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Bryan
12-08-2013, 11:50 AM
This thread is intended to be a collection point of the strong pros and cons of any potential liberty candidate / campaign that is being discussed / promoted on the forum. You are welcome to post both positive and not-so-positive attributes about the candidate as they related to their position on supporting liberty as well as issues relating to their campaign. The most important information may be aggregated in this top post for easy reference.

Candidate Name: Mark Bircher
Office Sought: U.S. House, Florida 13th Congressional District
Website: http://www.bircherforcongress.com/
Social Media:
https://www.facebook.com/markbircherfl
https://twitter.com/MarkBircherFL
http://vimeo.com/80936692


Candidate Profile: On the Issues
Civil Liberties: [Rating TBD]
Constitutional Issues: [Rating TBD]
Economic Issues: [Rating TBD]
Foreign Policy: [Rating TBD]
Social Issues: [Rating TBD]
Overall Issues Rating: [Rating TBD]

Race Profile: Competition & Demographics
State: Florida
District: 13th Congressional District
Incumbent:
Other Primary Candidates:
Non-Incumbent Candidates from Other Parties:
Relevant poll numbers: None.
Overall Race Profile Rating: [Rating TBD]

Miscellaneous Pros/Cons
Key strong points:

Unknown points for further research:

Possible weak points:

Possible deal breakers:

Overall Rating:

neverseen
12-08-2013, 08:18 PM
Candidate Name: Mark Bircher
Office Sought: U.S. House, Florida 13th Congressional District
Website: http://www.bircherforcongress.com/
Social Media:
https://www.facebook.com/markbircherfl
https://twitter.com/MarkBircherFL
http://vimeo.com/80936692


Candidate Profile: On the Issues
Civil Liberties: [Rating TBD]
Constitutional Issues: [Rating TBD]
Economic Issues: [Rating TBD]
Foreign Policy: [Rating TBD]
Social Issues: [Rating TBD]
Overall Issues Rating: [Rating TBD]

Race Profile: Competition & Demographics
State: Florida
District: 13th Congressional District
Incumbent: None. Special election due to the passing of Congressman Young.
Other Primary Candidates: Lobbyist David Jolly and State Rep Kathleen Peters
Non-Incumbent Candidates from Other Parties: After primary in general is Dem Alex Sink and LP Lucas Overby
Relevant poll numbers: Jolly pulled 28%, Peters 27%, and Mark Bircher 17 percent. http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/poll-david-jolly--28-kathleen-peters-27-david-bircher-17/2155458
Overall Race Profile Rating: [Rating TBD] FYI, this is one of the highest profile seats in congress.

Miscellaneous Pros/Cons
Key strong points:
He's a liberty guy. Will provide questionaire detailing positions but trust me, he's a Ron Paul guy.
He has a STRONG military background. General, Marine, Blue Angel Piolet, Iraq vet, etc.

Unknown points for further research:
No records come up for donations, etc. This seems to be his first race.

Possible weak points:
He's unknown

Possible deal breakers:
1 month until election.
Overall Rating:

TaftFan
12-08-2013, 08:29 PM
+1 for the last name!

edit: Damn, he is a Brigadier General.

Let's hope he is a Ron Paul guy. We need credibility in the foreign policy area. Zoller, although he won't run for the special election, instead the main election, seems conflicted over whether he is a libertarian or a NorthEast liberal.

neverseen
12-08-2013, 10:59 PM
Multiple local grassroots groups are actively supporting him now. Starting to see people donate now as well. It's picking up steam fast. Had the pres of the YR club contact me for his contact info so he could speak at their meeting on Tues. Good stuff!

TaftFan
12-08-2013, 11:40 PM
Multiple local grassroots groups are actively supporting him now. Starting to see people donate now as well. It's picking up steam fast. Had the pres of the YR club contact me for his contact info so he could speak at their meeting on Tues. Good stuff!

Hoe do you know him?

CG1976
12-09-2013, 08:12 AM
So, as a military guy and a liberty guy, how does he feel about things like NDAA?

Brian4Liberty
12-09-2013, 11:54 AM
He's a liberty guy. Will provide questionaire detailing positions but trust me, he's a Ron Paul guy.

We'll need some confirmation on that. His website doesn't have anything other than he's ex-Military.

And this is the same District that Zoller is running in.

CG1976
12-09-2013, 02:18 PM
I worry when it's a military guy with the whole defense over rights thing, but I do believe this guy may be the best in the special. Still think Zoller is better in general, and really think young, liberty candidates can help the liberty movement. My two cents, and would like to know about the defense vs. rights issue

neverseen
12-09-2013, 08:48 PM
He is NOT in the same race as Nick Zoller. This is the Jan primary for the March special election. Zoller is in the regular election at the end of 2014. I do feel he is a FAR stronger candidate than Zoller on both issues and... "electability."


Hoe do you know him?
After the Ron Paul stuff, I co founded the RLC of Tampa Bay and I'm Vice Chair. Was also on the board for YR's and am a REC member. Not to sound cocky, but I know just about everyone at this point. Politics are local, right?

Questionnaire will come out on the 16th from the RLC, I tried to get an early release, but the board wants everyone to be able to respond. 16th is the last day.


So, as a military guy and a liberty guy, how does he feel about things like NDAA?

NDAA... in a long winded response, repeal. You won't believe the amount of amazing in his response to the question about it.
Drones... violation of Constitution unless congress declares war.
War... only Marines allowed to enter a nation per clause 13 (president and/or congress) with out a war declaration but only congress for Army (cited multiple sources in law). Only congress can declare war. Okay to evacuate embassies but not attack in countries like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc with no declaration. Cites Washington’s farewell address.
Suspend all foreign aid at least until budget crisis is over.

Want more? This is me paraphrasing. This is just a gloss over of some issues. The survey will be published and press released and posted on the 4 corners of the web starting the 16th. This is my interpretation of what I read to help ease your minds. He is WELL written and cites many places in the constitution, and other law in his responses.


Drones in the US: Domestic surveillance by warrant only.
War on drugs: Fed’s out, let states worry about it.
States rights, Nullify: cites 9th and 10th amendment. Fed gov works for the states, not the other way around.
What departments to eliminate? DoE, HUD, H&S, etc…. anything outside of the enumerated powers. Details about stripping out things that are allowed but are too big.
ACA: Outside of enumerated powers… repeal.
Healthcare: Agrees with Dr. Carson.
Marriage: State right issue. No fed involvement.
Abortion: State right issue.
Federal Reserve: “See Ron Paul’s comments for my position.”
Taxes: Short term: Balance budget. Long term: Repeal 16th.

CG1976
12-09-2013, 09:05 PM
Thanks for all the info. Good luck to your candidate.

neverseen
12-09-2013, 09:17 PM
Hopefully you'll be out there with me helping and voting for him too since he's not running against Zoller but is running against a lobbyist and a liberal...

CG1976
12-09-2013, 09:22 PM
I've heard bircher is more tea party. I don't support tea partiers. I'll probably vote jolly in the special, even if he's a slick ass. I think Bircher is most likely to pull conservatives from jolly and give us Latvala's little girl.

neverseen
12-09-2013, 09:24 PM
I've heard bircher is more tea party. I don't support tea partiers. I'll probably vote jolly in the special, even if he's a slick ass. I think Bircher is most likely to pull conservatives from jolly and give us Latvala's little girl.

Yah, you are far, far, far off base. Makes me wonder if you actually are Zoller. Sad that you would pick a lobbyist over a Ron Paul guy, and admit it on a Ron Paul website... but hey, at least now we know!

TaftFan
12-09-2013, 09:28 PM
I've heard bircher is more tea party. I don't support tea partiers. I'll probably vote jolly in the special, even if he's a slick ass. I think Bircher is most likely to pull conservatives from jolly and give us Latvala's little girl.

Ron Paul is a Tea Partier.

CG1976
12-09-2013, 09:37 PM
Where does Bircher stand on social issues? That's where I have issues with many tea party guys is social issues no need to insult me I was merely expressing my thoughts just as you have. Guess I get attacked for that though?

neverseen
12-11-2013, 07:38 PM
Where does Bircher stand on social issues? That's where I have issues with many tea party guys is social issues no need to insult me I was merely expressing my thoughts just as you have. Guess I get attacked for that though?

Attacked for even considering to support Jolly over Bircher.

Social issues.... he's against federal regulation of state issues. Abortion, Marriage, etc are all state issues that the federal gov should not have a hand in. This is covered in the Dec 16th annoucement.

PS. I just shot him $100. He sent out mailers today, and TV ad's are going on. He's in this to win. He's right behind the two leaders and his media coverage is just starting out.

Mailer, it's a facebook link, let me know if you can't see it.
https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1507837_10102378780910831_2053935618_n.jpg
https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1499508_10102378781005641_1488720072_n.jpg
https://scontent-b-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/1460223_10102378783440761_456390488_n.jpg

Brian4Liberty
12-11-2013, 08:10 PM
He is NOT in the same race as Nick Zoller. This is the Jan primary for the March special election. Zoller is in the regular election at the end of 2014. I do feel he is a FAR stronger candidate than Zoller on both issues and... "electability."

So, if Bircher won this special election, he wouldn't run against Zoller next year in the regular Primary election?

Brian4Liberty
12-11-2013, 08:18 PM
I've heard bircher is more tea party.

Sounds like Bircher is the one to support.

neverseen
12-11-2013, 08:43 PM
Is there a change that zoller and bircher end up in a primary in late 2014 for the regular election? Yes... one would hope that one of the two would bow out and support the other. If bircher is elected, I would hope that zoller supported him. Otherwise an establishment canidate put out by King Latvala will win.

Zoller is a decent candidate on the issues, but I have my doubts that a 24 year old will win in a county of 60 year olds. May not be the right way to feel... but at least I'm honest about it...

neverseen
12-11-2013, 08:46 PM
BTW, getting donation matches on facebook :) :) :) :)

CG1976
12-11-2013, 10:24 PM
Cleared up my worries about him, neverseen. I guess I was misinformed about Bircher, thanks for sharing all the info. I'll probably toss him a small donation. Can't do much but if he's really liberty then ill support the guy.

neverseen
12-16-2013, 07:20 PM
Cleared up my worries about him, neverseen. I guess I was misinformed about Bircher, thanks for sharing all the info. I'll probably toss him a small donation. Can't do much but if he's really liberty then ill support the guy.

Tip of the hat to you. I hope to see you around supporting Bircher in the special, and either Bircher or Zoller in the regular election when it goes off.

Guys, We are delayed on tonight's release. Working on the website update and press release. Here are some of his responses. I'm going to go ahead and get some answers out here so you can see he means business. He's what we are looking for and he has a resume that is close to untouchable. He's just about as perfect a candidate as you can get in the liberty movement, and by FAR the best we've had in the Tampa Bay Area, yet.

He did a mailer that hit the same time as mail ballots. He's doing local ad's on Fox local (overair channel, not foxnews), and he's going to do another mailer shortly. Support is picking up for him and we have various local leaders reaching out to other much larger liberty supporting organizations. We have a serious shot at getting a victory here. He's the only of the 3 that have a shot at beating Alex Sink, the dem. The race will be in the millions of dollars when it reaches that level, but we MUST get our guy in now before nationwide GOP/DEM support starts kicking in for this major seat in the House.



Economic Issues & Taxes
1. What can Congress do to help return manufacturing jobs to the United States? No US trade negotiator may sit on any foreign company board of directors or similar organization for ten years after leaving government service. Everything Congress does must either add to the security of the states or relate to enhancing US business interests, jobs, trade, economic growth, markets, etc. Everything else is purview of state legislator.

Foreign Policy
5. When is US military intervention in other nations justified? US Const Art I Sec 8, clauses 11, 12, 13, control. Depends upon the nature of the situation requiring intervention and the intervention forces anticipated. For example, military intervention to evacuate an embassy staff and American citizens during civil unrest in a foreign country, as opposed to major actions like Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, etc. NO undeclared wars. Only US Marines allowed to intervene without war declaration, (clause 13 – congressional authority to maintain a Navy, Marines in Dept of Navy,). The President and Congress have the constitutional authority to deploy Marines, but Congressional approval by “up or down” vote of Congress is required to deploy US Army, (clause 12) . “Since only the People actually pay in ‘Blood and Treasure’ for war, only the People may properly decide upon war.” Thomas Jefferson. George Washington’s “Farewell Address”, probably the best source for cogent policy on this issue.

Civil Liberties
9. Do you favor a repeal of the indefinite detention provisions in the NDAA of 2012? Why or why not? The ancient based writ of habeas corpus is arguably the most powerful tool of free men over injustice ever invented. Arbitrary imprisonment is the most pernicious indicator of government tyranny that exists. I favor repeal of all government actions that trample the US Constitution. If history is a teacher, the people of the US are closer than they can ever imagine to the abuse the government now projects on “enemy combatants.” Detained people are either prisoners of war, or suspected criminals. There are no other possibilities. In either case, the process of law controls. Inventing new classifications of detainees, e.g., “enemy combatant” and new processes “ad hoc” are Orwellian in there circumvention of law. “‘Necessity’, is the justification of tyrants and the creed of slaves.” William Pitt.

The US Constitution
13. Are there any departments of the federal government that you believe could be significantly scaled back, reallocated to the states, or ended completely? If so, which ones, and why? All departments, agencies, bureaus, etc., in the Executive Branch that are outside of the enumerated powers, e.g., Dept of Educ, HUD, H&S, etc., should be eliminated in their entirety. We are actually losing our liberty faster on the “regulatory” side of the federal government, e.g., TSA, than the statutory. All other organizations with federal and state shared responsibilities should be eliminated or “right sized” in accordance with what the states say is required to support state interests.

Healthcare
15. What reforms do you propose or support to make healthcare more affordable and accessible? Any regulation of healthcare should be decided by the state legislatures, and not by the federal government. There is no reason central government is involved in healthcare. The word “affordable” is actually meaningless in the context of health care, except for its populist appeal. No has ever actually defined what “affordable” means in the ACA context; affordable to whom? Concerning healthcare, I am aligned with the ideas of Dr. Benjamin Carson.

Social Issues
16. In what way(s) should government be involved with marriage? None at the federal level. Whatever the states decide through their legislatures at the state level. 17. What involvement should the federal government have in regard to abortion? The Framers had abortion and covered the issue completely in the 9th Amendment. Again, a state issue. SCOTUS should never have granted certiorari to hear Roe v. Wade, or Doe v. Bolton because there is no valid federal question (privacy basis was specious at best, frivolous at worst) to provide jurisdiction.

Government Transparency
18. Currently, one US Congressman1 utilizes social networking to promote government transparency by sharing every single vote he casts in Congress, and providing an explanation for that vote. Will you promise to provide a similar level of openness and accessibility to the votes you cast? Yes. As a public servant, bright lights and transparency must be a component to enable the people’s scrutiny and review of their Rep’s voting record. Additional comments or thoughts: “A Republic deserves the government it elects or tolerates.” Thomas Jefferson

neverseen
12-17-2013, 05:03 PM
Media coverage http://www.wtsp.com/news/local/article/349020/8/Former-Blue-Angels-pilot-runs-for-Congress

CG1976
12-17-2013, 07:41 PM
Sent $25 who will match?

neverseen
12-17-2013, 09:40 PM
Sent $25 who will match?

Since THIS just released... I'll match you! Check out the responses. Amazingly they go from best to worst!! Of course our local liberal paper endorsed the worst of the responders...

Now that we have the issues out there from Bircher, and 1 month left in the Special Election... what's next on RPF for this evaluation??

https://rlctb.org/florida-cd-13-candidate-questionnaire-responses/

neverseen
12-17-2013, 09:46 PM
Donated $100 the other day. Just plopped down another $50 to double you! Who will double me?!?!?!?!?

RECEIPT DETAILS
Date 12/18/2013
Amount $50.00 (One Time)

TaftFan
12-18-2013, 03:30 PM
Allen West endorses Mark Bircher: http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/want-fight-obamacare-send-marine-bgen-mark-bircher/

Before anyone blows up, keep in mind West is probably endorsing him because he is a Brigadier General and doesn't care about much else. Hopefully this endorsement helps get Bircher attention.

Brian4Liberty
12-18-2013, 03:38 PM
Everything looks good so far.

neverseen
12-18-2013, 08:19 PM
Everything looks good so far.

Yup. So now what? Less than 1 month until vote day.

neverseen
12-18-2013, 10:55 PM
Allen West *gag* just endorsed him. He's doubled in facebook likes since yesterday.

https://www.facebook.com/markbircherfl

Edit... WOW check out the likes/shares from the endorsement on facebook. This is going to bring in a ton of money... https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10152394660081729&set=a.424759776728.200909.22067606728&type=1

Brian4Liberty
12-19-2013, 12:12 AM
Yup. So now what? Less than 1 month until vote day.

We could request the poll be put up.

Also post any articles you have in their own thread in the candidates section. Ground game in that Florida District is the most important with so little time.

neverseen
12-19-2013, 05:16 PM
We could request the poll be put up.

Also post any articles you have in their own thread in the candidates section. Ground game in that Florida District is the most important with so little time.

Yah, get up whatever we can. Money is rolling in fast with the West endorsement. He also just released 4 new TV ad's today on issues.

erowe1
12-19-2013, 05:36 PM
Allen West endorses Mark Bircher: http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/want-fight-obamacare-send-marine-bgen-mark-bircher/

Before anyone blows up, keep in mind West is probably endorsing him because he is a Brigadier General and doesn't care about much else.

Really? Because he sure didn't like Ron Paul. And it's hard for me to see how he would endorse a Ron Paul guy over others who are more like himself. How do we know Bircher's the real deal?

tsai3904
12-19-2013, 05:44 PM
Really? Because he sure didn't like Ron Paul. And it's hard for me to see how he would endorse a Ron Paul guy over others who are more like himself. How do we know Bircher's the real deal?

See Bircher's responses to this Republican Liberty Caucus questionnaire:

https://rlctb.org/florida-cd-13-candidate-questionnaire-responses/

I doubt Allen West knew about his views on drone strikes, NDAA, NSA, etc otherwise he wouldn't have endorsed him.

erowe1
12-19-2013, 05:56 PM
See Bircher's responses to this Republican Liberty Caucus questionnaire:

https://rlctb.org/florida-cd-13-candidate-questionnaire-responses/

I doubt Allen West knew about his views on drone strikes, NDAA, NSA, etc otherwise he wouldn't have endorsed him.

Thanks, that was great.

TaftFan
12-19-2013, 05:57 PM
See Bircher's responses to this Republican Liberty Caucus questionnaire:

https://rlctb.org/florida-cd-13-candidate-questionnaire-responses/

I doubt Allen West knew about his views on drone strikes, NDAA, NSA, etc otherwise he wouldn't have endorsed him.

Knowing West, he saw Brig. General and started typing his article.

neverseen
12-19-2013, 09:12 PM
Knowing West, he saw Brig. General and started typing his article.

Well, it's working. His donation streem is blowing up, his facebook likes more than doubled overnight, and all the sudden there are dozens and dozens of local articles covering him. He was 10 points behind in the first poll when he was an unknown. In the mean time, the two leaders are TRASHING each other with smears and stuff. It's CRAZY how nasty they are getting... meanwhile Bircher is sticking to the issues and catching on like a wild fire.

4 weeks until election. He's meeting with some big $$$ liberty groups for potential endorsement. We'll know soon if he gets the huge money or not... In the mean time, he's running ads of the donations he's getting. I gave $250 so far. What do you have?

Brian4Liberty
12-20-2013, 01:00 PM
Someone spreading the word over at the Daily Paul:

http://www.dailypaul.com/308298/us-marine-brigadier-general-joins-the-r3volution

neverseen
12-20-2013, 03:43 PM
Someone spreading the word over at the Daily Paul:

http://www.dailypaul.com/308298/us-marine-brigadier-general-joins-the-r3volution


Yah, I just got a text telling me to check out the daily paul thread!! LOVE IT!!! Come on RPF... Let's get on board!

neverseen
12-21-2013, 01:21 PM
Mark Bircher for Congress was on the Liberty Underground Show yesterday. The link starts with his interview:

Thoughts on the interview?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bRd-h4YgV9c#t=4479

Brian4Liberty
12-21-2013, 02:25 PM
Mark Bircher for Congress was on the Liberty Underground Show yesterday. The link starts with his interview:

Thoughts on the interview?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bRd-h4YgV9c#t=4479

It's long!

My impressions:

Mixed bag. Hard to tell where he would stand on some issues. He repeated his answer of "you'll know it when you see it" many times. Paraphrased example - Q: Federal or State issue. A: You'll know it when you see it. It didn't seem like he has a "liberty" background as much as maybe a Constitutional/Tea Party background.

Military is his priority, as would be expected with his background.
He wants wars to be declared.
He couldn't really answer the question about whether we should leave Afghanistan.
He said he would defer to experts on economic solutions at one point. The question is, which "experts"? Goldman Sachs? Bill Gates? Warren Buffet? Ron Paul?
Even though we are in debt, he still supports foreign aid if he feels it is in the US interest.
Pot and gay marriage, he evaded the issues.
A lot of answers were, "I'll have to wait and see when I get to Washington."

Brian4Liberty
12-21-2013, 02:33 PM
Allen West endorses Mark Bircher: http://allenbwest.com/2013/12/want-fight-obamacare-send-marine-bgen-mark-bircher/

Before anyone blows up, keep in mind West is probably endorsing him because he is a Brigadier General and doesn't care about much else. Hopefully this endorsement helps get Bircher attention.

After listening to the long interview, West probably knows him a bit better that that.

Not saying he's terrible, but the guy seems like he would be more Ted Cruz than Ron Paul.

neverseen
12-22-2013, 11:15 AM
After listening to the long interview, West probably knows him a bit better that that.

Not saying he's terrible, but the guy seems like he would be more Ted Cruz than Ron Paul.

You can tell he's new to politics and doesn't know how to answer a lot of questions in an interview. I'm still VERY happy with him between the questionnaire and the interview. The difference between tea party and liberty...? Tea party people want everything legislated at the federal level (no gay marriage, no abortions, death to muslims) but the liberty guys want us to follow the constitution and only use the federal government for it's most basic purposes. This seems to be Bircher's stance. I couldn't care less his view on abortion or gay marriage since he's for directing it to the states. It's a moot point. He's against the drug war, etc. Can't beat that. All around he's one of the better candidates running in any federal race right now...

Joe Jordan
12-22-2013, 08:47 PM
I've had the good fortune to meet General Bircher and he is the genuine article. His interviewing skills could use some crispness and polish, but IMO he is a diamond in the rough, and a GREAT shot in the arm to the Liberty Movement.

He has an unmatched record of service; a humble and honorable man who would represent Florida CD-13 well in Congress. Let's get this man elected!!

http://bircherforcongress.com/

CG1976
12-27-2013, 07:55 PM
Mailed my ballot in for Bircher today! Fingers crossed.

neverseen
01-02-2014, 02:57 PM
Mailed my ballot in for Bircher today! Fingers crossed.

Endorsed by the Republican Liberty Caucus:
http://rlc.org/article/rlc-endorses-mark-bircher-january-14th-florida-cd14-special-election

Endorsed by Liberty Tampa Bay:
http://libertytampabay.com/liberty-tampa-bay-recommends-mark-bircher-for-cd13-special-election/#more-1327

neverseen
01-04-2014, 01:44 PM
Endorsed by the Republican Liberty Caucus:
http://rlc.org/article/rlc-endorses-mark-bircher-january-14th-florida-cd14-special-election

Endorsed by Liberty Tampa Bay:
http://libertytampabay.com/liberty-tampa-bay-recommends-mark-bircher-for-cd13-special-election/#more-1327

Endorsed by Allen West:
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/the-buzz-florida-politics/allen-west-backs-mark-bircher-in-race-for-young-seat/2157719


Another endorsement: Combat Veterans for Congress Pac: http://combatveteransforcongress.org/cand/3030

neverseen
01-04-2014, 01:48 PM
Allen West was kind enough to mail this to just about everyone in the county (GOP) the day before early voting started (yesterday).

https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/1512683_756204584407182_957171840_n.jpg

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neverseen
01-04-2014, 01:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3P5slcnAU

Debate forum with Mark and front runner Jolly. They had about 3 news cameras there and about 7 small cameras there filming the event.

Bastiat's The Law
01-04-2014, 02:28 PM
This is the first time I ever heard of him. He's certainly checking all the boxes with that questionnaire he answered.

1. Is he trustworthy?

2. Is he polished?

Bastiat's The Law
01-04-2014, 02:39 PM
Wasn't there a big Ron Paul group from Clearwater Florida, which is in this district? I'd like to hear their take on Bircher.

Brian4Liberty
01-04-2014, 05:06 PM
Mark Bircher for Congress was on the Liberty Underground Show yesterday. The link starts with his interview:

Thoughts on the interview?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=bRd-h4YgV9c#t=4479


This is the first time I ever heard of him. He's certainly checking all the boxes with that questionnaire he answered.

1. Is he trustworthy?

2. Is he polished?

Listen to that interview and give us your impression.

neverseen
01-04-2014, 07:09 PM
This is the first time I ever heard of him. He's certainly checking all the boxes with that questionnaire he answered.

1. Is he trustworthy?

2. Is he polished?

1. Yes.

2. No, but getting better every day. Listen to the Liberty Underground interview and then the Candidate Forum that was 1.5 weeks later. He still struggles on Yes/No foreign policy answers and wants to analyze every detail as you can expect a general would.


Wasn't there a big Ron Paul group from Clearwater Florida, which is in this district? I'd like to hear their take on Bircher.

Yes, and out of it we formed the RLC of Tampa Bay. I am vice-chair. We are all supporting Bircher.
Endorsed by LTB which us Ron Paul people formed: http://libertytampabay.com/liberty-tampa-bay-recommends-mark-bircher-for-cd13-special-election/#more-1327
Endorsed by RLCTB via RLC which us Ron Paul people formed: http://rlc.org/article/rlc-endorses-mark-bircher-january-14th-florida-cd13-special-election

More vids:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vo-Euoef3YM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zOOJA4NrCog

TaftFan
01-04-2014, 07:18 PM
neverseen, are you getting mailers from the other candidates too? Signs? How does it look on the ground?

neverseen
01-04-2014, 07:33 PM
neverseen, are you getting mailers from the other candidates too? Signs? How does it look on the ground?

There's a handful of signs from each campaign out there. Not a lot of focus on signs from what I can see. Peters' does have a couple huge ones around town.

Mailers from Peters' are all attacks only on Jolly. They highlight that he is an insider and donated $30,000 to dems.

Mailers from Jolly are all attacks only on Peters. They highlight her lack of clarity on the issues such as obamacare.

Mailers from Bircher went out with mail ballots. They were probircher mailers, no attacks. Allen West sent the mailer pictured above (perfect timing) on Friday, the day before early voting began (today through the 12th).

Peters' has some walkers and a seemingly averagely managed campaign and a decent amount of money. She raised in the 6 figures and has a decent amount left.

Jolly has a really well managed campaign and a lot of money. He probably has about 100k on hand. They are doing phone calls.

Bircher has grassroots supports and a media team that is working on his mailers and tv ads. The grassroots is more or less managing the campaign at this time. He is mostly self funded with about $40,000 invested of the $60,000 or so total raised. 2 weeks before election day he has about 10k left.

TaftFan
01-04-2014, 07:49 PM
Do you think if you wrote letters to the editors of the local newspapers in support of Bircher they would go out on time?

neverseen
01-04-2014, 08:05 PM
Do you think if you wrote letters to the editors of the local newspapers in support of Bircher they would go out on time?

Wouldn't hurt to try. We have one that's from the RLC Chair that will be sent in.

Guys, watch this part of the video about drones. Tell me this alone is worth a donation. Use the link so it takes you to the time stamp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3P5slcnAU#t=1944

neverseen
01-04-2014, 08:26 PM
RLC just put this out about Jolly and Bircher:
https://www.facebook.com/RLCTB/posts/756736384354002?notif_t=notify_me

Read more at the link above...

“Do you want a Washington lobbyist as your Congressman?”

Repeat it, over and over. Because you know Alex Sink will. And she has a lot more money than any primary candidate David Jolly now faces. Regrettably, she will probably have enough money to say “Washington Lobbyist” enough times that she will hold on to her lead in the polls through Election Day.

We need to level the playing field.

neverseen
01-05-2014, 12:46 PM
Another soundbite video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxt9FrLEZ4w

neverseen
01-10-2014, 07:56 AM
Final poll is out!

Within striking distance!

Jolly:36.5%
Bircher:26.3%
Peters:23.9%
Undecided:13.3%

http://www.scribd.com/doc/198248277/Final-Poll-of-CD-13-GOP-Primary

tsai3904
01-10-2014, 11:03 AM
Final poll is out!

Within striking distance!

Jolly:36.5%
Bircher:26.3%
Peters:23.9%
Undecided:13.3%

http://www.scribd.com/doc/198248277/Final-Poll-of-CD-13-GOP-Primary

48% of polled already voted and Jolly has 10 point lead with them. It's going to be extremely difficult to overcome that but there is a chance. Good thing there's still the regular primary and general election. Seems like Bircher has a lot of momentum for that election.

tsai3904
01-14-2014, 06:41 PM
100% reporting:



David Jolly
20,337
44.6%


Kathleen Peters
14,120
31.0%


Mark Bircher
11,158
24.5%


Bircher's late entrance into the race really affected him as early voting went Jolly 44, Peters 33 and Bircher 23. Early voting accounted for probably half the votes.

William Tell
01-14-2014, 06:57 PM
100% reporting: David Jolly 20,337 44.6% Kathleen Peters 14,120 31.0% Mark Bircher 11,158 24.5% Bircher's late entrance into the race really affected him as early voting went Jolly 44, Peters 33 and Bircher 23. Early voting accounted for probably half the votes. Will he be running in the August Primary? Does anyone know yet? If he runs again, he needs a new game plan. It is very hard to win through media and mail. He has a great bio, I hope he runs again some time and wins. I know it is depressing to lose races, but we can't give up.

tsai3904
01-14-2014, 07:00 PM
Will he be running in the August Primary? Does anyone know yet?

This race just ended minutes ago. I doubt he'll make plans for the August primary today. I would think he'll wait until after the Special General Election to make an announcement.

William Tell
01-14-2014, 07:32 PM
This race just ended minutes ago. I doubt he'll make plans for the August primary today. I would think he'll wait until after the Special General Election to make an announcement. I would tend to agree, but I saw talk about it weeks ago, that's why I asked.

TaftFan
08-26-2015, 02:02 PM
Jolly is running for Senate.

I have been tipped off that Bircher is going to be running again.

TaftFan
12-09-2015, 06:19 PM
He is running again with Jolly running for Senate:
http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/pilot-and-retired-marine-general-mark-bircher-is-first-republican-to-file/2256206