You'll Never Guess Where This FBI Agent Left a Secret Interrogation Manual

[CaseyJones]

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/12/fbi-copyrighted-interrogation-manual-unredacted-secrets


In a lapse that national security experts call baffling, a high-ranking FBI agent filed a sensitive internal manual detailing the bureau's secret interrogation procedures with the Library of Congress, where anyone with a library card can read it.
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The version of the interrogation manual the agent deposited with the copyright office is dated August 18, 2008, but it wasn't filed until January 2010. The redacted version released to the ACLU is dated February 23, 2011.

Because the two versions are similar, a side-by-side comparison allows a reader to deduce what was redacted in the later version. The copyright office does not allow readers to take pictures or notes, but during a brief inspection, a few redactions stood out.

more at link

[angelatc]

The Library of Congress should be taken out to the nearest oak tree.

[angelatc]

Another section, blacked out in the version provided to the ACLU, encourages FBI agents to stage a "date-stamped full-body picture" of a detainee, complete with a bottle of water, for use in refuting abuse allegations at trial. ..

[Suzanimal]

"The whole thing is a comedy of errors," he adds. "It sounds like gross incompetence and ignorance."

That pretty much describes the whole government.

[tod evans]

But, but...........Think of all the children they're protecting.:rolleyes:

[Matt Collins]

It's my understanding that the FBI doesn't actually record interrogations. But in court they simply rely on the notes from the agents who were present.


If the defendant has an attorney, a common practice is to demand to record any questioning. The FBI prohibits it, so therefore they won't question the suspect.


At least that's what I read either at Cato, or IJ, or Lew Rockwell, or somewhere like that.

[Philhelm]

The FBI agent should be swinging from an oak tree.

[angelatc]

That pretty much describes the whole government.


Yeah. These are the same people who are allegedly able to orchestrate incredibly complex conspiracies?

[mczerone]

Yeah. These are the same people who are allegedly able to orchestrate incredibly complex conspiracies?

But having techniques to lie about detainees by fabricating info ISN'T a conspiracy?

[Luciconsort]

Yeah. These are the same people who are allegedly able to orchestrate incredibly complex conspiracies?

Special Agent Barney Fife, at your service.

[Grubb556]

Good for him for making government docs available in the Library of Congress.

[evilfunnystuff]

Yeah. These are the same people who are allegedly able to orchestrate incredibly complex conspiracies?

No...

... but there are powerful people who will use folks like this agent that have more power/resources than brains.

When using them they will keep them entirely compartmentalized never letting them know enough to catch on, then if they think maybe this person(s) is to smart for their own good or possibly picked up on something, they just "Seal Team Six 'em"

You can argue what conspiracies may or may not transpire, but to deny any is very foolish.

[Occam's Banana]

It's my understanding that the FBI doesn't actually record interrogations. But in court they simply rely on the notes from the agents who were present.

If the defendant has an attorney, a common practice is to demand to record any questioning. The FBI prohibits it, so therefore they won't question the suspect.

At least that's what I read either at Cato, or IJ, or Lew Rockwell, or somewhere like that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMZrdyCWu7M


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMZrdyCWu7M

[hated]

It's my understanding that the FBI doesn't actually record interrogations. But in court they simply rely on the notes from the agents who were present.

If the defendant has an attorney, a common practice is to demand to record any questioning. The FBI prohibits it, so therefore they won't question the suspect.

At least that's what I read either at Cato, or IJ, or Lew Rockwell, or somewhere like that.

Lew Rockwell did do an interview with Harvey Silverglate on the subject. Very good.
Listen Here ("http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/harvey-silverglate-on-legal-terror/')

[Occam's Banana]

You can argue what conspiracies may or may not transpire, but to deny any is very foolish.

To be fair, Angela did not deny that "any" consipiracies transpire. She specifically referred to "incredibly complex" consipiracies.

The matter is further complicated by considerations of what, exactly, is being denoted by words like "orchestrate" or "transpire."
Has a conspiracy ("incredibly complex" or otherwise) "transpired" or been "orchestrated" if it is plotted but never executed?
If it is executed (and the gross material objective accomplished), is it a "success" or a "failure" if people suspect something?
Are descriptors like "comptent" or "incompetent" to be applied to achievement of the objective - or achievement of total secrecy? Both? Neither?

:confused:

Questions like this is why arguments over conspiracies (especially in the competence/incompetence dimension) are so fruitlessly pointless.
No one on either side ever seems to clearly & precisely define exactly what is meant by the terms they use.

[Occam's Banana]

Lew Rockwell did do an interview with Harvey Silverglate on the subject. Very good.
Listen Here (http://"http://www.lewrockwell.com/podcast/harvey-silverglate-on-legal-terror/')

Side note: He's the same guy in the video I posted.

[youngbuck]

So did this manual ever end up available for download on the internet?

[DamianTV]

Do not talk to Cops, or FBI.

If anyone cares to find it, there is a video where it is explained where cops are trained to take everything that a person says and twist it out of context to the point where innocent statements can be used in court to condemn them.

Problem is, it isnt limited to just Cops or FBI. With the Total Surveillance of the NSA and FBI, we might just have to change the statement to "Do not talk, period". Anything and everything a person says or does can be twisted and used to condemn them. And this is definitely not the change nor solution that is at the heart of a free society.

[hated]

Side note: He's the same guy in the video I posted.

Yeah, I noticed that. He does good work.