Matt Damon - disobedience against the state

[kpitcher]

Interesting clip on a speech - I think from howard zinn - given by Matt Damon. I don't necessarily agree with all the points but some of them are good.

http://overpassesforamerica.com/?p=274

Worth a watch

[FrankRep]

Matt Damon is a hard left-wing progressive so it wouldn't surprise me that he's quoting Howard Zinn, a Communist.




In an interview with the Guardian published Saturday, [Matt] Damon revealed that he had just moved to Los Angeles from New York, but that he didn't "have a choice" when it came to putting his four daughters into private schools. The multi-millionaire did say that it was "a major moral dilemma" and then made the bizarre excuse that the public schools aren't "progressive" enough.

SOURCE: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?423412-Public-School-Advocate-Matt-Damon-Enrolls-Kids-in-Private-School



Wikipedia: Howard Zinn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn#FBI_files)



Socialism

Zinn described himself as "something of an anarchist, something of a socialist. Maybe a democratic socialist."

FBI files:

Because of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, on July 30, 2010, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) released a file with 423 pages of information on Howard Zinn’s life and activities. During the height of McCarthyism in 1949, the FBI first opened a domestic security investigation on Zinn (FBI File # 100-360217), based on Zinn’s activities in what the agency considered to be communist front groups and informant reports that Zinn was an active member of the Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA).[ Zinn denied ever being a member and said that he had participated in the activities of various organizations which might be considered Communist fronts but that his participation was motivated by his belief that in this country people had the right to believe, think, and act according to their own ideals.

[Icymudpuppy]

I've never understood how someone like Matt Damon, intelligent enough to write the script for "Good Will Hunting" and the iconic NSA speech and be able to connect the dots between the direct harm to the common man from the government's foreign adventures and economic control can somehow think that total government control of everything is somehow a solution...

It boggles my mind the doublethink necessary to reconcile those points.

[FrankRep]

I've never understood how someone like Matt Damon, intelligent enough to write the script for "Good Will Hunting" and the iconic NSA speech and be able to connect the dots between the direct harm to the common man from the government's foreign adventures and economic control can someone think that total government control of everything is somehow a solution...

It boggles my mind the doublethink necessary to reconcile those points.


Matt Damon's mom, Nancy Carlsson-Paige, is a left-wing progressive and neighbor to the late Howard Zinn.

That could be the source.



Social Justice Works! The Aaronson Fund, supporting progressive education and social justice initiatives (http://www.socialjusticeworks.org/WHO_WE_ARE.html)

SJW! Executive Committee Members. 2008
- Nancy Carlsson-Paige



Nancy Carlsson-Paige Bio (http://www.americanswhotellthetruth.org/portraits/nancy-carlsson-paige)


Dr. Carlsson-Paige has written that Howard Zinn was the most significant teacher in her life. She moved next door to Zinn and his wife Roz when she was in her late 20's and beginning to formulate her political views. Zinn, whose ideas, political philosophy, and morality resonated with her, became Carlsson-Paige´s mentor. For more than three decades he would be a friend and guide as she committed her professional life to creative child development, social justice and peace.



At Howard Zinn’s Memorial Service (http://progressive.org/wx040710.html)

The Progressive
April 7, 2010

Matt Damon’s mother, Nancy Carlsson-Paige, longtime neighbor of the Zinns and author of “Taking Back Childhood,” spoke next. Howard Zinn taught us, she said, that “you can see all the pain and the injustice, and you can do everything to fight for freedom and justice, and you still make people laugh. You bring joy and justice into every moment.”

Matt Damon then rose to offer words of comfort, he said. He related a conversation his mom had with Howard a few months before he died. “I’m ready to go,” Zinn told her. “I have no fear. I’ve had a good life.” And Damon said that when Howard had the heart attack in the swimming pool in Santa Monica, the person who attended to him asked, “Do you need an ambulance?” And Howard said, “No, I’m OK,” and then, said Damon, “he closed his eyes.”

[alucard13mm]

Good Will Hunting and Jason Bourne...

Haha. How ironic indeed.

[Matt Collins]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ7icVvDK9I

[DamianTV]

I actually think his speech was very dead on. Until he walked off stage and there was Howard Zinn for President in the back.

Matt Damon is an Actor. His job is to deliver compelling speeches. He is just playing the part, regardless of how good the speech was.

To break the Chains of Obedience, one must become Disobedient.

[Ronin Truth]

I've never understood how someone like Matt Damon, intelligent enough to write the script for "Good Will Hunting" and the iconic NSA speech and be able to connect the dots between the direct harm to the common man from the government's foreign adventures and economic control can someone think that total government control of everything is somehow a solution...

It boggles my mind the doublethink necessary to reconcile those points.

FWIW, I believe it's called cognitive dissonance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance

[FrankRep]

I actually think his speech was very dead on. Until he walked off stage and there was Howard Zinn for President in the back.

Matt Damon is an Actor. His job is to deliver compelling speeches. He is just playing the part, regardless of how good the speech was.

To break the Chains of Obedience, one must become Disobedient.

The speech had some poison pills in it. Talking about distribution of wealth and a declaration of interdependence.

[IDefendThePlatform]

Interesting clip on a speech - I think from howard zinn - given by Matt Damon. I don't necessarily agree with all the points but some of them are good.

http://overpassesforamerica.com/?p=274

Worth a watch


What were the disobedience quotes? Could be useful for a common ground starting point that, yes, we agree, that just because government says to do something doesn't necessarily mean its a moral thing to do.

I haven't watched the clip yet, but more people questioning the legitimacy of government is definitely a good thing, even if his solutions are way off base.

[qh4dotcom]

Can someone explain this to me? It doesn't make sense for a guy like Damon to be advocating disobedience against the state....and 3 months ago giving $10,000+ to Corey Booker for Senate.

http://images.nictusa.com/cgi-bin/fecimg/?13020420017

[anaconda]

Obligatory:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUa5oHgYV2k

[DamianTV]

Anyone else starting to suspect that MSM is starting to persuade people to enact another Civil War? Matt Damon, TV shows like Revolution and Defiance, Fear Mongering, etc... Boy, that would really be profitable, for them...

[green73]

Matt Damon is a hard left-wing progressive so it wouldn't surprise me that he's quoting Howard Zinn, a Communist.




In an interview with the Guardian published Saturday, [Matt] Damon revealed that he had just moved to Los Angeles from New York, but that he didn't "have a choice" when it came to putting his four daughters into private schools. The multi-millionaire did say that it was "a major moral dilemma" and then made the bizarre excuse that the public schools aren't "progressive" enough.

SOURCE: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?423412-Public-School-Advocate-Matt-Damon-Enrolls-Kids-in-Private-School



Wikipedia: Howard Zinn (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Howard_Zinn#FBI_files)



Socialism

Zinn described himself as "something of an anarchist, something of a socialist. Maybe a democratic socialist."

FBI files:

Because of a Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, on July 30, 2010, the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) released a file with 423 pages of information on Howard Zinn’s life and activities. During the height of McCarthyism in 1949, the FBI first opened a domestic security investigation on Zinn (FBI File # 100-360217), based on Zinn’s activities in what the agency considered to be communist front groups and informant reports that Zinn was an active member of the Communist Party of the United States (CPUSA).[ Zinn denied ever being a member and said that he had participated in the activities of various organizations which might be considered Communist fronts but that his participation was motivated by his belief that in this country people had the right to believe, think, and act according to their own ideals.


Yup, just cover your ears, because nothing a lefty has ever said is worth a damn. :rolleyes:

[PaulConventionWV]

PUKE!!!

[Cleaner44]

One should never underestimate the damage that adults can do to children's minds.

[dillo]

At least matt damon had the balls to criticize Obama for the wars

[green73]

At least matt damon had the balls to criticize Obama for the wars

No no no no. Before you forget yourself, that's a lefty speaking. Just scuff and pretend it didn't happen. Only Ted Cruz types are worthy of praise.

[FrankRep]

Yup, just cover your ears, because nothing a lefty has ever said is worth a damn. :rolleyes:

Leftist solutions always involve more government, but maybe that's your thing, not mine.

[LibertyEagle]

Yup, just cover your ears, because nothing a lefty has ever said is worth a damn. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I agree, they don't.

[Bastiat's The Law]

Socialist anarchists are nothing new.

[green73]

Yeah, I agree, they don't.

Just keep that left-right paradigm going. You and the neocons are sure to take the "Republic" back.

[green73]

Leftist solutions always involve more government, but maybe that's your thing, not mine.

Man, you're smart.

[QuickZ06]

Leftist solutions always involve more government, but maybe that's your thing, not mine.

Same can be said for most republicans.......

[IDefendThePlatform]

Ok so I just had a chance to actually watch the speech and I definitely like it. Specifically,
1) It correctly diagnosis govt edicts, and the blind obeying of said edicts, as the problem

"You're saying civil disobedience is the problem. I'm saying civil obedience is the problem." - then immediately talks about how obvious it is to us today that the Nazis should have disobeyed, although clearly it wasn't obvious at the time or they would have.


Speeches like this by someone like Matt Damon (reading Howard Zinn) give me a small sliver of hope. There are such a small percentage of the population who honestly question the state's legitimacy but someone famous like this who is known as a big govt supporter doing it is an opportunity to reach a whole new audience and make them question too.

[Deborah K]

I've never understood how someone like Matt Damon, intelligent enough to write the script for "Good Will Hunting" and the iconic NSA speech and be able to connect the dots between the direct harm to the common man from the government's foreign adventures and economic control can somehow think that total government control of everything is somehow a solution...

It boggles my mind the doublethink necessary to reconcile those points.

Interestingly, his character in "Good Will Hunting" talks about Zinn.

The history revisionist (Zinn) is taught in colleges, btw. "A People's History of the United States" is required reading in college history classes.

[Acala]

I've never understood how someone like Matt Damon, intelligent enough to write the script for "Good Will Hunting" and the iconic NSA speech and be able to connect the dots between the direct harm to the common man from the government's foreign adventures and economic control can somehow think that total government control of everything is somehow a solution...

It boggles my mind the doublethink necessary to reconcile those points.

It seems that when they think about government power they always imagine themselves (or someone like them) at the controls and so imagine government to be a tool for implementing their own values. Of course this flies in the face of reality, but it is a persistent error in thinking with many people.