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CaseyJones
12-31-2013, 08:49 PM
http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2013/12/31/marijuana-opponents-predict-hogwild-colorado-trainwreck


Colorado will make history Wednesday as the first American state allowing stores to sell marijuana for recreational use – eliciting fear and predictions of doom from anti-drug campaigners.

On a Tuesday conference call hosted by Smart Approaches to Marijuana, former Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., said Colorado and Washington state – where stores will open later in 2014 – are "canaries in the coal mine."

"There are a lot of 'unintended consequences'... that will make them ponder whether this was the right decision," Kennedy said, predicting more traffic accidents, increased school truancy, higher drop-out rates and a general decrease in public health.

Kevin Sabet, who co-founded SAM with Kennedy after advising the Clinton, George W. Bush and Obama administrations on drug policy, said "we see tomorrow as the dawn of big marijuana in Colorado. ... In Denver it seems like it's going to be going hogwild."

"We've gone through 80 years of defeat by an industry – big tobacco... [that] perpetuated this myth that smoking was safe, for a time smoking was medicine, and we're seeing it again with marijuana," he said.

Sabet predicts marijuana shops will attempt to create addicts to bolster their bottom line.

"The only way to make money is from addiction," he said, comparing future marijuana sales tactics to casinos luring in gamblers. "They have to produce addiction in order to increase their profits and in order to do that they need to start young."

Sabet said it's "unhealthy and unhelpful" to compare alcohol use to marijuana – a frequent comparison made by supporters of legalization, who point out that violence and death associated with alcohol is vastly greater.

"Alcohol, unlike marijuana, has a very long, widespread history in terms of the vast majority of the populations of Western culture before the Old Testament," Sabet said. Because of that cultural legacy, he said, "we're stuck with alcohol whether we like it or not."

Kennedy, whose grandfather purportedly bootlegged alcohol during Prohibition in the 1920s, said "money corrupts" and the "power and money behind the alcohol industry" makes alcohol policy reform impossible.

WM_in_MO
12-31-2013, 08:52 PM
marijuana shops will attempt to create addicts

Pretty sure it's not a substance that creates a physiological dependence.

phill4paul
12-31-2013, 08:54 PM
I'd say on any given night there is probably at least one bust in CO for some kind of disturbance that involves pot AND alcohol. Whoever that poor soul is tomorrow will make national headlines as an anti-pot poster child.

otherone
12-31-2013, 09:07 PM
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muh_roads
12-31-2013, 09:09 PM
Statists gonna state.

tod evans
01-01-2014, 04:59 AM
Sabet? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Sabet)

This fine specimen of humanity makes his living demonizing weed....

From Wiki;

Sabet is highly controversial, often accused of making inflammatory, biased, and unsupported statements in his crusade to keep marijuana illegal. Examples include repeated assertions that marijuana "addicts 1 in 6 kids" and "contributes to 375,000 emergency room visits" per year. It is noted that he has a personal financial interest in perpetuating his theories, such as promoting his anti-marijuana book on his website, and the speaking and consulting fees he receives. His appointment as assistant professor of psychiatry at the University of Florida is under scrutiny by groups opposed to Sabet, such as Alnernet.org, who note he has no education, no experience, no credentials, and no background in psychiatry.[8]

Suzanimal
01-01-2014, 06:38 AM
I wish I lived in CO today, I could use some weed right about now.

Czolgosz
01-01-2014, 08:46 AM
The plant obsession. L O L

phill4paul
01-01-2014, 09:50 AM
I wish I lived in CO today, I could use some weed right about now.

A friend gave me some "special" cookies last night. They're part of a good breakfast!

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torchbearer
01-01-2014, 12:37 PM
let's see, i predict that no new marijuana smokers, outside the group of people who would have tried it anyway, or going to appear because of legalization.
I do predict that people will go overboard for a lil' while in the same sense a repressed child goes nuts when they first go to college and taste freedom for the first time.

torchbearer
01-01-2014, 12:37 PM
A friend gave me some "special" cookies last night. They're part of a good breakfast!

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Is jealous.

phill4paul
01-01-2014, 12:47 PM
Is jealous.

Is should be. :( I'm about as relaxed as an individual is capable and still function.

torchbearer
01-01-2014, 12:58 PM
I'm about to hitch up the wagon and move west.

Origanalist
01-01-2014, 01:11 PM
Get out of Colorado!!!!!!

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:eek:

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Origanalist
01-01-2014, 01:12 PM
Dupe post

Root
01-01-2014, 01:29 PM
Is should be. :( I'm about as relaxed as an individual is capable and still function.
Edibles are my absolute favorite.

Brian4Liberty
01-01-2014, 01:30 PM
There are a lot of 'unintended consequences'

Quite possible. Will neighbor States put up unconstitutional search and checkpoints on the border?

torchbearer
01-01-2014, 01:31 PM
Edibles are my absolute favorite.

i'm tempted to go there to buy some cooking oil.

Brian4Liberty
01-01-2014, 01:35 PM
Edibles are my absolute favorite.

A life long pot smoker was saying that he did a piece of brownie recently. Said he freaked out for about five hours afterwards. A different guy said it took them ten hours. Would guess that this may happen when people try new products with different dosages.

Root
01-01-2014, 02:25 PM
i'm tempted to go there to buy some cooking oil.
Extra virgin coconut oil.

A life long pot smoker was saying that he did a piece of brownie recently. Said he freaked out for about five hours afterwards. A different guy said it took them ten hours. Would guess that this may happen when people try new products with different dosages.
Sounds like it was too potent. Same thing happened to a friend. I made him a special cookie and told him to only eat half. Of course he ate the whole thing and was tripping for about 8 hours and then took the most epic nap. Lol, good times.

Brian4Liberty
01-01-2014, 02:43 PM
Sounds like it was too potent. Same thing happened to a friend. I made him a special cookie and told him to only eat half. Of course he ate the whole thing and was tripping for about 8 hours and then took the most epic nap. Lol, good times.

Yeah, and digesting it is slightly different than smoking. At least experienced smokers don't go to the hospital because they think they are going to die.

First timers eating brownies or cookies really need to follow dosage advise!

aGameOfThrones
01-01-2014, 02:51 PM
"The only way to make slaves is from addiction," he said, comparing future dependent begging tactics to casinos luring in gamblers. "They have to produce addiction in order to increase their serfs and in order to do that they need to start young."

This is what the gov does.