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Danke
12-25-2013, 09:01 PM
http://blog.heartland.org/2013/12/epa-falsifies-data-bypasses-its-own-scientists-who-loudly-cry-foul/



EPA Falsifies Data, Bypasses Its Own Scientists Who Loudly Cry Foul
by Jim Lakely
December 24, 2013


Coal plant energy powerYou may recall that when Barack Obama was running for president in 2008, he said he would “bankrupt” the coal-fired energy industry. That would mean everyone’s energy prices would “necessarily skyrocket,” and he thought that was a good thing.

This editorial in the Wall Street Journal the other day (subscription required) shows that Obama’s politicized Environmental Protection Agency is doing all it can to make his promise happen. And to do so, Obama’s EPA is engaging in a War On Science.

According to the WSJ, the EPA “cut out the [agency’s] independent science advisers who exposed the junk science behind the EPA ban on new coal power.”

The EPA Scientific Advisory Board (SAB) recently had a look at the agency’s new “performance standards” from September that impose a 1,000-pound-per-megawatt-hour limit on carbon emissions. Trouble is, even the most modern, clean, and efficient coal-fired plants emit 1,800 pounds per megawatt hour. The EPA’s own hand-picked scientists advised that it was simply not possible for America’s coal plants to meet that standard. The scientists on the EPA’s advisory board said: You’re rigging the game to outlaw all coal plants! Don’t do that!

No matter, said EPA. You scientists say carbon capture technology is “speculative.” Well, we don’t care. Were going to mandate it anyway. Besides, we have “peer review” studies that say we can go ahead with this mandate.

But the SAB pushed back. From the WSJ editorial:


This caught the attention of a fact-finding SAB working group chaired by James Mihelcic of the University of South Florida. In a Nov. 12 memo, the group raised questions about carbon sequestration’s “technical feasibility” and noticed that, in the EPA’s regulatory justification, “the peer review of the scientific and technical information presented for coal-fueled sources appears to be inadequate.”

In its original rule, the EPA had pointed to speculative studies and models out of a research unit in the Energy Department to show that sequestration works. Headquarters assured the SAB panel that these studies had been flyspecked by “industry experts, academia and government research and regulatory agencies.”

Yet when the SAB panel inquired further, the Energy Department revealed that some of the studies had been “peer reviewed” by the EPA itself over a period of just a few weeks and the rest never got an unbiased look. Nor could Energy provide “a documented or publicly available description for this peer review process.” EPA refuses to share the information with the SAB.

This is your taxpayer funded, unscientific EPA at work — destroying affordable energy for all. And the left claims that the right is engaging in a War On Science.

The Obama adminstration should set up a website for complaints about this policy. But it wouldn’t be able to actually accept complaints until about 2016, so what’s the point?

KCIndy
12-25-2013, 09:07 PM
A government agency lied to the public?

I'm shocked. Shocked, I say!! :eek:

tangent4ronpaul
12-25-2013, 09:34 PM
This is totally AWESOME!

First he pushes Obamacare, so people will have to choose between taking their maintenance drugs or pay their utility bill.

Now he wants to make it so they won't be able to afford their utility bill! WIN! :D

and lets not forget that in many parts of the country, the only local power company is coal fired...

and what happens when lots of power is pulled from one region of the country to another? MASSIVE BLACKOUTS! - like the entire East Coast!

This Barry guy is BRILLIANT! - he'll have a lawn full of pitchforks and torches in no time!

Now let me guess - the regulations don't take effect till after Nov 2014 or 2016... :rolleyes:

When this asshole leaves office, I fully expect him to get on national TV and brag about being a fifth columnist and how he managed to destroy the country from within.

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enhanced_deficit
12-25-2013, 09:47 PM
Well if they are deceiving the public for a good cause, Nobel Prize in Deception is in order here..

Zippyjuan
12-26-2013, 01:59 PM
Coal is currently losing out to lower priced natural gas.

Dr.3D
12-26-2013, 03:05 PM
Guess they didn't get the memo. The right is having a war against junk science, not real science. Science with politics mixed in, turns to junk science.

youngbuck
12-26-2013, 03:26 PM
Coal is currently losing out to lower priced natural gas. Umm, so? That's not what the article is about. Natural gas might be cheaper now, but it that going to last forever? Should we gut the coal industry just because natural gas can take over the helm for the time being?

GunnyFreedom
12-26-2013, 04:00 PM
Coal is currently losing out to lower priced natural gas.

Which might be relevant if it were possible to build 500 natural gas plants to replace the 600 coal plants in the space of a couple months, while paying for these NG plants by selling off the coal plants to people who are not going to be allowed to use them.

Zippyjuan
12-26-2013, 07:39 PM
Which might be relevant if it were possible to build 500 natural gas plants to replace the 600 coal plants in the space of a couple months, while paying for these NG plants by selling off the coal plants to people who are not going to be allowed to use them.

600 coal plants shutting in the next couple months?

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/energy-environment/coal-plants-to-shut-down-from-EPA-regulations.html

Coal Plants Affected by EPA Regulations

The Associated Press reports more than 32 mostly coal-fired power plants will close and another 36 plants could also be forced to shut down as a result of new EPA rules regulating air pollution.

Click the icons in the map to view details for each plant affected by the EPA rules. Red icons indicate at least one unit will retire; yellow icons denote at least one unit at a power plant is at risk of retirement.

tangent4ronpaul
12-26-2013, 11:39 PM
600 coal plants shutting in the next couple months?

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/energy-environment/coal-plants-to-shut-down-from-EPA-regulations.html

OK, but from the same page:

EPA Coal Pollution Rule Struck Down in Court
In a 2-1 decision, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit said the rule targeting emissions from coal-fired power plants "exceeds the agency's statutory authority" by requiring some states to clean up more than their fair share of pollution.

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oyarde
12-26-2013, 11:41 PM
EPA needs abolished , let the effing state legislatures sort it out , starting over .

acptulsa
12-26-2013, 11:47 PM
Coal is currently losing out to lower priced natural gas.

And when he shuts down all the coal plants, will natural gas still be cheaper? Or will the law of supply and demand be enforced, as it always is? Tell us, O Oracle--could natural gas possibly remain less than coal when demand for it doubles? Do you have any clue how many coal-fired electrical plants there are in the nation? Any clue at all?

Sounds to me like when BP and their ilk outbid the coal mines for Obama's loyalty, they got their money's worth.

GunnyFreedom
12-26-2013, 11:55 PM
600 coal plants shutting in the next couple months?

http://www.governing.com/gov-data/energy-environment/coal-plants-to-shut-down-from-EPA-regulations.html

That's prior to the emissions regulation that makes it illegal to operate any coal fired power plant in the United States. I'm talking about what happens if the EPA gets their way.