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curtisag
11-29-2007, 02:28 AM
I was just floored on how well Ron Paul handled the conspiracy question about the north american union. And look at the smirk on anderson cooper's face at the beginning, then look at the stern and concerned looks on his face when the crowd erupts with a roar after Ron gives his answer. It was GREAT!!!

Give 'em hell Ron!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOZIGPUPQVc&eurl=http://www.youtube.com/republicandebate

derdy
11-29-2007, 02:36 AM
It was even better when they got the shot with Fred Thompson and all his globalist buddies looking on all stiff and nervous!

sharedvoice
11-29-2007, 02:38 AM
I was just floored on how well Ron Paul handled the conspiracy question about the north american union. And look at the smirk on anderson cooper's face at the beginning, then look at the stern and concerned looks on his face when the crowd erupts with a roar after Ron gives his answer. It was GREAT!!!

Give 'em hell Ron!

Oh I agree 110% This was the best answer to all the questions during tonight's debate.

john_anderson_ii
11-29-2007, 02:41 AM
Ron Paul has a way of completely destroying weighted and pointed questions with simple facts. This question required only 4 facts.

1.) The CFR as an organization does exist, and their members have a tendency to lean toward globalism.

2.) Construction has begun on a trans-Texan corridor which could one day become a highway from Canada to Mexico.

3.) Our foreign policy is currently leaning toward supporting stronger global governing bodies.

4.) This concerns Dr. Paul because of the potential these types of trends have, not because he believes evil men lurk in secret rooms planning these things.


Great response.

Man from La Mancha
11-29-2007, 02:43 AM
It was even better when they got the shot with Fred Thompson and all his globalist buddies looking on all stiff and nervous!
Agreed all the other candidates at the beginning of Ron's answer seemed fidgety like some sacred ground one should not be talking about was being step on.


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wisconsinite
11-29-2007, 02:45 AM
He handled very well what seemed to be an obvious shot to discredit him.

curtisag
11-29-2007, 02:46 AM
Ron Paul has a way of completely destroying weighted and pointed questions with simple facts. This question required only 4 facts.

1.) The CFR as an organization does exist, and their members have a tendency to lean toward globalism.

2.) Construction has begun on a trans-Texan corridor which could one day become a highway from Canada to Mexico.

3.) Our foreign policy is currently leaning toward supporting stronger global governing bodies.

4.) This concerns Dr. Paul because of the potential these types of trends have, not because he believes evil men lurk in secret rooms planning these things.


Great response.

The only thing missing in my mind is the fact that Mr. Bush met secretively with the President of Mexico and the Canadian Prime Minister several times at his ranch. According to what I have read, documents were signed by all 3. What those documents were I don't know. But you can bet that our sovereignty was being undermined.

Man from La Mancha
11-29-2007, 02:47 AM
Did you see after the debates the attempt of the media to defuse those facts?

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curtisag
11-29-2007, 02:47 AM
Ron Paul cannot be Kucinich'ed or UFOed, he is invincible because he speaks the truth with conviction and prowess.

Kuldebar
11-29-2007, 02:50 AM
Jeffey Toobin(sp?) in post debate coverage on CNN made the comment that NAMU/NAFTA Super Highway were all in Ron Paul's mind and made a comment that serious candidates were needed, etc.

And this is the same network that employs Lou Dobbs? Is Dobbs delusional as well, like Paul?

Of course, Cooper failed to bring that up to Toobin(sp?).

sidcrowe
11-29-2007, 02:51 AM
Here's what I posted to youtube. I'm gonna spread it around:

CNN will be reading this for a day after, so to THEM, and US:

We saw what they tried to do, and OUR MAN RON PAUL still shone through like the champ he is.

Friends, the next best thing to taking your fist and ramming it into the guts of these bastards is to take your credit card out of its sheath and donate to Ron Paul. A little for now, and write a big note to yourself for the December 16 Tea Party.

Years ago, I read a Charlie Brown comic strip. Charlie was talking about how people can get along, and other good things, and then Lucy hauled off and punched him.

"I had to hit him. He was starting to make sense," she said.

During a song, the comedy team the Smothers Brothers stopped the song, and then Tom said to Dick, "Take it!"

Dick replied: "I'm an American. I don't have to take it."

Go Ron Paul.

curtisag
11-29-2007, 02:53 AM
Jeffey Toobin(sp?) in post debate coverage on CNN made the comment that NAMU/NAFTA Super Highway were all in Ron Paul's mind and made a comment that serious candidates were needed, etc.

And this is the same network that employs Lou Dobbs? Is Dobbs delusional as well, like Paul?

Of course, Cooper failed to bring that up to Toobin(sp?).

That guy was just an uninformed idiot. EVERYBODY knows about the NAFTA super highway. Why is this regarded as a conspiracy when it's very out in the open?

Man from La Mancha
11-29-2007, 02:56 AM
That guy was just an uninformed idiot. EVERYBODY knows about the NAFTA super highway. Why is this regarded as a conspiracy when it's very out in the open?Because 95% of the people don' know it.


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sixpackrt
11-29-2007, 03:03 AM
Posted: September 10, 2007
1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Jerome R. Corsi
© 2007 WorldNetDaily.com

Official Mexican government reports reveal Mexico has entered discussions with the state of Texas and top officials in the Bush administration to extend the Trans-Texas Corridor into Mexico, with a plan to connect through Monterrey to the deep-water Mexican ports on the Pacific, including Manzanillo and Lazaro Cardenas.

The official website of the Mexican northeastern state of Nuevo León contain multiple reports that José Natividad Gonzáles Parás, governor of the Mexican state of Nuevo León, has actively discussed with numerous U.S. government officials, including Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the extension of the Trans-Texas Corridor into Mexico to create what's called a "Trans North America Corridor."


Gov. Gonzales Paras and U.S. Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters at Transportes Olympic in February 2007.

In an August trip to Mexico, Perry made news in U.S. media by calling the idea of building a fence along the U.S.-Mexico border "idiocy."

Largely unreported in the American press were meetings Perry held in Mexico with Gonzáles Parás in which the two discussed extending the corridor into Mexico.

In their private meetings, the pair thoroughly discussed extending TTC-35 into Mexico, according to a report on the government's site.

Official Mexican government reports reveal Mexico has entered discussions with the state of Texas and top officials in the Bush administration to extend the Trans-Texas Corridor into Mexico, with a plan to connect through Monterrey to the deep-water Mexican ports on the Pacific, including Manzanillo and Lazaro Cardenas.

The official website of the Mexican northeastern state of Nuevo León contain multiple reports that José Natividad Gonzáles Parás, governor of the Mexican state of Nuevo León, has actively discussed with numerous U.S. government officials, including Texas Gov. Rick Perry, Secretary of Transportation Mary Peters and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, the extension of the Trans-Texas Corridor into Mexico to create what's called a "Trans North America Corridor."

In an August trip to Mexico, Perry made news in U.S. media by calling the idea of building a fence along the U.S.-Mexico border "idiocy."

Largely unreported in the American press were meetings Perry held in Mexico with Gonzáles Parás in which the two discussed extending the corridor into Mexico.

In their private meetings, the pair thoroughly discussed extending TTC-35 into Mexico, according to a report on the government's site.

In an interview prior to Perry's visit, Gonzáles Parás made it clear the extension of TTC-35 into Mexico would be a discussed during Perry's time there.

"We have had interaction with the governor of Texas," Gonzáles Parás said. "We have had a very productive relationship with Rick Perry, who is also interested in what we can do to continue that which is known as the Trans-Texas Corridor, that in reality is the corridor of North America, the Trans North America Corridor, that includes railroads, bridges, passenger automobile highways, and truck highway lanes."

Gonzáles Parás further explained the extension of TTC-35 into Mexico would connect through Monterrey, a city which he suggested would function as a hub for truck-freight traffic. Monterrey is the capital of Nuevo León.

"One of the themes that merited the most attention on the part of the two governors was the development of the infrastructure needed for the competitive development of the region as it relates to developing the Trans-Texas Corridor in connection with the project we call the Corridor of Northeastern Mexico," the Nuevo León government website reported Gonzáles Parás saying Sept. 1, at the conclusion of Perry's visit.

Gonzáles Parás is reportedly pursuing plans to establish Monterrey as an "inland port" where international container freight cargo, largely delivered into Mexico via the Mexican ports on the Pacific, could be transported via a Trans North America Corridor into the United States via Laredo, Texas.

Once on I-35, the Mexican trucks transporting the Chinese containers could travel north, heading toward U.S. inland ports, such as WND has previously reported are being established by the Free Trade Alliance San Antonio in San Antonio and in Kansas City by the Kansas City SmartPort.

http://www.wnd.com/images2/nasco.jpg

On May 24, Gonzáles Parás announced during his recent meetings in Austin, Perry had agreed the envisioned Trans North America Corridor would pass through Laredo and connect with San Antonio, just as Mexico ultimately planned to extend the superhighway south into Colombia.

"We have also worked in Monterrey to create an inland port, a metropolitan center for moving rapidly the commercial traffic from Monterrey to the inland port at San Antonio," Gonzáles Parás said in the state-published interview."For this strategic project to be accomplished, we have been working with the federal government in Mexico and well as holding discussions with the secretary of transportation and the secretary of state in the United States."

WND has previously reported similar comments made by Gonzáles Parás at a Feb. 22 press conference in Mexico that first announced Transportes Olympic had been selected as the first trucking firm to cross the border in the Mexican truck-demonstration project.

In speaking to the group assembled at the company's headquarters, Gonzáles Parás announced the Trans-Texas Corridor was not just the NAFTA Superhighway, but "the Logistical Trans-Corridor of North America," uniting Mexico, the United States and Canada.

He next announced the time had arrived to declare a North American Economic Community.

Gonzáles Parás explained the Trans-Texas Corridor was more accurately known in Mexico as the "Logistical Trans-Corridor of North America."

"I want to let you know how much we in this border state of Nuevo León have been working with our neighbor state of Texas," he said, "making agreements which permit us to enrich what in Texas is called the 'Trans-Texas Corridor,' but what we in Mexico know as the 'Logistical Corridor of North America.'"

"We – Canada, the United States and Mexico – have to perfect this Logistical Trans-Corridor of North America for our mutual benefit," Gonzáles Parás continued.

He expanded his vision of a Logistical Corridor of North America to include the construction of a train and truck corridor that would cut through the heart of North America.

WND has previously described as a new NAFTA Superhighway, the first segment of which is the planned four-football-fields-wide Trans-Texas Corridor which the Texas Department of Transportation plans to build parallel to Interstate 35.

WND has also reported that at the recent Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) third summit held in Montebello, Quebec, President Bush and Canada's Prime Minister Stephen Harper ridiculed the idea that SPP might result in the creation of a North American Union or NAFTA Superhighways.

These reports in Spanish published on the Nuevo León government website suggest that discussions about extending TTC-35 into Mexico are much further advanced that have been admitted by the Bush administration or reported upon in the U.S. mainstream media.

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57548

derdy
11-29-2007, 03:17 AM
There's news clips in this documentary of the meetings in Cancun, Mexico and Waco, Texas.

At one point the Canadian prime minister is asked by a reporter, "Isn't this a North American Union?"

He totally dodges the question :rolleyes:


Part I & II
h ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2268341860482102257
Part III
h ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7025644754994004363
Part IV
h ttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-521101811626076431&q=pretext+for+the+north+american+union&total=8&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

chefphil
11-29-2007, 03:23 AM
Our sovereignty is under attack. If Paul did nothing else as potus it would be enough.

The corporatists and their lackey politicians are selling this country down the river. Paul is speaking out against it. That's why they are lock step against him. He's blowing the whistle on their traitorous asses. His support comes from people like you and I. He's not heavily backed by corporate interests.

chefphil
11-29-2007, 03:24 AM
NAFTA Super Highway
http://www.fwweekly.com/content.asp?article=4526


It's not a theory in fort worth, it's real.

chefphil
11-29-2007, 03:25 AM
http://www.nascocorridor.com/

This is a reality not a conspiracy theory. It exists now.

chefphil
11-29-2007, 03:26 AM
http://www.spp.gov/

chefphil
11-29-2007, 03:29 AM
http://www.nascocorridor.com/pages/ports_network/ports_network.htm

curtisag
11-29-2007, 03:30 AM
This issue is big enough to blow the entire nomination away and take all the others by surprise. If we can convince the media this thing is for real, because I believe some of them truly have no idea, we can bust out with an enormous issue in our favor and build upon this momentum. I suggest an email bomb campaign to every media pundit, every major reporter, to educate them on the NAFTA super highway and the plans for a NAU. We don't have to be afraid of this issue or be afraid of being labeled conspiracy nuts. This is a reality and is backed up by facts.

Kuldebar
11-29-2007, 03:36 AM
This issue is big enough to blow the entire nomination away and take all the others by surprise. If we can convince the media this thing is for real, because I believe some of them truly have no idea, we can bust out with an enormous issue in our favor and build upon this momentum. I suggest an email bomb campaign to every media pundit, every major reporter, to educate them on the NAFTA super highway and the plans for a NAU. We don't have to be afraid of this issue or be afraid of being labeled conspiracy nuts. This is a reality and is backed up by facts.

I find it completely insane that CNN Commentators and Anchors can completely ignore the issue when Lou Dobbs has covered the subject many times on his show on CNN... O.o

chefphil
11-29-2007, 03:37 AM
AMEN!!! They all have a lid on it. They may not report it.

freelance
11-29-2007, 03:41 AM
Noun, verb, spp.gov.

sharedvoice
11-29-2007, 03:45 AM
VIDEO: CNN/YouTube FL Debate: Paul on North American Union, CFR, and Conspiracy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3QAC2yJFdM

VIDEIO: McCain, Paul spar on Iraq McCain isolationism created Nazis?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRQ41bKLyzU

Ron Paul rocks!

JesseCRX
11-29-2007, 03:48 AM
Anyone who thinks this is not happening needs to wake up.

Spread this vid around while it's still available and let people judge for themselves

Truth Be Tolled
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=792962976050500387

Malakai0
11-29-2007, 03:55 AM
Do you really think all these reporters and pundits don't know that, say, the governor of texas and government agencies around the country are planning this? Legislation was passed as far back as '03 (that I know of) having to do with the "Nafta Superhighway".

They know, they are paid not to talk about it. Except for Cafferty and Dobbs.


Video bookmarked, I'll watch tomorrow after work!

curtisag
11-29-2007, 04:01 AM
Do you really think all these reporters and pundits don't know that, say, the governor of texas and government agencies around the country are planning this? Legislation was passed as far back as '03 (that I know of) having to do with the "Nafta Superhighway".

They know, they are paid not to talk about it. Except for Cafferty and Dobbs.


Video bookmarked, I'll watch tomorrow after work!

There's no way to enforce a nation-wide ban on talking about this in the media. The fact that Dobbs talks about it freely on his show on CNN PROVES the fact that the media is allowed to discuss it, but they choose not to because they are uninformed and have bought into the idea of conspiracy. If CNN had policy to gag anyone who talked about the super highway, Dobbs would be out of a job. I disagree that we cannot push this issue into the national spotlight. Illegal immigration is already a hot issue, we have to tie that issue to the larger dangers ahead with NAU and the super highway. At the very least, we must produce a TV ad revolving around the issue.

chefphil
11-29-2007, 04:08 AM
http://www.jeffreytoobin.com/

This is the twit that called Paul a kook for talking about it. "it doesn't exist"

ksu_s13
11-29-2007, 04:08 AM
I wrote a huge multi-post argument on Snopes.com (under the screen name Nismobeach), which proved from official and credible sources that it exists, that it was being sold differently to the people in each state that it passes through, where the idea originated from, and the motivation behind it.

In the face of all of that the admin tried to dismiss it as an urban legend, and subsequently banned me from their site.


Fortunately it's still on their site and you can read it here:
http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=4032&page=2


This has to be one of the best arguments I've ever made on the Internet if I do say so myself. :)


With regards to how RP handled the (loaded) question, me and my girlfriend high fived. :D

chefphil
11-29-2007, 04:21 AM
Nice how they made a tin foil hat for you on snopes. Morons. They are still calling it a theory.

Pete
11-29-2007, 07:25 AM
Watching the video, I was impressed with how attentive the audience was during RP's answer. There will be repercussions!

In every debate, it has been amazing how Ron Paul packs such a wealth of information in response to each of the few paltry loaded questions he is asked.

I was dismayed with the debate during the live broadcast, but in hindsight can see that it was a huge win for him.

richard1984
11-29-2007, 09:13 AM
4.) This concerns Dr. Paul because of the potential these types of trends have, not because he believes evil men lurk in secret rooms planning these things.

So if we don't want to call some of these men evil, can we at least acknowledge that they are completely insane?

That's how I figure it, anyway. Most of these ridiculously wealthy, powerful "elite" are literally, clinically psychotic. I imagine that this is the result of both "nature" & "nurture", but I prefer to focus on the experiential aspect. If we were able to really take a look at their lives, we would realize pretty quickly that their lives growing up were really screwed up. When you're raised by heartless monsters, you tend to grow up a heartless monster yourself (not to mention completely detached from "reality" and contact with "normal" people and their lives--which, I suppose, aides in their depersonalization of humanity).

This seems to me like a legitimate way to approach this issue (less "conspiracy," more rationality). You know?