No standing ovation from Congress as another black mother flees police checkpoint and survives

[enhanced_deficit]

She also had her kids in vehicle with her after she fled police check point (but unlike unlucky Miriam Carey who did not survive after she fled a police checkpoint (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?430954-Lawyer-representing-family-of-Miriam-Carey-arrested&p=5275479&viewfull=1#post5275479)), this mother is lucky:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaPF7wSJEuw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaPF7wSJEuw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qaPF7wSJEuw)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4mU8g0NQw4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4mU8g0NQw4

[FrankRep]

Yeah, don't run from the police. Stupid.


She was pulled over for speeding, BTW.

[enhanced_deficit]

Yeah, don't run from the police. Stupid.


She was pulled over for speeding, BTW.

So in your view, following is wise or stupid decision?

New Mexico Officer in Van Shooting Is Fired

SANTA FE, N.M. December 7, 2013 (AP)
By BARRY MASSEY Associated Press
Three New Mexico State Police officers react as a minivan driven by motorist Oriana Farrell pulls away from a chaotic traffic stop that included one officer bashing the van's window with his night stick and another, Elias Montoya, at left, firing three shots as the van drives off. (AP Photo/New Mexico State Police)

The New Mexico State Police officer who fired shots at a minivan full of children during a chaotic October traffic stop has been fired, a spokesman with the law enforcement agency said Friday.
Lt. Emmanuel Gutierrez, a State Police spokesman, said he confirmed with State Police Chief Pete Kassetas that Officer Elias Montoya was no longer employed by the department. Montoya's termination was effective at 5 p.m. Friday.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/mexico-officer-van-shooting-fired-21130722



Not only he didn't get no standing ovation from Congress, he got fired. What a raw deal he got compared to those DC cops who chased and "neutralized" Miriam Carey.
In this case there was also hand to hand scuffle involved betweeh her 14 year old boy and police and this woman's lawyer has also not been arrested as of now.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG7sIbvP4lk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pG7sIbvP4lk

[fr33]

Yeah, don't run from the police. Stupid.


She was pulled over for speeding, BTW.

Also, don't put your hands in your pockets (http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?434880-Unarmed-Man-Is-Charged-With-Wounding-Bystanders-Shot-by-Police). You'll get shot.

Also, don't sit down or lay on the ground for them (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUs_6yTcLW4). You'll get shot.




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jk_pJkQhBk

[FrankRep]

So in your view, following is wise or stupid decision?

All I said was to not to run from the police.

[dannno]

All I said was to not to run from the police.

Would you advise a Jewish person run from the Stasi in 1940 Germany?

[enhanced_deficit]

All I said was to not to run from the police.

I see that you are focussing on non-police party is conduct only so far. I was hoping you will have an opinion on the conduct of the policing party too that is trained and tax payers funded. But main point here is sharp contrast in how the victims/police actions in two similar cases are being treated.

[RonPaulFanInGA]

To be honest, he does look like he is shooting at the left rear tire.

[enhanced_deficit]

Would you advise a Jewish person run from the Stasi in 1940 Germany?

Yesterday I was discussing if during Hitler's poular rule his supporters used to bring up "respect for Office of the Premier" to dismiss his critics then.

[susano]

So in your view, following is wise or stupid decision?

New Mexico Officer in Van Shooting Is Fired

SANTA FE, N.M. December 7, 2013 (AP)
By BARRY MASSEY Associated Press
Three New Mexico State Police officers react as a minivan driven by motorist Oriana Farrell pulls away from a chaotic traffic stop that included one officer bashing the van's window with his night stick and another, Elias Montoya, at left, firing three shots as the van drives off. (AP Photo/New Mexico State Police)

The New Mexico State Police officer who fired shots at a minivan full of children during a chaotic October traffic stop has been fired, a spokesman with the law enforcement agency said Friday.
Lt. Emmanuel Gutierrez, a State Police spokesman, said he confirmed with State Police Chief Pete Kassetas that Officer Elias Montoya was no longer employed by the department. Montoya's termination was effective at 5 p.m. Friday.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/mexico-officer-van-shooting-fired-21130722



Not only he didn't get no standing ovation from Congress, he got fired. What a raw deal he got compared to those DC cops who chased and "neutralized" Miriam Carey.
In this case there was also hand to hand scuffle involved betweeh her 14 year old boy and police and this woman's lawyer has also not been arrested as of now.





Does that imply that a lawyer for Miriam's family was arrested?!

That cop that smashed the window in with his billy club should also be fired.

[FrankRep]

Would you advise a Jewish person run from the Stasi in 1940 Germany?

The Stasi (Communist) was created in 1950, after Nazi Germany fell.

Markus Wolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Wolf), the head of the Stasi, was Jewish.


You have your facts mixed up.

[dannno]

The Stasi (Communist) was created in 1950, after Nazi Germany fell.

Markus Wolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Wolf), the head of the Stasi, was Jewish.


You have your facts mixed up.

No, I have my terms mixed up, I meant SS instead of Stasi.

[enhanced_deficit]

To be honest, he does look like he is shooting at the left rear tire.

Probably.
Most likely Miriam Carey would have been alive today if this cop was chasing her on that fateful day in DC instead of more militirized freedom police there.



Does that imply that a lawyer for Miriam's family was arrested?!



Yes, he was promptly put away right after he went on natiomal TV raising questions and demanding "Justice for Miriam".


Lawyer representing family of Miriam Carey, Conn. mom killed in U.S. Capitol car chase, arrested, report says

By
Stephanie Slifer (http://www.cbsnews.com/8300-504083_162-504083.html?contributor=10471513)

http://i.i.cbsi.com/cnwk.1d/i/tim2/2013/10/04/DC_Suspect_Inset_244x183.jpg Miriam Carey, inset, as emergency personal help an injured person near the shooting close to the U.S. Capitol building in Wash., D.C.,

(CBS) NEW YORK - Eric Sanders, the lawyer who is representing the family of Miriam Carey, the Stamford, Conn. mother who led authorities on a chaotic car chase from the White House to the U.S. Capitol (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57606035-504083/miriam-carey-conn-woman-idd-as-driver-in-u.s-capitol-car-chase/)before being killed by authorities earlier this month, has been arrested for failing to pay court settlements against him, the New York Post reports. (http://nypost.com/2013/10/15/lawyer-representing-dc-crash-mom-arrested/)

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-57607623-504083/lawyer-representing-family-of-miriam-carey-conn-mom-killed-in-u.s-capitol-car-chase-arrested-report-says/

[RickyJ]

Would you advise a Jewish person run from the Stasi in 1940 Germany?

No, because then they would get shot instead of going to a work camp where they had swimming pools, put on theatrical performances, and played soccer when they weren't working.

[RickyJ]

The Stasi (Communist) was created in 1950, after Nazi Germany fell.

Markus Wolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Wolf), the head of the Stasi, was Jewish.


You have your facts mixed up.

Yes he does, like many do about Nazi Germany. The winners wrote the history books, and of course they made it seem like they were the good guys and the other guys were evil incarnate, they had to justify their inhumane treatment of German prisoners of war after the war was over somehow.

[DGambler]

So he was fired, big deal... Should have been charged with attempted murder.

He'll end with a job as a cop elsewhere I bet.

[Brian4Liberty]

Wow, so somebody else finally put these two stories together? Why does this seem so familiar? ;)

[mrsat_98]

The Stasi (Communist) was created in 1950, after Nazi Germany fell.

Markus Wolf (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Markus_Wolf), the head of the Stasi, was Jewish.


You have your facts mixed up.


No, I have my terms mixed up, I meant SS instead of Stasi.

It was the thought that counted.

[dannno]

No, because then they would get shot instead of going to a work camp where they had swimming pools, put on theatrical performances, and played soccer when they weren't working.

You forgot to mention the outstanding food service.

[phill4paul]

You forgot to mention the outstanding food service.

Excellent dental plan and weight loss programs.

[Christian Liberty]

Yeah, don't run from the police. Stupid.


She was pulled over for speeding, BTW.

I agree that its not worth it. Just take the ticket, live to fight another day.

That said, she was the victim here. Focusing on her conduct, rather than that of the pigs, is missing the point.




To be honest, he does look like he is shooting at the left rear tire.

Maybe, but so what? Does that justify what they did?

[Henry Rogue]

Yeah, don't run from the police. Stupid.
St. Valentine's Day Massacre


By John O'Brien Tribune staff reporter
On this frigid morning, in an unheated brick garage at 2122 N. Clark St., seven men were lined up against a whitewashed wall and pumped with 90 bullets from submachine guns, shotguns and a revolver. It was the most infamous of all gangland slayings in America, and it savagely achieved its purpose--the elimination of the last challenge to Al Capone for the mantle of crime boss in Chicago. By 1929, Capone's only real threat was George "Bugs" Moran, who headed his own gang and what was left of Dion O'Banion's band of bootleggers. Moran had long despised Capone, mockingly referring to him as "The Beast."

At about 10:30 a.m., four men burst into the SMC Cartage Co. garage that Moran used for his illegal business. Two of the men were dressed as police officers. The quartet presumably announced a raid and ordered the seven men inside the garage to line up against a wall. Then they opened fire. Witnesses, alerted by the rat-a-tat staccato of submachine guns, watched as the gunmen sped off in a black Cadillac touring car that looked like the kind police used, complete with siren, gong and rifle rack.The victims, killed outright or left dying in the garage

In Florida, Criminals Pose as Police More Frequently and for More Violent Ends
By DON VAN NATTA Jr.
Published: May 28, 2011

MIAMI — A black BMW flashing red and blue lights suddenly filled Alexandria Armeley’s rearview mirror one evening last month. At a stoplight, the BMW’s driver pulled up next to her, waved a gold badge and told her “I’m a cop.”



A growing problem: Houston crooks committing crimes while dressed as cops
by Doug Miller / KHOU 11 News

HOUSTON -- They sure looked like cops.

The five men who barged through the door of a townhouse Monday wore Houston police raid jackets and carried Tasers and pistols. They cuffed the homeowner with a plastic tie, then kicked him in the stomach and started ransacking the place.

Even a police officer who rushed to the scene after a neighbor called for help momentarily thought the criminals were legitimate law enforcement officers working with a tactical squad. Only after they started running did he realize the impersonators were burglars.


She was pulled over for speeding, BTW.Oh, well that makes all the difference then. It's clear now, she deserved to be shot at along with any other occupants.

[enhanced_deficit]

Miriam Carey's family asks feds to investigate Washington, DC ... (http://www.newstimes.com/news/article/Miriam-Carey-s-family-asks-feds-to-investigate-5020048.php)STAMFORD -- The lawyer for the family of Miriam Carey has asked U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder to look into Carey's fatal shooting in ...