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DamianTV
12-03-2013, 08:40 PM
http://www.infowars.com/lawmaker-amazon-drone-could-photograph-your-home/


Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
December 3, 2013

Following the announcement of Amazon’s plan to deliver items using drones within five years, lawmakers responded by warning that the devices could be used to gather private information on customers and called for strict privacy safeguards.

Reacting to Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos’ unveiling of prototype Octocopters that would deliver items weighing up to 2.3kg to customers within 30 minutes of an order being placed online, Rep. Ted Poe (R-Texas) cautioned that without careful regulations, “companies could use drones for information gathering whether that is taking a photograph of your patio furniture or recording the make and model of your car.”

His sentiments were echoed by Sen. Mark Udall (D-Colo.), who said that the drones have “the potential to change everything,” and must be tightly controlled by law.

“Coloradans will accept this technology only if they are certain their privacy is protected and that Americans won’t be victims of surveillance or privacy abuse by private unmanned aerial system operators,” said Udall.

Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) said that such rules must be in place “before our skies teem with commercial drones.”

The ACLU’s Chris Calabrese said that once Amazon launches its drone delivery program, other companies will quickly follow suit, creating a massive new threat to privacy. “If [drones] start to be everywhere, and you can use them for anything you want, you really do have eyes in the sky all the time,” he warned.

Many have speculated that the only way to deter theft of the drones or the products they are delivering to customers will be to attach high-tech surveillance cameras to the devices that would feed live video footage back to a central database.

“One solution that has been floated is installing cameras on the drones, but just the mention of eyes in the sky got America’s privacy-obsessed sections seething,” reports FirstPost.

The Octocopters set to be used by Amazon are designed to carry cameras weighing up to 5 pounds.

Meanwhile, experts have warned that the drones will inevitably crash into people and other objects because the technology is not yet sophisticated enough to equip the drones with spatial awareness that would prevent collisions.

Other concerns have centered around the drones being shot out of the sky or compromised by hackers.

Here they go with the Corporate Camera you must agree to allow to photograph inside your home. Its as bad as that fucking Facebook app that demands to have Unlimited Un-notified Access to your Cell Phone Mic and Camera AT ANY TIME.

Christian Liberty
12-03-2013, 09:14 PM
If a drone kills someone, the person responsible should be executed.

Spying on anyone without permission should be legal.

I don't see need for anything more than those two rules.

DamianTV
12-03-2013, 09:22 PM
If a drone kills someone, the person responsible should be executed.

Spying on anyone without permission should be legal.

I don't see need for anything more than those two rules.

Did I read that correctly? Please validate this claim that everyone should have the Right to violate everyone elses Rights (unless that was a typo...).

Drones: Problem there is that NO PERSON will be responsible if its ALL Automated. What happens when we get Automatic Police Forces that abuse the people the same way as our current Human Cops do?

Brian4Liberty
12-03-2013, 09:24 PM
“Coloradans will accept this technology only if they are certain their privacy is protected and that Americans won’t be victims of surveillance or privacy abuse by private unmanned aerial system operators,” said Udall.

Lol! Yeah right. The NSA will mandate that all cameras from these drones feed live to NSA servers, and that DHS and law enforcement have authority to over-ride and redirect the drones at will. All via secret orders that will result in the Amazon CEO going to jail if he spills the beans.

green73
12-03-2013, 09:24 PM
Thank god for our protectors in Washington.

Natural Citizen
12-03-2013, 09:28 PM
Other concerns have centered around the drones being shot out of the sky or compromised by hackers.

That last line is predictable as we see some of these companies try to play the "National Security" card. This, as usual, provides the terms of controversy for yet anothermeans of corporate merge with government that would solicit questionable legislation written or lobbied by the same companies which would infringe upon th natural citizen.

Kind of like when Chertoff was the guy writing the rules that just happened to conform to his stash of xray scanners?

Anyhoo. Fuggem. I just won't shop at Amazon anymore. Of course, what if my neighbor still does? I guess I'm supposed to just be OK with having my privacy threatened because he ordered a 5x tee shirt and a beer coolie?

DamianTV
12-03-2013, 09:31 PM
Thank god for our protectors in Washington.

were fucked

CPUd
12-03-2013, 10:06 PM
Develop a landing pad that can be installed on a roof, and a delivery system to get the goods down. Mass produce and profit.

What will probably end up happening is that they will contract with local businesses, like supermarkets, to be a designated drop-off zone. Then the final delivery would be done by courier, or people could go there to pick up their stuff.

Thor
12-03-2013, 10:40 PM
Wait, doesn't Google already photograph your home for the world to see? And that is not "optional." Selecting DAD (Drone Air Delivery) I think is an expedited shipping option for the impatient.

Business opportunity.... Community DAD landing pad. DAD Pads. When you gotta have it now, but don't want your own pad spied upon.

Carson
12-03-2013, 10:51 PM
You could always go for the bookstore considering using owl's for delivery.


Bookseller to Amazon: We see your bullshiat 'delivery drones' publicity stunt and raise you owls

Story;

http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2316491/waterstones-counters-amazon-drones-with-owls


Comments;

http://www.fark.com/comments/8042953/Bookseller-to-Amazon-We-see-your-bullshiat-delivery-drones-publicity-stunt-raise-you-owls

Origanalist
12-03-2013, 10:57 PM
Wait, doesn't Google already photograph your home for the world to see? And that is not "optional." Selecting DAD (Drone Air Delivery) I think is an expedited shipping option for the impatient.

Business opportunity.... Community DAD landing pad. DAD Pads. When you gotta have it now, but don't want your own pad spied upon.

Day late, dollar short.
Rep. Poe's concern is just a bit behind the times.

Brett85
12-03-2013, 11:02 PM
Is there a difference between a private company using drones like this and the government using drones?

Origanalist
12-03-2013, 11:06 PM
Is there a difference between a private company using drones like this and the government using drones?

Not when the government has complete access to the data.

donnay
12-03-2013, 11:12 PM
I think this was a publicity stunt (right before Christmas--how convenient) so more people will shop online. It is also to acclimate people to accept drones now because after all it will deliver their trinkets and gadgets much faster! :rolleyes:

Brett85
12-04-2013, 10:32 AM
Not when the government has complete access to the data.

How would the government have complete access to Amazon's data?

moostraks
12-04-2013, 11:47 AM
How would the government have complete access to Amazon's data?

Check this out for an example of how they can do such data collection:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM_(surveillance_program)

PRISM is a clandestine mass electronic surveillance data mining program known to have been operated by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) since 2007.[3][4][5] PRISM is a government code name for a data-collection effort known officially by the SIGAD US-984XN.[6][7] The Prism program collects stored Internet communications based on demands made to Internet companies such as Google Inc. under Section 702 of the FISA Amendments Act of 2008 to turn over any data that match court-approved search terms.[8] The NSA can use these Prism requests to target communications that were encrypted when they traveled across the Internet backbone, to focus on stored data that telecommunication filtering systems discarded earlier,[9][10] and to get data that is easier to handle, among other things.[11]
PRISM began in 2007 in the wake of the passage of the Protect America Act under the Bush Administration.[12][13] The program is operated under the supervision of the U.S. Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court (FISA Court, or FISC) pursuant to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).[14] Its existence was leaked six years later by NSA contractor Edward Snowden, who warned that the extent of mass data collection was far greater than the public knew and included what he characterized as "dangerous" and "criminal" activities.[15] The disclosures were published by The Guardian and The Washington Post on June 6, 2013. Subsequent documents have demonstrated a financial arrangement between NSA's Special Source Operations division (SSO) and PRISM partners in the millions of dollars. [16]
Documents indicate that PRISM is "the number one source of raw intelligence used for NSA analytic reports", and it accounts for 91% of the NSA's Internet traffic acquired under FISA section 702 authority."[17][18] The leaked information came to light one day after the revelation that the FISA Court had been ordering a subsidiary of telecommunications company Verizon Communications to turn over to the NSA logs tracking all of its customers' telephone calls on an ongoing daily basis.[19][20]

If they can do this then they will come up with another "need" for which they will demand a backdoor into Amazon's data. Just give it time...