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ronpaulfollower999
12-13-2013, 02:34 PM
Developing...


Authorities believe at least two people have been injured in a shooting at Arapahoe High School in Centennial, Colorado, on Friday, Sheriff Grayson Robinson told CNN affiliate KMGH.
The shooter is still believed to be inside the school, Robinson said.
Schools in the area, part of the Littleton Public Schools system, have been put on lock down, authorities said.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/13/us/colorado-school-shooting/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

ronpaulfollower999
12-13-2013, 02:37 PM
Sandy Hook anniversary is tomorrow.

aGameOfThrones
12-13-2013, 02:38 PM
http://wordpress.bhmschools.org/nkuitu17/files/2013/02/20070502ST2AP-GunFreeZone.jpg

WM_in_MO
12-13-2013, 02:40 PM
inb4 they blame it on weed being legal

angelatc
12-13-2013, 02:41 PM
In before the conspiracy nuts!

*just barely

evandeck
12-13-2013, 02:41 PM
One week earlier, http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/13/21878758-poll-support-for-strict-gun-control-drops-to-pre-newtown-levels

Romulus
12-13-2013, 02:56 PM
One week earlier, http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/12/13/21878758-poll-support-for-strict-gun-control-drops-to-pre-newtown-levels

Right on cue...

devil21
12-13-2013, 03:28 PM
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?435175-Seymour-Hersh-alleges-Obama-admin-lied-about-Syrian-gas-attacks&p=5335370&viewfull=1#post5335370
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/12/13/us/colorado-school-shooting/


_The suspect in the shooting at Arapahoe High School is dead from what appears to have been a self-inflicted gunshot wound, Sheriff Grayson Robinson told reporters.

_At least one person -- a minor -- has been taken to Littleton Adventist Hospital with a gunshot wound, Lauren Brendel, a hospital spokeswoman, told CNN. The age, gender and condition of the minor were not immediately released.

So the shooter injures two people, no deaths reported, yet the shooter still kills himself?

69360
12-13-2013, 03:35 PM
Just another normal day in America. Shooting spree in a "gun-free' zone and a fake terrorist attack.

acptulsa
12-13-2013, 03:55 PM
I'm betting he was on SSRIs.

Any takers?

juleswin
12-13-2013, 04:01 PM
I'm betting he was on SSRIs.

Any takers?

plus he was a loner who was bullied and he is bugg eyed in his school picture.

CPUd
12-13-2013, 04:14 PM
I call false flag. This thing stinks to high heaven.

devil21
12-13-2013, 04:32 PM
I call false flag. This thing stinks to high heaven.

The location and timing is what stinks on this one. Way to wrap together school shootings old and new in one little package.

juleswin
12-13-2013, 04:37 PM
The location and timing is what stinks on this one. Way to wrap together school shootings old and new in one little package.

Don't forget the clobbering all the pro gun control politicians are getting from their constituents in Colorado. Whether it is an inside job or not, this will go a long way in stopping the clobbering.

devil21
12-13-2013, 04:45 PM
Don't forget the clobbering all the pro gun control politicians are getting from their constituents in Colorado. Whether it is an inside job or not, this will go a long way in stopping the clobbering.

True. I forgot about the Aurora shooting there too. So this one incident gives the opportunity for a media narrative that ties Newtown (anniversary), Columbine (location), Aurora (location), and gun control politicians (location) together nicely.

Uriel999
12-13-2013, 05:10 PM
True. I forgot about the Aurora shooting there too. So this one incident gives the opportunity for a media narrative that ties Newtown (anniversary), Columbine (location), Aurora (location), and gun control politicians (location) together nicely.

Guys I hate to say it but I am starting to believe we need to ban Colorado. It's for the children.

Noob
12-13-2013, 05:14 PM
I call false flag. This thing stinks to high heaven.

Of course

"Lone Wolf" Active Shooter Response/ODEC Combo | Littleton, CO

TAC*ONE Consulting
Event Dates: 14-December-2013 to 15-December-2013
Location: Littleton, Colorado

http://www.policeone.com/training/events/6555869-Lone-Wolf-Active-Shooter-Response-ODEC-Combo-Littleton-CO/

Dianne
12-13-2013, 05:23 PM
This one was sure to come.. Crisisactors.org at it again. How many elected officials have recently been impeached in Colorado for supporting stronger gun laws? At least two that I know of.

So let me get this story straight, that doesn't pass the stink test. A student walks into his school carrying a shotgun, looking for a specific teacher. No one gets suspicious or alerts the police or school security, rather they just alert the teacher and the teacher has time to leave the building to safety. So the kid decides to shoot someone else, then himself. Were there no adults there ? No one with a cell phone to alert 911? Apparently the kid was there for a while, if the teacher had time to be alerted and leave the building to safety.

devil21
12-13-2013, 05:52 PM
Damn. They marched all the kids out of the school with their hands in the air, frisked them and confiscated their cell phones. Explains why there's been no reports of Twitter and FB posts from students. My gut feeling is this was a drill that was scheduled for today for the propaganda value.

DamianTV
12-13-2013, 06:34 PM
I'm betting he was on SSRIs.

Any takers?

I'll wager, oh wait, I dont have anything to wager, but yeah, probably on Meds! Hey look! Your kid behaves Normally! He needs to be Forcibly Medicated or the parents will be arrested for Child Abuse!

Desires to Homeschool are a symptom of Incompetent Parents!? But Teen Pregnancy is A-Okay!

Desires to not forcibly Medicate, Innoculate, Indoctrinate and Miseducate are apparently also symptoms of a Mental Illness!

Why is it that the motive for establishing an opinion one way or the other seems to either be financial or a direct result of the effects of Indoctrination? Why are children being removed from their mothers Uteruses by CPS before they are even born? Why do we have more school shootings than any other country on the planet? Why do we have the Most Medicated Children compared to every other country on the planet? Why do schools resemble Prisons instead of places that inspire them to Think and Learn? Why do children graduate without knowing the basics of how to do anything relevant to the real world? Why do history books now portray the people who established this country as Terrorists? Why do videos arise where Santa Claus explains Christmas has to be cancelled due to Global Warming melting / melted the North Pole? Why are Children being encouraged to "turn their parents in" if their parents mention the Constitution? Why do the Parents not revolt? Why do our problems continue to only get worse? Why do Public Schools teach that everything in the Bill of Rights is a PERMISSION to be given by Govt? Why do schools say they teach math and science, but we are Dead Last in Education? Why do schools place a higher degree of importance Obedience over Understanding? Why are children as young as THREE years old being detained by the TSA? Why are children in Schools being Tazed, Assaulted, Shot, Medicated, and Arrested and such actions are being called Education?

What if the problem is not with the Child, but the System of Education itself?

devil21
12-13-2013, 06:35 PM
BUSTED!

http://www.policeone.com/training/events/6555869-Lone-Wolf-Active-Shooter-Response-ODEC-Combo-Littleton-CO/

The link for more info on this drill at TACONE's website has been scrubbed. Busted!!

eta- all references to the drill have been scrubbed from the websites!

acptulsa
12-13-2013, 08:00 PM
PTSD.

It's for the children.

Pericles
12-13-2013, 09:31 PM
And this in a state competing for the title of most restrictions on firearms ownership. EPIC FAIL

FrankRep
12-14-2013, 12:50 PM
Karl Halverson Pierson, 18, injured two students at Arapahoe High School, turned gun on self (http://www.news.com.au/world/two-students-injured-in-arapahoe-high-school-shooting/story-fndir2ev-1226783250108)


News.com.au
December 14, 2013



Thomas Conrad, who had an economics class with the gunman, described him as a very opinionated Socialist.

"He was exuberant I guess," Conrad told The Denver Post.

Quark
12-14-2013, 02:15 PM
http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/colorado-shooter-keynesian-socialist/#axzz2nNA9pEmw


In one Facebook post, Pierson attacks the philosophies of economist Adam Smith, who through his invisible-hand theory pushed the notion that the free market was self-regulating. In another post, he describes himself as “Keynesian.”

“I was wondering to all the neoclassicals and neoliberals, why isn’t the market correcting itself?” he wrote. “If the invisible hand is so strong, shouldn’t it be able to overpower regulations?”

Strangely enough, Pierson was also apparently an advocate for gun control. ”He had very strong beliefs about gun laws and stuff,” said junior Abbey Skoda, who was in a class with Pierson during her freshman year. “I also heard he was bullied a lot.”



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I wonder if it was his Economics teacher he was going after.

Anti Federalist
12-14-2013, 03:35 PM
Colorado Arapahoe High School shooter expressed left-wing views, attended bible studies

Reporter: Jack Minor December 14, 2013 in Politics

http://usfinancepost.com/colorado-arapahoe-high-school-shooter-expressed-left-wing-views-attended-bible-studies-10889.html

Colorado Arapahoe High School shooter expressed left-wing viewsWhile police continue their investigation into the shooting at a Denver area high school, what information has come out seems to indicate the shooter, like those in other shootings, may have had left-leaning beliefs.

The shooting occurred Friday afternoon at Arapahoe High School in Centennial, Colorado. The town, which was named after the fictional town in James Michener’s epic novel by the same name, is a suburb of Denver and just a short distance from where another tragic school shooting took place several years ago at Columbine High School.

The shooter, Karl Pierson, was a senior at the school and according to accounts he approached the front of the school with a shotgun, making no attempt to hide it. Once inside he asked for a specific teacher.

During the shooting, a 15 year old girl was shot and wounded and currently in critical condition at an area hospital. Two other students were treated and released for non-gunshot related injuries.

By the time police arrived on the scene Pierson was dead, apparently the victim of a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

Immediately following the shooting, gun control activists immediately jumped on the bandwagon to call for more attempts at restricting Second Amendment rights. CNN’s Piers Morgan, who has been avid in his calls for restricting the rights of law-abiding gun owners blasted gun rights supporters and all but blaming them for the shooting.

“Why is anyone surprised by more school shootings in America? Absolutely nothing has been done to prevent them since Sandy Hook.”

Morgan also criticized a grass roots movement that in the face of massive pressure from outside interests such as Michael Bloomberg and other gun control groups, recalled two sitting Democratic state senators and forced a third one to resign.

“Colorado is, of course, where they’ve spent the last few months throwing out politicians who had the audacity to advocate gun control,” Morgan said.

The problem Morgan and other gun control advocates have is that just as in the Washington Naval Yard shooting, both individuals used a shotgun, which is considered the weapon of choice for gun control groups who insist they do not want to ban these types of weapons.

The shotgun is the preferred weapon of choice for Vice President Joe Biden who has recommended the weapon for home defense. However, his advice for using it runs contrary to the rules of gun safety. Speaking at a town hall meeting he advised women to simply point it and shoot through a closed door if they felt threatened.

“Well, you know, my shotgun will do better for you than your AR-15, because you want to keep someone away from your house, just fire the shotgun through the door,” Biden said.

While information is still coming out in the confusion following the aftermath of the incident, what little information is available suggest that just as in other recent mass shootings, gun control advocates may end once again be faced with a shooter who does not fit their template of gun owners being fanatic right wing nut jobs ready to go off on a shooting spree on a moment’s notice.

On Pierson’s Facebook page, which has since been scrubbed, it appeared that his political leanings were decidedly leftward. In a post he followed the liberal mantra that all Republicans want to kill the elderly and poison everybody’s food and water.

“You Republicans are so cute,” he said while posting an image that said “The Republican Party: health Care: Let em’ Die, Climate Change: Let em’ Die, Gun Violence: Let em’ Die, Women’s Rights: Let em’ Die, More War: Let em’ Die. Is this really the side you want to be on?”

In another post he took aim at free market economics and described himself as a Keynesian. Supporters of Keynesian economics believe that government spending is good for the economy and operates on the assumption there are zero costs when the government diverts money from the private sector.

Keynesian economics is the basis for the Obama stimulus plan and the administration’s overall approach to the economy.

However, in some respects Pierson also remains somewhat of an enigma. Students who knew him said he was a gifted debater and may have been bullied. The Denver Post reported that Carl Schmidt and Brendon Mendelson, both seniors at the school described Pierson’s political views were “outside the mainstream.” They also said he was very popular with the people he knew at the school.

Pierson’s family also attended Bible study meetings and by all accounts the family was just like any other in the neighborhood.

While ultimately the person responsible is the shooter himself, Pierson’s views seem to be part of a pattern involving recent mass shooting incidents.

Aaron Alexis, the shooter at the Washington Naval Yard in September was a fan of President Obama and expressed anti-American sentiments. Michael Ritrovato, a close friend of Alexis said on CNN that “He was more of a liberal type. He wasn’t happy with the former administration. He was more happy with this administration, as far as presidential administrations.”

Following the shooting of Rep. Gabby Giffords in Arizona, the media attempted to claim the shooter was a conservative who was influenced by Sarah Palin and individuals who questioned the President Obama’s eligibility.

NPR said in an article that Arizona had been “roiled by incendiary debate over illegal immigrants and is also become ground zero for those questioning Obama’s birthplace.” The article also quoted University of Arizona law professor, Andy Silverman, saying, “we become the incubator for a lot of immigrant related matters and now for the birthers too.”

However, at the time Giffords was described as a moderate, blue dog Democrat and a gun rights activist. She was one of a handful of Democrats to vote against Nancy Pelosi as Speaker. Following Giffords vote against Pelosi, The Daily Kos featured an article by a Tucson writer titled “My CongressWOMAN voted against Nancy Pelosi and is now dead to me.”

Gifford’s shooter, Jared Lee Loughner, was later revealed to be a left-wing zealot who hated George W. Bush. According to his YouTube page his favorite writings included Mein Kampf and the Communist manifesto. He also posted a video advocating the burning of the American flag.

Catie Parker, who claimed will gone to school with Loughner wrote “as I knew him he was left-wing, quite liberal and oddly obsessed with 2012 prophecy.”

Following the Aurora Theater shooting ABC News quickly claimed the shooter was a Republican member of the tea party.

Appearing on Good Morning America, ABC News’s Brian Ross said, “There is a Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado, page on the Colorado Tea Party site as well, talking about him joining the Tea Party last year. Now we don’t know if this is the same Jim Holmes — but this is Jim Holmes of Aurora, Colorado.”

However it was later revealed that the 24 year old suspect looks nothing like the 52 year old Holmes.

New York City Mayor, Michael Bloomberg, who is a fierce advocate for gun control was asked about the possibility of Times Square bomber Faisal Shahzad being a homegrown terrorist. Bloomberg said the bomber was possibly a man with a “political agenda that doesn’t like health care or something.”

Noob
12-15-2013, 09:10 AM
No Gun Control, No Deals

http://nagr.org/house-no-gun-ban.aspx?pid=NAGRhome

Warlord
12-15-2013, 09:32 AM
He was a socialist??

FrankRep
12-15-2013, 10:14 AM
He was a socialist??

The shooter was a socialist who supported Gun Control according to reports.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?435688-Denver-Post-Edits-quot-Socialist-quot-Out-of-Description-of-Arapahoe-School-Shooter

gwax23
12-15-2013, 11:16 AM
The irony!! So much for those conspiracies of government involvement. This guy was one of their wacky own. Like that crazy cop in LA a few months back.

pcosmar
12-15-2013, 04:08 PM
BUSTED!

http://www.policeone.com/training/events/6555869-Lone-Wolf-Active-Shooter-Response-ODEC-Combo-Littleton-CO/

The link for more info on this drill at TACONE's website has been scrubbed. Busted!!


eta- all references to the drill have been scrubbed from the websites!

They missed this..
http://www.taconeconsulting.com/channel-2-video-active-shooter-training/

It was already to be a busy weekend for TAC*ONE Consulting with trainings in Limon and Littleton for Law Enforcement and a civilian CCW class in Loveland at the Tanner Gun Show. The shooting that occurred yesterday at Arapahoe High School in Centennial CO is exactly what we train our law enforcement clients for.

FrankRep
12-15-2013, 04:40 PM
BUSTED!

http://www.policeone.com/training/events/6555869-Lone-Wolf-Active-Shooter-Response-ODEC-Combo-Littleton-CO/

The link for more info on this drill at TACONE's website has been scrubbed. Busted!!

eta- all references to the drill have been scrubbed from the websites!


Google Cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ac0pPXqjZAoJ:www.policeone.com/training/events/6555869-Lone-Wolf-Active-Shooter-Response-ODEC-Combo-Littleton-CO/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



"Lone Wolf" Active Shooter Response/ODEC Combo | Littleton, CO
TAC*ONE Consulting

Event Dates: 14-December-2013 to 15-December-2013
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Website: http://www.taconeconsulting.com/ai1ec_event/lone-wolf-active-shooter-response-officer-down-emergency-care-combo-littleton-co/?instance_id=280
Event Type: Training Course/Seminar

devil21
12-15-2013, 05:30 PM
They missed this..
http://www.taconeconsulting.com/channel-2-video-active-shooter-training/

They added that sometime after the event, obviously, and removed other references. Definitely some revisions to that website were made after the event/drill went down. There's also a news video floating around showing this company doing "active shooter training" INSIDE A SCHOOL. I noticed they also remove all past training drills from their google calendar. Very suspicious.

heavenlyboy34
12-15-2013, 05:37 PM
The location and timing is what stinks on this one. Way to wrap together school shootings old and new in one little package.
Would've been more impressive to make this happen on the anniversary of the Columbine Massacre. Maybe Michael Moore would make a new "documentary".

Romulus
12-16-2013, 12:49 PM
Google Cache:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Ac0pPXqjZAoJ:www.policeone.com/training/events/6555869-Lone-Wolf-Active-Shooter-Response-ODEC-Combo-Littleton-CO/+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us



"Lone Wolf" Active Shooter Response/ODEC Combo | Littleton, CO
TAC*ONE Consulting

Event Dates: 14-December-2013 to 15-December-2013
Location: Littleton, Colorado
Website: http://www.taconeconsulting.com/ai1ec_event/lone-wolf-active-shooter-response-officer-down-emergency-care-combo-littleton-co/?instance_id=280
Event Type: Training Course/Seminar

I would say I'm shocked...but no, I'm not anymore. There's always a drill to cover.

How do they get the kid to pull the trigger, or is he just the patsy and someone else is pulling the trigger?

pcosmar
12-16-2013, 12:56 PM
How do they get the kid to pull the trigger, or is he just the patsy and someone else is pulling the trigger?

Hypnotic drugs,,
A suggestion and a trigger.

Or very possibly a second shooter.. and a drugged patsy.

several of these cases have a second or third person who is never caught.

devil21
12-16-2013, 07:07 PM
The head of Tacone has a history of finding himself in the middle of active shooter situations (claims 2 on his bios....Deer Creek and Platt Canyon) and close by to others (Aurora, Arapahoe). He sure has a knack for being in the "right place at the right time" and capitalizing monetarily from it. His brother (who he appears to live with) is a police officer in that area too.