 04:25 PM
http://www.thenewamerican.com/media/k2/items/cache/4a6abf938ab48f62ebdccf881c375b43_M.jpg (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/17323-nsa-admits-spying-on-congressional-phone-habits)



Sen. Bernie Sanders asked the NSA if it collects phone records of members of Congress, and CNN received a response claiming they do because “Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all U.S. persons.”


NSA Admits Spying on Congressional Phone Habits (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/17323-nsa-admits-spying-on-congressional-phone-habits)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
05 January 2014

ghengis86
01-05-2014, 04:32 PM
http://www.thenewamerican.com/media/k2/items/cache/4a6abf938ab48f62ebdccf881c375b43_M.jpg (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/17323-nsa-admits-spying-on-congressional-phone-habits)



Sen. Bernie Sanders asked the NSA if it collects phone records of members of Congress, and CNN received a response claiming they do because “Members of Congress have the same privacy protections as all U.S. persons.”


NSA Admits Spying on Congressional Phone Habits (http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/17323-nsa-admits-spying-on-congressional-phone-habits)


The New American (http://www.thenewamerican.com/)
05 January 2014

Okay, that's one thing, but lets follow this rabbit hole all the way down:

WHAT ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND THE SUPREME COURT?! WHAT ABOUT THE JOINT CHEIFS?

WHO THE FUCK IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY?!

FrankRep
01-05-2014, 04:42 PM
Flashback:

The NSA Spied On Barack Obama in 2004, Says Russ Tice (http://www.businessinsider.com/the-nsa-spied-on-barack-obama-2004-russ-tice-2013-6)

Business Insider
Jun. 22, 2013



Russ Tice worked as an offensive National Security Agency (NSA) analyst from 2002 to 2005, before becoming a source for this Pulitzer Prize-winning New York Times article (http://www.pulitzer.org/archives/7040) exposing NSA domestic spying.

This week he appeared on the Boiling Frogs Show (http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/06/19/podcast-show-112-nsa-whistleblower-goes-on-record-reveals-new-information-names-culprits/) and detailed how he had his hands "in the nitty-gritty, the nuts and bolts" during his 20 years as a U.S. intelligence analyst.

Tice claimed that he held NSA wiretap orders targeting numerous members of the U.S. government, including one for a young senator from Illinois named Barack Obama.
...

Tice added that he also saw orders to spy on Hillary Clinton, Senators John McCain and Diane Feinstein, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell, Gen. David Petraeus, and a current Supreme Court Justice.

That sounds like a lot of abuse of the rules that govern NSA domestic spying. And that's exactly what Tice is claiming.
...

tod evans
01-05-2014, 04:45 PM
WHO THE FUCK IS RUNNING THIS COUNTRY?!

I can assure you I'm not....

ghengis86
01-05-2014, 05:25 PM
Well, it's pretty clear all the visible pols are truly the puppets we all knew they were. Now, lets shed some light on the invisible.

Gen Alexander and the Clapper fellow; to whom do they report? Surely not Barry Soetoro. Surely not the Joint Chiefs (although its possible if the MIC is calling the shots for Barry).

ClydeCoulter
01-05-2014, 05:51 PM
I can assure you I'm not....

Ha! Just what I thought you'd say! They always say that...denial...denial...denial! :D

tod evans
01-05-2014, 05:54 PM
Ha! Just what I thought you'd say! They always say that...denial...denial...denial! :D

5 minutes with the magic wand...........That's all I need to make a long lasting batch of changes...:cool:

milgram
01-05-2014, 07:46 PM
I'm surprised the NSA was even that forthcoming about what's apparently a classified question:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOiBe_JzUVo


And speaking of Bernie, here a nice floor speech he gave regarding the recent defense budget:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KeReGOhUWk

ghengis86
01-05-2014, 08:28 PM
Well, in fairness, they didn't answer the classified question. They pulled the "answer the question you wanted them to ask".

FUCKERS