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anarchy
11-29-2007, 06:50 AM
news.aol.com

ctb619
11-29-2007, 06:51 AM
Why is it that Giuliani always does so well in the aol polls?

markpa
11-29-2007, 06:54 AM
:mad: Dr. Paul is still second

user
11-29-2007, 06:54 AM
You're right, bump!

anarchy
11-29-2007, 06:56 AM
STICKY THIS THREAD PLEASE.. keep bumping it everyone!

user
11-29-2007, 07:07 AM
bump

cradle2graveconservative
11-29-2007, 07:13 AM
I get the feeling people don't understand that they shouldn't be voting for Ron Paul in the poll on the right-hand side. Are people just blindly voting for Paul without even reading what the question is? He shouldn't be second in the right-hand poll, if only because he didn't have nearly enough time in the first place to really give a bad account of himself.

qwerty
11-29-2007, 07:13 AM
Voted!

ButchHowdy
11-29-2007, 07:13 AM
Why is it that Giuliani always does so well in the aol polls?

AOL = Time Warner = Zionist leadership that Ted Turner regrets opening the door to . . . .

drfarrington
11-29-2007, 07:13 AM
Giuliani also gets first place for who did the worst :)

(Plus, he gets a higher Worst percentage)

anarchy
11-29-2007, 07:29 AM
Well the reason why that happened was because they named the 2 votes 'vote for the winner' at the start, and paul had massive people voting on both of them of course. Then they changed the poll to the right to 'whos the looser'. Saw it with my own eyes..

qwerty
11-29-2007, 08:08 AM
third!

JT1
11-29-2007, 08:14 AM
I get the feeling people don't understand that they shouldn't be voting for Ron Paul in the poll on the right-hand side. Are people just blindly voting for Paul without even reading what the question is? He shouldn't be second in the right-hand poll, if only because he didn't have nearly enough time in the first place to really give a bad account of himself.

I certainly hope people ARE NOT doing that.

I think Thompson needs some WORST votes on the right because he deserves to at least be in 2nd for that ;)

JT1
11-29-2007, 08:18 AM
Poll just under that only has 623 votes :P

What is your opinion of Rudy Giuliani?
Negative 63%
Positive 27%
Neutral 10%

Total Votes: 623

tmg19103
11-29-2007, 08:34 AM
From the results below, this is great. AOL is HUGE so it is tough for us to dominate this poll. From the results below as of 9:23am you get a good feel that RP is right in the middle, albeit with the voting being a concerted one vote effort by RP supporters though forums.

However, I'd say 40% of the RP supporters will get out and actually cast a vote. I'd put the percentage who would vote higher, but I am taking into account people who may have forgotten or not realized they need to be registered Republican in closed primaries - or RP would probably have a 70% plus turnout.

What do we think Huck, Mitt and Rudy will get? a 10% turnout? These results also show that those three will divide up the necon vote, which is key. If RP gets a 40% vote turnout he is at, per the below, 5,637 while Rudy, Huck and Mitt are at 1505, 1451 and 1199 respectively for 10% voter turnout.

Will RP blow away the field by that much? Doubtful, but it is an example that if RP is running neck-to-neck or even close to it he will win with his voter turnout.


Did best:

Rudy Giuliani 21% 15,051
Mike Huckabee 20% 14,512
Ron Paul 20% 14,093
Mitt Romney 17% 11,998
Fred Thompson 10% 6,981
John McCain 9% 6,708
Tom Tancredo 2% 1,150
Duncan Hunter 1% 1,029

Did worst:

Rudy Giuliani 32% 20,876
Ron Paul 14% 9,095
Fred Thompson 14% 8,879
Mitt Romney 13% 8,622
Tom Tancredo 10% 6,311
John McCain 8% 5,026
Duncan Hunter 6% 3,854
Mike Huckabee 4% 2,528

brogging4paul
11-29-2007, 08:49 AM
Here in Germany so I didn't get to watch the debate live, and am now catching up. I've watched about 45 minutes of the debate on youtube so far and now the rest of the vids are not availabe. So, I come to the forums to get some more news about the debate and go to vote in this AOL poll and see that both polls are asking the same question: Who did worst? Anybody else have this?

Ginobili
11-29-2007, 08:52 AM
Yep. We got the who did worst question, its probally rigged so they can spin it so that people who just click ron paul because he is..well... ron paul... well, anywayas, they can spin it so that it looks like Ron Paul was the worst canidate, ignoring the fact that if you didn't read, it was pretty rigged.

werdd
11-29-2007, 09:06 AM
they rigged their poll last week, what makes us think they arent doing it again, screw AOL.

tmg19103
11-29-2007, 09:21 AM
Yep. We got the who did worst question, its probally rigged so they can spin it so that people who just click ron paul because he is..well... ron paul... well, anywayas, they can spin it so that it looks like Ron Paul was the worst canidate, ignoring the fact that if you didn't read, it was pretty rigged.

Actually, I think it is a good thing that RP is up high in the "who did worst" field. Note that Hillary is the clear Dem. front runner but 40% of Dems say they would never vote for her. Note the Rudy is considered the Rep. Front runner and he leads in best and worst above.

This tells me that RP is a true front runner where people have really taken notice. A lot of necons don't like him and will vote worst, but when you are high up with both best and worst this tells me you are a front runner because a good percentage is afraid of you.

RoyalShock
11-29-2007, 09:29 AM
Isn't AOL a bit of a "nanny" service as far as ISPs go?

That could explan the love for Ghouliani.

jmag
11-29-2007, 10:16 AM
vote Ron Paul!

http://news.aol.com/?feature=20071128120609990001

ItsTime
11-29-2007, 10:17 AM
wow those other guys are really spamming this one huh?

kevman657
11-29-2007, 10:45 AM
He is now at #3 and is almost winning the worst. VOTE NOW!!!

JosephTheLibertarian
11-29-2007, 10:47 AM
Why is it that Giuliani always does so well in the aol polls?

because AOL users are retarded. It's not enough that they are window users... it just adds insult to injury

Matthew Zak
11-29-2007, 11:06 AM
Last I saw he dropped to #3

paulitics
11-29-2007, 11:06 AM
From the results below, this is great. AOL is HUGE so it is tough for us to dominate this poll. From the results below as of 9:23am you get a good feel that RP is right in the middle, albeit with the voting being a concerted one vote effort by RP supporters though forums.

However, I'd say 40% of the RP supporters will get out and actually cast a vote. I'd put the percentage who would vote higher, but I am taking into account people who may have forgotten or not realized they need to be registered Republican in closed primaries - or RP would probably have a 70% plus turnout.

What do we think Huck, Mitt and Rudy will get? a 10% turnout? These results also show that those three will divide up the necon vote, which is key. If RP gets a 40% vote turnout he is at, per the below, 5,637 while Rudy, Huck and Mitt are at 1505, 1451 and 1199 respectively for 10% voter turnout.

Will RP blow away the field by that much? Doubtful, but it is an example that if RP is running neck-to-neck or even close to it he will win with his voter turnout.


Did best:

Rudy Giuliani 21% 15,051
Mike Huckabee 20% 14,512
Ron Paul 20% 14,093
Mitt Romney 17% 11,998
Fred Thompson 10% 6,981
John McCain 9% 6,708
Tom Tancredo 2% 1,150
Duncan Hunter 1% 1,029

Did worst:

Rudy Giuliani 32% 20,876
Ron Paul 14% 9,095
Fred Thompson 14% 8,879
Mitt Romney 13% 8,622
Tom Tancredo 10% 6,311
John McCain 8% 5,026
Duncan Hunter 6% 3,854
Mike Huckabee 4% 2,528


yeah but we are about 10 times as likely to vote in an internet poll. But, at least it seems that Giuliani negative numbers are growing. Huckabee is a strong 2nd place, right behind Giuliani nationally right now.

Captain Shays
11-29-2007, 11:16 AM
they keep nixing my comments. and believe me. none of my comments could be considered offensive in any way. something weird is going on there at aol

Matt Collins
11-29-2007, 11:35 AM
This sucks

time4change
11-29-2007, 11:48 AM
Well the reason why that happened was because they named the 2 votes 'vote for the winner' at the start, and paul had massive people voting on both of them of course. Then they changed the poll to the right to 'whos the looser'. Saw it with my own eyes..Yep, I got the same thing. Something fishy is going on there. Wish I'd taken a screenshot of it. Both choices asked, who was the winner? Then after refreshing the page, it showed one side for who lost, and the other for who won. Gotta love these AOL "polls."

jmag
11-29-2007, 11:52 AM
Diebold must be running the polls there.

bolidew
11-29-2007, 12:41 PM
Come on, how can we let RP drop to #3 ?!!!

Midnight77
11-29-2007, 12:44 PM
Come on, how can we let RP drop to #3 ?!!!

Because Huck and Ghouliani's supporters spammed the polls like you wouldn't believe. I was in there as this was happening and they were getting like 200 votes a minute. It was ridiculous. Same thing happened last time which put them in first place.

We have to fix this today as people are looking at the site today.

Midnight77
11-29-2007, 12:51 PM
We need to vote for Mitt Romney for the Worst Debate Performance. Don't vote for Giuliani in this one. We need more people ahead of Ron Paul, who is in 2nd place. We need to vote for Romney and then Thompson.

Midnight77
11-29-2007, 01:01 PM
Looks like the AOL site crashed.

Interesting. Serves them right.