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Lucille
11-30-2013, 10:09 AM
Precious.

This country has gone full retard.

'Preferred' pronouns gain traction at US colleges
http://news.yahoo.com/preferred-pronouns-gain-traction-us-colleges-064437446.html


OAKLAND, Calif. (AP) — The weekly meetings of Mouthing Off!, a group for students at Mills College in Oakland, Calif., who identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender, always start the same way. Members take turns going around the room saying their names and the personal pronouns they want others to use when referring to them — she, he or something else.

It's an exercise that might seem superfluous given that Mills, a small and leafy liberal arts school historically referred to as the Vassar of the West, only admits women as undergraduates. Yet increasingly, the "shes" and "hers" that dominate the introductions are keeping third-person company with "they," ''ze" and other neutral alternatives meant to convey a more generous notion of gender.

"Because I go to an all-women's college, a lot of people are like, 'If you don't identify as a woman, how did you get in?'" said sophomore Skylar Crownover, 19, who is president of Mouthing Off! and prefers to be mentioned as a singular they, but also answers to he. "I just tell them the application asks you to mark your sex and I did. It didn't ask me for my gender."

On high school and college campuses and in certain political and social media circles, the growing visibility of a small, but semantically committed cadre of young people who, like Crownover, self-identify as "gender*****" — neither male nor female but an androgynous hybrid or rejection of both — is challenging anew the limits of Western comprehension and the English language.

Though still in search of mainstream acceptance, students and staff members who describe themselves in terms such as agender, bigender, third gender or gender-fluid are requesting — and sometimes finding — linguistic recognition.

Inviting students to state their preferred gender pronouns, known as PGPs for short, and encouraging classmates to use unfamiliar ones such as "ze,'''sie," ''e," ''ou" and "ve" has become an accepted back-to-school practice for professors, dorm advisers, club sponsors, workshop leaders and health care providers at several schools.

The phenomenon gained notice in the San Francisco Bay area in early November after an 18-year-old student at a private high school in Berkeley suffered severe burns when a 16-year-old boy set fire to the student's skirt while the two were riding a public bus. The parents of the injured student, Sascha Fleischman, said their son is biologically male but identifies as agender and favors they as a pronoun.

At the University of Vermont, students who elect to change their names and/or pronouns on class rosters now can choose from she, he and ze, as well as the option of being referred to by only their names. Hampshire College in Massachusetts advertises its inclusiveness by listing the gender pronouns of its tour guides on the school's web site. And intake forms at the University of California, Berkeley's student health center include spaces for male, female or other.
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The nods to novel pronouns and nonconformity are an outgrowth of campaigns for gender-neutral bathrooms and housing that were aimed at making campuses more welcoming for transgender students moving from one side of the gender spectrum to the other. But as fewer young people choose to undergo sex reassignment surgery, such students are slowly being outnumbered by peers who refuse to be limited, said Genny Beemyn, director of the Stonewall Center at the University of Massachusetts, Amherst.

"Certainly we see students who are transitioning, particularly female to male, but the vast majority of students who identify under the trans umbrella identify in some way outside the binary, and that's really causing a shift on college campuses," said Beemyn, who studies gender identity in higher education and recently traded ze for they. "Having role models and examples allows people to say 'Yes, what I am feeling is legitimate.'"...

Tywysog Cymru
11-30-2013, 10:49 AM
From now on I will only be referred to as Chuck Norris.

libertarianMoney
11-30-2013, 11:34 AM
Change the question:
Were you born with a penis?

Actually that's sexist...

Better question:
Were you born with a vagina?

Problem is solved.

People are silly.

heavenlyboy34
11-30-2013, 12:27 PM
Change the question:
Were you born with a penis?

Actually that's sexist...

Better question:
Were you born with a vagina?

Problem is solved.

People are silly.
Pretty rare, but hermaphrodites could answer yes to both those questions. Problem not solved. :/ But yes, people are very silly.:toady:

Origanalist
11-30-2013, 12:39 PM
Pretty rare, but hermaphrodites could answer yes to both those questions. Problem not solved. :/ But yes, people are very silly.:toady:

Silly crossed over to just plain moronic some time ago.

acptulsa
11-30-2013, 12:40 PM
Is this prog agenda prevalent in Europe? If so, does that mean they're going to ban all but neuter word endings from the romance languages?

Muscogee and other Indian languages use the same pronouns for males and females. Does that mean Harvard (or, at least Stanford) will be abandoning English for Muscogee?

Tywysog Cymru
11-30-2013, 12:44 PM
Well, applying this trend to German or Spanish could be really difficult.

heavenlyboy34
11-30-2013, 12:48 PM
Is this prog agenda prevalent in Europe? If so, does that mean they're going to ban all but neuter word endings from the romance languages?

Muscogee and other Indian languages use the same pronouns for males and females. Does that mean Harvard (or, at least Stanford) will be abandoning English for Muscogee?
Not sure, but a good way to figure it out is to join European-based forums. I belong to a UK-based forum, so I get tastes of UK culture/popular thought hither and thither.

mad cow
11-30-2013, 01:15 PM
Avoid these potentially awkward social encounters;call 'em all Y'all.
As in "Y'all know where any normal people hang out around these parts"?

heavenlyboy34
11-30-2013, 01:19 PM
Avoid these potentially awkward social encounters;call 'em all Y'all.
As in "Y'all know where any normal people hang out around these parts"?
How to use y'all correctly:
http://memphis.about.com/od/midsouthliving/qt/yall.htm

Brian4Liberty
11-30-2013, 11:23 PM
Avoid these potentially awkward social encounters;call 'em all Y'all.


What do you mean by "you all" you racist?!




;)

heavenlyboy34
11-30-2013, 11:31 PM
Is this prog agenda prevalent in Europe? If so, does that mean they're going to ban all but neuter word endings from the romance languages?

Muscogee and other Indian languages use the same pronouns for males and females. Does that mean Harvard (or, at least Stanford) will be abandoning English for Muscogee?
Not just the Romance languages-all (AFAIK) the indo-European languages except modern English have masculine, feminine, and neuter declensions/verb conjugations.

jj-
12-01-2013, 11:17 AM
My eyes can't roll hard enough for this.