30 Little Known Facts about America

[donnay]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=klwWcp9eiPw

[ClydeCoulter]

Have you researched any of that, @donnay?

[ZENemy]

1. The IRS is not a U.S. Government Agency. It is an Agency of the IMF. (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I., Public Law 94-564, Senate Report 94-1148 pg. 5967, Reorganization Plan No. 26, Public Law 102-391.)


The IRS was created in 1913, the IMF was created in 1945.

So, that is either nonsense OR did the IMF take over the IRS or something along that line? I cannot find anything via search.

[eduardo89]

The IRS was created in 1913, the IMF was created in 1945.

So, that is either nonsense OR did the IMF take over the IRS or something along that line? I cannot find anything via search.

The IRS is an agency within the Treasury Department and was actually created in 1862. The current name was given in 1918.

[angelatc]

Saw it on Youtube, so it's totally true.

[jllundqu]

Sounds legit.

[Acala]

Some facts are "little known" because they are not true.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

Saw it on Youtube, so it's totally true.

The 9/11 Truther Movement credo.

[dannno]

The 9/11 Truther Movement credo.

At least I don't post the bologna from the debunking sites and pretend like that is true.

[donnay]

Have you researched any of that, @donnay?

Just a little. I have been hunting around for my Black's Law Dictionary to look this case up.

Also someone else did some leg work: http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/10.13/collection.html


The Internal Revenue Service is considered to be a Bureau of the Department of the Treasury; however, like the Federal Reserve, it is not part of the Federal Government (Diversified Metal Products v. IRS et al. CV-93-405E-EJE U.S.D.C.D.I.; Public Law 94-564; Senate Report 94-1148, pg. 5967; Reorganization Plan No. 26; Public Law 102-391), and in fact was incorporated in Delaware in 1933.

It is pointed out that all official Federal Government mail is sent postage-free because of the franking privilege, however, the IRS has to pay their own postage, which indicates that they are not a government entity. [The US Govt is but the enforcement arm for the IRS…Ed]

They are in fact a collection agency for the Federal Reserve, because they do not collect any taxes for the U.S. Treasury. All funds collected are turned over to the Federal Reserve. If you have ever sent a check to the IRS, you will find that it was endorsed over to the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve, in turn, deposits the money with the International Monetary Fund, an agency of the United Nations (Black's Law Dictionary, 6th edition, pg. 816), where it is filtered down to the International Development Association (see Treasury Delegation Order No. 91), which is part of the "International Bank for Reconstruction and Development", commonly known as the World Bank. Therefore, it is now clear that the American people are unknowingly contributing to the coming World Government.

Other referenced searches:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=IRS+is+a+Fraud

I was hoping some serious discussion and some shared research would be good. However, as usual, I see the trolls scurried in to stymie it.

[Carson]

Saw it on Youtube, so it's totally true.

The 9/11 Truther Movement credo.

I thought we were suppose to go by the number of email FW:'s.

[LibForestPaul]

Just a little. I have been hunting around for my Black's Law Dictionary to look this case up.

Also someone else did some leg work: http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/10.13/collection.html



Other referenced searches:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=IRS+is+a+Fraud

I was hoping some serious discussion and some shared research would be good. However, as usual, I see the trolls scurried in to stymie it.

NP. Cancelled chk for IRS says on back, Credit to the Treasury Department of The United states

[donnay]

NP. Cancelled chk for IRS says on back, Credit to the Treasury Department of The United states

Thanks. Haven't had any cancelled checks sent to the IRS so I didn't know.

[angelatc]

It is pointed out that all official Federal Government mail is sent postage-free because of the franking privilege, however, the IRS has to pay their own postage, which indicates that they are not a government entity

Uh, actually, the franking privilege does not pertain to the entire federal government, it applies only to members of Congress.

[ClydeCoulter]

Just a little. I have been hunting around for my Black's Law Dictionary to look this case up.

Also someone else did some leg work: http://www.silverbearcafe.com/private/10.13/collection.html



Other referenced searches:
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=IRS+is+a+Fraud

I was hoping some serious discussion and some shared research would be good. However, as usual, I see the trolls scurried in to stymie it.

I guess we should only post links and youtubes of accepted sources according to some RPF standard supported by a handful of members?

But it would be nice to either bunk or debunk some things.

You most definitely believed everything in that video or you wouldn't have posted it, right? (j/k) :)

There certainly may have been a good reason that the original 16th amendment was attempted just before the civil war, and there were those that thwarted it.

[angelatc]

I guess we should only post links and youtubes of accepted sources according to some RPF standard supported by a handful of members?

But it would be nice to either bunk or debunk some things. .

We're talking to a woman who thinks that vaccines are a plot by the Rockefeller family to kill us all. We can't debunk that, then we don't stand a chance at convincing her that the Pope can't abolish US Law.

[CPUd]

It is the basic freeman-tax protester material.

The source is from this site:

http://www.abodia.com/1/30-facts.htm

I think I'll just let that speak for itself.

[ClydeCoulter]

We're talking to a woman who thinks that vaccines are a plot by the Rockefeller family to kill us all. We can't debunk that, we stand a chance at convincing her that the Pope can't abois US Law.

Control of the population has more variations than just death. Sterilization is a long term form of population control, and we know that has been discussed openly as a method using vaccines. We know that schools dumb down the children and indoctrinate.

Wild accusations posted in some context may be mostly wild speculation, but, from time to time there may be a shred of truth or a hint of direction, here and there. Many people are looking for an answer to the craziness we call the world. When looking, there is a greater chance that we are looking in the wrong place, because it exists where it exists. But we don't stop looking just because it is not under the sofa cushion.

[ClydeCoulter]

Who built this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Georgia_guidestones.jpg

A bunch of internet conspiracy theorists to fool everyone, put that much of their own money/labor into it?

[Danke]

No doubt the governments by their actions have become illegitimate.

But for discussion about the IRS and Treasury connection, see: http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/Misunderstandings/irs_is_an_agency.htm

And more here, the truth shall set you free.

http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/faq.htm

[mczerone]

Just because something fits into your narrative doesn't make it true. Nor does it reduce the need to actually verify references.

You think you can look up Case Law in the Black's Law Dictionary? The reference on the page to Black's was for the definition of the IMF.

This whole thing is full of holes, and it's not even worth debunking. I pity you if you believe any of it.

(And really, what does it matter? How does it change your life if the pirate ransacking your ship really works for Gang A, or just pretends to work for Gang A, but really sends all your booty to Gang B?)

[ZENemy]

The IRS is an agency within the Treasury Department and was actually created in 1862. The current name was given in 1918.


My mistake, I was thinking the FED. I did not know about the 1918 name change, thanks for the info! :)

[donnay]

29) Everything in the “United States” is up For Sale: bridges, roads, water, schools, hospitals, prisons, airports, etc, etc…
Did anybody take time to check who bought Klamath Lake??
(Executive Order 12803)

Executive Order 12803 - Infrastructure Privatization
http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/print.php?pid=23625

Also this: http://realitybloger.wordpress.com/2010/05/09/who-owns-america/

[enhanced_deficit]

Saw it on Youtube, so it's totally true.

Youtube is loaded with mixed stuff, with huge amount of flaky info. But overall, it is still less deceptive and more truthful than US MSM TV news.

[ZENemy]

Who built this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Georgia_guidestones.jpg

A bunch of internet conspiracy theorists to fool everyone, put that much of their own money/labor into it?

Those are scary.

[oyarde]

My mistake, I was thinking the FED. I did not know about the 1918 name change, thanks for the info! :)

I have a cancelled check from 1883 you may be interested in . I could probably trade it for something :)

[oyarde]

No doubt the governments by their actions have become illegitimate.

But for discussion about the IRS and Treasury connection, see: http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/Misunderstandings/irs_is_an_agency.htm

And more here, the truth shall set you free.

http://www.losthorizons.com/tax/faq.htm

Oh , I have no doubt that any claim they were to ever make against me is illegitimate , lol

[oyarde]

Who built this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Georgia_guidestones.jpg

A bunch of internet conspiracy theorists to fool everyone, put that much of their own money/labor into it?

If someone can help me with the Swahili , maybe I can make some sense of this . Just kidding .

[Natural Citizen]

Who built this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Georgia_guidestones.jpg

A bunch of internet conspiracy theorists to fool everyone, put that much of their own money/labor into it?

I don't know but I don't see a secular snowman next to it. WTF!? :eek:

[DamianTV]

Who built this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Georgia_guidestones.jpg

A bunch of internet conspiracy theorists to fool everyone, put that much of their own money/labor into it?

I've seen a bit of info on the Georgia Guidestones (I think thats the right name). The guys that built it are on public record and said they never met the people that paid to have them built. Builder doesnt seem to be significant in this case as I think it was just as local construction company, and they have no personal or vested interest in the words on those horrid monoliths of oppression.

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In regards to OP video, some if it very well could be true, but it may not be relevant. Same way as "Judges" dont even seem to understand Capitis Diminuto Maxima. (the lessening of a persons status my making all the letters in their names in caps). But if that is all that matters, is just words on paper, then I could easily invalidate the Constitution and all debt to everyone world wide by simply writing it down on a napkin. There are tons of laws on the books that have not been repealed that simply are no longer relevant. Like eating an ice cream cone while riding a donkey backwards on a sunday next to a church.

Point being just because they make claim to own us all does not mean that we are owned. Free men understand that in order to truly be free, they can not acknowledge any claims of a person to own another person. We can overcome many of those claims of ownership of free men by doing the same with the laws which supposedly enforce them. Make them irrelevant by refusal to acknowledge them. IE JURY NULLIFICATION.

[kathy88]

I have to give you credit Donnay. You continue to post interesting finds despite the responses. Thank you.

[Neil Desmond]

That reminds me, one of the things I find odd is some of the official titles that Juan Carlos I of Spain holds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_I

Specifically, he holds the title of King of the Two Sicilies (Naples and Sicily), and King of Jerusalem. The reason I find them odd is because I thought Naples and Sicily are part of Italy, and Jerusalem is an international city.

I guess I'll create a separate thread for this.

[Acala]

Who built this?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Georgia_guidestones.jpg

A bunch of internet conspiracy theorists to fool everyone, put that much of their own money/labor into it?

I am sure it was the design of some super-secret group of Illuminati who control the whole world from their oppulent, hidden lair but decided just this once to publish their entire secret agenda on a rock in Georgia because, what the hell, trying to rule the world is no fun unless people know about it!

[eduardo89]

That reminds me, one of the things I find odd is some of the official titles that Juan Carlos I of Spain holds: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Carlos_I

Specifically, he holds the title of King of the Two Sicilies (Naples and Sicily), and King of Jerusalem. The reason I find them odd is because I thought Naples and Sicily are part of Italy, and Jerusalem is an international city.

I guess I'll create a separate thread for this.

Those are historic titles. The Kings of Spain used to also concurrently be Kings of Naples and Sicily until there were integrated into a united Italy in the 1860/70s, he is simply pretender to the throne (look up that term). King of Jerusalem was one of the titles the Kings of Naples and Sicily pretended to, and therefore he has claim to it as well, even though it was abolished hundreds of years ago.

[donnay]

I am sure it was the design of some super-secret group of Illuminati who control the whole world from their oppulent, hidden lair but decided just this once to publish their entire secret agenda on a rock in Georgia because, what the hell, trying to rule the world is no fun unless people know about it!

They hide things in plain sight all the time. Just because you don't believe it is some secret cabal doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

[Ender]

They hide things in plain sight all the time. Just because you don't believe it is some secret cabal doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

The ideal is to learn to question everything- and that means EVERYTHING. Only by questioning do we find different aspects of the "truth" that we didn't know existed. Much of what we believe is true is at best conniving PR and at worst, conspiracy.

I also find it ironic that many who condemn "conspiracy theories" or things that are not mainstream beliefs and make fun of people who find interesting concepts on the internet- are the first to believe any political agenda on the net that fits their paradigm.

[Acala]

They hide things in plain sight all the time. Just because you don't believe it is some secret cabal doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I think there is at least a loose affiliations of very powerful people who try to manipulate global political and economic events to their benefit and at the cost of the freedom and wealth of the people at large. What I don't believe is that they bother to carve their credo in some half-assed monument in Asshat, Georgia. There is no reason for it.

[donnay]

I think there is at least a loose affiliations of very powerful people who try to manipulate global political and economic events to their benefit and at the cost of the freedom and wealth of the people at large. What I don't believe is that they bother to carve their credo in some half-assed monument in Asshat, Georgia. There is no reason for it.

People like Ted Turner who proudly pronounces we need depopulation and is arrogant about it, comes to mine. However, he forgets to mention he has 5 children.

The people behind the scenes have wealth, arrogance and power. One could only hope their arrogance will be their undoing.

[ThePenguinLibertarian]

At least I don't post the bologna from the debunking sites and pretend like that is true.
They are true, their just not true to you because its mainstream science. From Albert Lasker award winners.

[DGambler]

I think there is at least a loose affiliations of very powerful people who try to manipulate global political and economic events to their benefit and at the cost of the freedom and wealth of the people at large. What I don't believe is that they bother to carve their credo in some half-assed monument in Asshat, Georgia. There is no reason for it.

That wasn't a cheap monument, you think one of us asshats down here in GA did it as a fucking prank?

[gwax23]

Basically nothing in the video is true.

[eduardo89]

Basically nothing in the video is true.

You're just an evil NWO Zionist!!! Obviously you'd say that video is lies :rolleyes:

[angelatc]

Basically nothing in the video is true.

Which is why it's in General Politics, I guess.

[FrankRep]

Basically nothing in the video is true.

True. The Video doesn't understand the Bretton Woods Agreement and falsifies the facts.

[gwax23]

I also forgot to mention the music and presentation was horrible and boring.

[fr33]

I have to give you credit Donnay. You continue to post interesting finds despite the responses. Thank you.

If by interesting, you mean videos that are based on no facts whatsoever....

Hell I can do that...

There are massive underground bases filled with alien greys:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7vLXf5bNo

In those bases they are conducting genetic hybrid experiments:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g44UuRp7D-g

I can post many more mind blowing youtube videos.

Afterall:

Saw it on Youtube, so it's totally true.

[Neil Desmond]

If by interesting, you mean videos that are based on no facts whatsoever....

Hell I can do that...

There are massive underground bases filled with alien greys:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf7vLXf5bNo

In those bases they are conducting genetic hybrid experiments:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g44UuRp7D-g

I can post many more mind blowing youtube videos.

Afterall:
There's so much on the toobz that's amusing we don't need movie theaters anymore. :D

EDIT: especially at least the first 10 12 1/2 minutes of this too:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JioleLHOeqg

[DamianTV]

Fact 31 (http://sjlendman.blogspot.com/2013/12/obama-sentences-lynne-stewart-to-death.html): America spends more on prisons than education. In the last two decades, prison spending increased around 570%. Education funding grew only one-third.

[ClydeCoulter]

There's so much on the toobz that's amusing we don't need movie theaters anymore. :D

EDIT: especially at least the first 10 12 1/2 minutes of this too:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JioleLHOeqg

Yep, "Cash Cow". Brought to you by those that almost know something, at least all of the right terminology and phrases of the day, given the particular field.