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AmericasLastHope
12-10-2013, 04:55 PM
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By M. Alex Johnson, Staff Writer, NBC News

A private ambulance service that transported more than a half-million patients a year in six states abruptly shut down without explanation, leaving dozens of cities and towns scrambling for medical transportation options this week without a word of warning.

First Med EMS, based in Wilmington, N.C., served hospitals and other medical facilities in more than 70 municipalities in Kentucky, North Carolina, Ohio, South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia. It operated under the names TransMed, Life Ambulance and MedCorp, boasting in publicity materials: "We take pride in our performance and the safety of our patients. We refuse to compromise on this."

First Med's website was inaccessible Tuesday, and calls to corporate offices either reached disconnected lines or weren't answered. Company workers said in Facebook posts and tweets that they were told the corporation had declared bankruptcy, but no bankruptcy documents were yet on file in U.S. Bankruptcy Court for the Eastern District of North Carolina.

First Med was the largest EMS service in Ohio, where at least 1,500 paramedics and other medical workers were left jobless in Cleveland, Columbus, Dayton, Toledo, Cincinnati, Youngstown and numerous smaller towns.

First Med also provided services in Richmond, Norfolk and Newport News in Virginia, as well as Wilmington, N.C.

Much of First Med's business was "non-emergent" transportation — such as taking dialysis patients to their weekly treatments and shuttling nursing home patients to doctors' appointments — and officials in some cities said there should be little impact on patient treatment.

"The unfortunate thing was lack of notice," Larry Stephens, ambulance service director for Camden Clark Medical Center in Parkersburg, W.Va., told NBC station WTAP. "They closed up shop on Friday, and people were scrambling to get to their appointments all weekend, plus early this week."

Many of the company's approximately 2,300 employees learned about the shutdown from colleagues. When they tried to show up for work Saturday, they found locked doors.

"I found out on Facebook and from a co-worker that I no longer had a job," Stacey Carpenter, a First Med dispatcher in Wilmington, told NBC station WECT. "I am absolutely devastated. I don't know what I am going to do."

Dispatch services in several cities reported that First Med called them Friday night and Saturday to stop all requests for emergency runs. Workers who were in the middle of their shifts were told to turn around and go home.

"We didn't know what to do," Derek Griffin, an emergency medical technician in Hopewell, Va., told NBC station WWBT of Richmond.

"They told us to turn our truck in, to turn our equipment in. That was it," he said. "It was done so shadily and so behind closed doors."

Medical facilities said the shutdown took them by surprise, too, and at least one county — Bertie County, N.C. — declared a state of emergency at noon Monday. The county board of commissioners said in a statement that it would pursue legal claims against First Med.

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Seraphim
12-10-2013, 04:57 PM
Wonder if it has to do with Obamacare.

angelatc
12-10-2013, 05:00 PM
The county board of commissioners said in a statement that it would pursue legal claims against First Med.

Dumb assery.


But this will be used as an argument against privatization of services.

ClydeCoulter
12-10-2013, 05:32 PM
"We'll tell you how to do your business, how much you must pay your employees and what benefits you must provide, how much you have to pay stay in business, and if you don't like it and close shop, we'll sue you!"

acptulsa
12-10-2013, 05:51 PM
"We'll tell you how to do your business, how much you must pay your employees and what benefits you must provide, how much you have to pay stay in business, and if you don't like it and close shop, we'll sue you!"

And we'll pass a law that says you must keep bleeding even after we've bled you dry, because we're in charge and we say you can't be bled dry. Just because we want more blood.

Keith and stuff
12-10-2013, 06:10 PM
That's bad news for not only these 2,100 people and the people the transported, but also EMT and Drivers looking for work in those states (especially OH, it looks like). That's not a nice holiday present. It would be nice if there was a care package for these folks. They all seem to qualify for unemployment...

idiom
12-10-2013, 07:17 PM
Well, thats what going Galt looks like.

Henry Rogue
12-10-2013, 07:53 PM
I wonder what the barriers to entry are for some young enterprising person who has the money to buy an old ambulance on Craig's list and would like to hire a few laid off EMTs.

LibForestPaul
12-10-2013, 08:27 PM
:p
I wonder what the barriers to entry are for some young enterprising person who has the money to buy an old ambulance on Craig's list and would like to hire a few laid off EMTs.:)
LOL, please stop, you is makinz me cries.

mad cow
12-10-2013, 08:31 PM
I wonder what the barriers to entry are for some young enterprising person who has the money to buy an old ambulance on Craig's list and would like to hire a few laid off EMTs.


Much of First Med's business was "non-emergent" transportation — such as taking dialysis patients to their weekly treatments and shuttling nursing home patients to doctors' appointments — and officials in some cities said there should be little impact on patient treatment.


In a free world,you could buy an old Ford Econoline van and hire a teenager to capture a lot of this business.
But we don't live in a free world and that is probably why this company went bankrupt in the first place.

Nirvikalpa
12-11-2013, 09:34 AM
In a free world,you could buy an old Ford Econoline van and hire a teenager to capture a lot of this business.
But we don't live in a free world and that is probably why this company went bankrupt in the first place.

I'm curious as to why you quoted those two statements, specifically the second one.

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Many of the company's approximately 2,300 employees learned about the shutdown from colleagues. When they tried to show up for work Saturday, they found locked doors.

Don't care if your a public or private business, that is just plain bad business practice.

Bern
12-11-2013, 09:46 AM
... that is just plain bad business practice.

Yeah, the company that is closing it's doors is worried about it's reputation.

It's standard practice to do things like this to avoid confrontations (ie. workplace violence). It's a safety issue.

ClydeCoulter
12-11-2013, 10:00 AM
Well, thats what going Galt looks like.

That's what I told my wife, yesterday :D

Nirvikalpa
12-11-2013, 10:08 AM
Yeah, the company that is closing it's doors is worried about it's reputation.

It's standard practice to do things like this to avoid confrontations (ie. workplace violence). It's a safety issue.

Amazingly, when my EMS company shut down (private), we had advance notice of it - enough where we could apply for jobs elsewhere and not be screwed over in the recertification process for our EMT cert (my company was one of the few in my County who would hold Refresher EMT classes - them closing and therefor canceling their classes would have left me without a valid EMT license).

This is not standard practice for EMS companies, because this goes beyond a company closing and people losing their job... it extends to perhaps really screwing their employees who were due on their CPR certification (they did provide CPR courses, from the website I found), and perhaps even worse - EMD (dispatch) certification, and EMT certification, which can expire every 3-5 years and varies with the state. Believe what you wish, but it doesn't exactly make private companies a shining star in people's eyes.

Your workplace violence and "safety issue" excuse is plain bullshit.

Root
12-11-2013, 10:14 AM
I wonder what the barriers to entry are for some young enterprising person who has the money to buy an old ambulance on Craig's list and would like to hire a few laid off EMTs.
State certifications.

Nirvikalpa
12-11-2013, 10:27 AM
State certifications.

As well as retesting all equipment, throwing out equipment that can't be transferred over, reordering equipment that is in line with your state's protocols, providing the state with copies of valid CPR, AED, and EMT/EMD certifications for each employee, and so on and so forth.

thoughtomator
12-11-2013, 10:31 AM
smells like an embezzlement situation - speculation: they thought they had money to operate the business plan and when they looked, it was gone

osan
12-11-2013, 10:38 AM
I wonder what the barriers to entry are for some young enterprising person who has the money to buy an old ambulance on Craig's list and would like to hire a few laid off EMTs.

A big one will be the liability insurance. I would bet it is a real ball-buster like that for malpractice.

I once saw my gf's brother's tax return. He is an orthopedic surgeon in NJ. That year he grossed $650K and nearly $200K went to malpractice insurance. It was a pretty sickening thing to learn.

Root
12-11-2013, 12:11 PM
As well as retesting all equipment, throwing out equipment that can't be transferred over, reordering equipment that is in line with your state's protocols, providing the state with copies of valid CPR, AED, and EMT/EMD certifications for each employee, and so on and so forth.
I break these down into two catagories.
1. Capital - Easy for an entrepreneur to obtain.
2. The State - protocols, regulations, certifications, licenses, permits and fees that make it difficult for a new operator to fill the demand.

tangent4ronpaul
12-11-2013, 01:38 PM
Wonder if it has to do with Obamacare.

I'm betting it does. Actually I'm really hoping it does!

-t

tangent4ronpaul
12-11-2013, 02:06 PM
This is probably related:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?435409-ObamaCare-s-Threat-to-Firemen&p=5338776#post5338776

-t

mad cow
12-11-2013, 03:28 PM
I'm curious as to why you quoted those two statements, specifically the second one.

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Don't care if your a public or private business, that is just plain bad business practice.

I quoted the first one because I hit the reply with quote button to Henry Rogue and wanted to give a possible alternative answer to his question.

The second quote is from the OP,and dealt with non-emergent transportation being much of this company's business.
Shuttling nursing home patients around to Doctors' appointments should not require an ambulance or licensed EMT's.