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DamianTV
12-23-2013, 04:59 PM
http://yro.slashdot.org/story/13/12/23/1323212/member-of-president-obamas-nsa-panel-recommends-increased-data-collection


"National Journal reports, 'Michael Morell, the former acting director of the CIA and a member of President Obama's task force on surveillance, said ... that a controversial telephone data-collection program conducted by the National Security Agency should be expanded to include emails. He also said the program, far from being unnecessary, could prevent the next 9/11. Morell, seeking to correct any misperception that the presidential panel had called for a radical curtailment of NSA programs, said he is in favor of restarting a program that the NSA discontinued in 2011 that involved the collection of "meta-data" for internet communications. ... "I would argue actually that the email data is probably more valuable than the telephony data," ... Morell also said that while he agreed with the report's conclusion that the telephone data program, conducted under Section 215 of the Patriot Act, made "only a modest contribution to the nation's security" so far, it should be continued under the new safeguards recommended by the panel. "I would argue that what effectiveness we have seen to date is totally irrelevant to how effective it might be in the future," he said. "This program, 215, has the ability to stop the next 9/11 and if you added emails in there it would make it even more effective. Had it been in place in 2000 and 2001, I think that probably 9/11 would not have happened."' — More at Politico and National Review. Some members of Congress have a different view. Even Russian President Putin has weighed in with both a zing and a defense."

Their application of the word "Reform" seems to be the exact opposite of its intended purpose.

enhanced_deficit
12-23-2013, 05:02 PM
SWC DDK Obama really knows how to pick them:


CIA's #2: Syrian Rebels are the Top Threat to U.S. (http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/170668)
www.israelnationalnews.com (http://www.israelnationalnews.com)
Aug 7, 2013 - Michael Morell, says the Syrian civil war is now the greatest threat to U.S. national security ...



The Rise of Another CIA Yes Man (http://www.counterpunch.org/2011/08/30/the-rise-of-another-cia-yes-man/)by RAY McGOVERN As Gen. David Petraeus prepares to take the helm at CIA in September, he can expect unswerving loyalty from his likely deputy, Michael Morell, who has been acting director since July when Leon Panetta left to become Secretary of Defense.
Like many senior CIA officials in recent years, Morell’s record is checkered, at best. He held key jobs in intelligence analysis over the past decade as the CIA often served as a handmaiden to the war propagandists.

kathy88
12-23-2013, 05:42 PM
SWC DDK Obama really knows how to pick them:
You are trying WAY too hard to make your acronyms a "thing." Please stop. It annoys me.

iFree
12-23-2013, 05:49 PM
"He also said the program, far from being unnecessary, could prevent the next 9/11."

Or just bring troops home and close down bases.

Some evidence that existing NSA programs have even prevented a single terrorist attack would be nice too.

kathy88
12-23-2013, 05:58 PM
"He also said the program, far from being unnecessary, could prevent the next 9/11."

Or just bring troops home and close down bases.

Some evidence that existing NSA programs have even prevented a single terrorist attack would be nice too.LOL. They had DIRECT warning about 911 not crap they illegally obtained and still couldn't get their shit together to prevent it.

HOLLYWOOD
12-23-2013, 07:37 PM
They're all part of 'Team Tyranny'... Obama-Bush, GOP-DNC... it's about power and control.

Morell mist feel like crap since he was passed over numerous times as Director of the CIA, even when he was 'Acting Director' between all the gaps. I wonder why they didn't put him in permanently? Too much of a tyrannical zealot? Sounds like it this past week.

NSA recommendation report aka 'The Inmates are guarding the prison': http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?436103-NSA-recommendations-report

milgram
12-24-2013, 02:16 AM
Here's an interview with Sascha Meinrath (New America Foundation) who advised Obama's review panel.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlTrM5lUGGM

http://www.democracynow.org/2013/12/17/as_judge_rules_nsa_surveillance_almost


SASCHA MEINRATH: I’m one of the 47 technologists that wrote a letter to the president saying we need technological acumen on a technological review committee. That was ignored, unfortunately. I was also very concerned about the notion that intelligence community insiders, administration officials comprise the entirety of this five-member group. And I do not see how you can do a truly independent review of surveillance when so many people are tied in. And this is, I think, epitomized by the fact that this review group is housed under James Clapper, under the very agency that it is supposed to be independently reviewing.

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[W]hat I saw over the course of this review group process is not necessarily a malfeasance of the individuals involved—I actually think that they are driven by a heartfelt desire to do good—but a process that is so completely skewed that the outcome itself is almost preordained. I do not see how, at the outset, they’d set up a process that would allow for a truly independent analysis, much less a walk back of a lot of the surveillance that’s happening, or major, meaningful reforms that would cease and desist the kind of surveillance that we believe, and now a federal judge agrees, is unconstitutional.

enhanced_deficit
12-24-2013, 02:26 PM
You are trying WAY too hard to make your acronyms a "thing." Please stop. It annoys me.

Thank you for your comment. Putting a temporary moratorium on use of freedom acronyms until further review.

Had not got such feedback earlier but list was in Off Topic section:
Freedom Acronyms - OFC (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?427800-Freedom-Acronyms-OFC&)