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jct74
11-25-2013, 12:07 PM
Confessions of a Right-Wing Shock Jock
I'm not a racist; I just played one on the radio.

By JACK HUNTER
November 25, 2013

In July, the neoconservative website Washington Free Beacon published an article with the headline “Rebel Yell: Rand Paul aide has history of neo-Confederate sympathies, inflammatory statements.” The subject was a peculiar one—a staffer for Sen. Paul (R-Ky.) who had worked as a radio shock jock with the nickname “Southern Avenger” while wearing a Confederate-flag wrestling mask.

The Southern Avenger had said some pretty atrocious things. He toasted John Wilkes Booth’s birthday each year and believed that Lincoln “would have had a romantic relationship with Adolf Hitler if the two met.” He worried about “racial double standards for white people” and that “a non-white majority America would simply cease to be America.”

That Rand Paul aide was me. I had written and said all of these things. They no longer reflected my beliefs by the time the Beacon article came out—and hadn’t for a long time. Some I had completely forgotten, like the John Wilkes Booth toast. The reporter had retrieved that one from an old long-defunct website.

“He expressed surprise when read his remarks about race, saying, ‘Hearing you even read that to me, because I just don’t speak like that, sort of bothers me,’” the reporter wrote. “He said his views had changed dramatically.”

They had changed. But it didn’t matter. There was no excuse for my comments. In fact, the Jack Hunter of 2013 would have condemned the Southern Avenger of 2003 for making them.

Two weeks after the story broke, I resigned.

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read more:
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2013/11/confessions-of-right-wing-shock-jock-jack-hunter-100261.html

Christian Liberty
11-25-2013, 12:11 PM
believed that Lincoln “would have had a romantic relationship with Adolf Hitler if the two met.”

LOL! I wouldn't quite compare Lincoln to Hitler directly, but he was pretty awful all the same.

Anti Federalist
11-25-2013, 12:17 PM
Lame.

Own what you said or STFU.

Saccharin epistles of "how I was wrong" reek of self serving, mealy mouthed, prevaricating.

Christian Liberty
11-25-2013, 12:18 PM
I don't understand his point about white-majority, or why that would matter. Who cares in the slightest what color someone is? That said, his comments about Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth were pretty close to right.

Red Green
11-25-2013, 12:31 PM
I don't understand his point about white-majority, or why that would matter. Who cares in the slightest what color someone is? That said, his comments about Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth were pretty close to right.

I agree. I had a conversation at a bar with a friend and his wife that turned to political philosophy. When I mentioned that I would put Lincoln on the bottom 10 of presidents, they were both aghast, even my friend who knows me well. He was like "yeah, you can't just go around saying that stuff". I guess it's important to uphold American myths lest we find ourselves enlightened or something. :rolleyes:

jllundqu
11-25-2013, 12:34 PM
Lame.

Own what you said or STFU.

Saccharin epistles of "how I was wrong" reek of self serving, mealy mouthed, prevaricating.

+rep I had to look up: epistles, mealy, and prevaricating... just to understand your post. I consider myself well-educated, but I tip my hat to your vocabulary, sir!

Antischism
11-25-2013, 12:35 PM
Good on him for owning up to his bullshit.

CPUd
11-25-2013, 12:36 PM
I agree. I had a conversation at a bar with a friend and his wife that turned to political philosophy. When I mentioned that I would put Lincoln on the bottom 10 of presidents, they were both aghast, even my friend who knows me well. He was like "yeah, you can't just go around saying that stuff". I guess it's important to uphold American myths lest we find ourselves enlightened or something. :rolleyes:

You could mess with them by freaking out next time someone tries to hand you a $5 or give you change in pennies.

helmuth_hubener
11-25-2013, 12:55 PM
Lame.

Own what you said or STFU.

Saccharin epistles of "how I was wrong" reek of self serving, mealy mouthed, prevaricating.
It was a fine article. Sometimes a man changes his mind. Sometimes he has done something he regrets. In such a case, to say "I was wrong" is a perfectly manly, honest, and reasonable thing to say.

Anti Federalist
11-25-2013, 01:01 PM
It was a fine article. Sometimes a man changes his mind. Sometimes he has done something he regrets. In such a case, to say "I was wrong" is a perfectly manly, honest, and reasonable thing to say.

In this tone and context, I disagree.

Christian Liberty
11-25-2013, 01:04 PM
I agree. I had a conversation at a bar with a friend and his wife that turned to political philosophy. When I mentioned that I would put Lincoln on the bottom 10 of presidents, they were both aghast, even my friend who knows me well. He was like "yeah, you can't just go around saying that stuff". I guess it's important to uphold American myths lest we find ourselves enlightened or something. :rolleyes:

I guess so.

I'm not saying I actually condone with John Wilkes Booth did, but I don't blame him either. Lincoln was one of the most tyrannical Presidents in US History, and he was very good at it too. The one saving grace we have right now is Obama's incompetence. Can you imagine someone as chillingly efficient as "Honest Abe" in power with 21st century tech?


It was a fine article. Sometimes a man changes his mind. Sometimes he has done something he regrets. In such a case, to say "I was wrong" is a perfectly manly, honest, and reasonable thing to say.

That's perfectly fine if he really did change his mind. I'm just not convinced he did it because he truly changed his mind, or if he's just covering Rand Paul. If the latter, its up to him but IMO its not his job.

helmuth_hubener
11-25-2013, 01:05 PM
In this tone and context, I disagree.I understand what you're saying, but I just don't happen to read the same mealy-mouthed tone that you're finding. It's a subjective thing.

Anti Federalist
11-25-2013, 01:12 PM
I understand what you're saying, but I just don't happen to read the same mealy-mouthed tone that you're finding. It's a subjective thing.

Yes, it is.

kahless
11-25-2013, 01:55 PM
I don't understand his point about white-majority, or why that would matter. Who cares in the slightest what color someone is? That said, his comments about Lincoln and John Wilkes Booth were pretty close to right.

I believe we are all equally God's children but this is going to sound politically incorrect since we are not supposed to talk about it but here are the facts.

When over 90% of African Americans and over 60% of Hispanics consistently vote for Socialist candidates and politicians based on color or ethnicity, it is a problem.

You could easily run a minority Communist on the Democrat ticket in a minority district and that person would win. Think about the effects it will have on this country when whites are in the minority if this trend continues.

Also, minority on White racism and discrimination against whites is getting worse. This does not bode well for whites should they become a minority. Obama really had a chance to reverse the trend but rather poured gasoline on the fire. Shame on him and Oprah to while I am at it.

jmdrake
11-25-2013, 02:59 PM
The Southern Avenger throws himself under the bus? If anyone doubted whether Rand Paul was serious about running for president, this should clear that up.

Keith and stuff
11-25-2013, 03:04 PM
LOL! I wouldn't quite compare Lincoln to Hitler directly, but he was pretty awful all the same.

Which killed a higher percentage of the population?

Keith and stuff
11-25-2013, 03:08 PM
When over 90% of African Americans and over 60% of Hispanics consistently vote for Socialist candidates and politicians based on color or ethnicity, it is a problem.
Many, many hispanics vote for conservative candidates. Conservative candidates have won in Mexico, Chile, New Mexico, Arizona, Costa Rica, Utah, Puerto Rico and many other areas with lots of hispanics. I agree that hispanics usually vote for socialists (though, not Socialist Party candidates, as you said) but many don't. Many certainly don't consistently. And we are talking about hundreds of millions of people.

jmdrake
11-25-2013, 03:11 PM
Which killed a higher percentage of the population?

Which killed a higher percentage of the civilian population? Hitler by far. And had the south seceded when Andrew Jackson was president he would have made Lincoln look like Mary Poppins. The confederates Jackson didn't hang as traitors would have been put on a new "trail of tears". Just sayin'.

Feeding the Abscess
11-25-2013, 03:12 PM
I believe we are all equally God's children but this is going to sound politically incorrect since we are not supposed to talk about it but here are the facts.

When over 90% of African Americans and over 60% of Hispanics consistently vote for Socialist candidates and politicians based on color or ethnicity, it is a problem.

You could easily run a minority Communist on the Democrat ticket in a minority district and that person would win. Think about the effects it will have on this country when whites are in the minority if this trend continues.

Also, minority on White racism and discrimination against whites is getting worse. This does not bode well for whites should they become a minority. Obama really had a chance to reverse the trend but rather poured gasoline on the fire. Shame on him and Oprah to while I am at it.

Over 90% of Americans, regardless of color, vote for socialists. Over half of this forum, a supposed bastion of liberty, is socialist.

RonPaulMall
11-25-2013, 03:16 PM
I like old Southern Avenger better.

Keith and stuff
11-25-2013, 03:21 PM
Which killed a higher percentage of the civilian population? Hitler by far. And had the south seceded when Andrew Jackson was president he would have made Lincoln look like Mary Poppins. The confederates Jackson didn't hang as traitors would have been put on a new "trail of tears". Just sayin'.
Are you talking about the Andrew Jackson born in South Carolina or North Carolina and that live most of his life in TN?

Aratus
11-25-2013, 04:30 PM
The Southern Avenger throws himself under the bus? If anyone doubted whether Rand Paul was serious about running for president, this should clear that up.

he did, indeedy he did! my day would be made if Howard Stern ate a dish of humble pie
and promised NEVER to say anything smutty in public again! Rush Limbaugh has an EGO
so i have no hopes for an apology out of him, sometimes hubris is incurable and singular.

Aratus
11-25-2013, 04:33 PM
Are you talking about the Andrew Jackson born in South Carolina or North Carolina and that live most of his life in TN?

andrew jackson... in 1833 he definately wanted to hang all of john c. calhoun's close friends in S.C!!!

andrew jackson was born on the border between N.C + S.C and did live much of his life in Tennessee!

andrew johnson ...was born in N.C in 1808 and likewise lived a goodly portion of his adult life in TENNESSEE!

Matt Collins
11-25-2013, 04:58 PM
Own what you said or STFU.A person isn't allowed to mature in their views? :confused: :rolleyes:

jmdrake
11-25-2013, 05:03 PM
Are you talking about the Andrew Jackson born in South Carolina or North Carolina and that live most of his life in TN?

Yep. The same Andrew Jackson. He threatened to hang sessionists as traitors. Lincoln was born in Kentucky so what's your point? Some of Sherman's best shock troops were from Alabama.

phill4paul
11-25-2013, 05:03 PM
The Southern Avenger throws himself under the bus? If anyone doubted whether Rand Paul was serious about running for president, this should clear that up.

The Southern Avenger is worried about his own political future going forward. That is all.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1OXAi7rNMg

Cutlerzzz
11-25-2013, 05:10 PM
I like old Southern Avenger better.

Me too.

NorthCarolinaLiberty
11-25-2013, 05:15 PM
Act II. Second acts mean that most people don't understand the entertainment industry.

Tywysog Cymru
11-25-2013, 06:39 PM
I believe we are all equally God's children but this is going to sound politically incorrect since we are not supposed to talk about it but here are the facts.

When over 90% of African Americans and over 60% of Hispanics consistently vote for Socialist candidates and politicians based on color or ethnicity, it is a problem.

You could easily run a minority Communist on the Democrat ticket in a minority district and that person would win. Think about the effects it will have on this country when whites are in the minority if this trend continues.

Also, minority on White racism and discrimination against whites is getting worse. This does not bode well for whites should they become a minority. Obama really had a chance to reverse the trend but rather poured gasoline on the fire. Shame on him and Oprah to while I am at it.

Once minorities become a larger portion of the population, we'll see more diversity in opinion among them I think.

eduardo89
11-25-2013, 07:06 PM
Once minorities become a larger portion of the population, we'll see more diversity in opinion among them I think.

LOL!

Christian Liberty
11-25-2013, 07:55 PM
I believe we are all equally God's children


You are wrong. The Bible says that non-Christians are Satan's children.



but this is going to sound politically incorrect since we are not supposed to talk about it but here are the facts.

When over 90% of African Americans and over 60% of Hispanics consistently vote for Socialist candidates and politicians based on color or ethnicity, it is a problem.

You could easily run a minority Communist on the Democrat ticket in a minority district and that person would win. Think about the effects it will have on this country when whites are in the minority if this trend continues.

Also, minority on White racism and discrimination against whites is getting worse. This does not bode well for whites should they become a minority. Obama really had a chance to reverse the trend but rather poured gasoline on the fire. Shame on him and Oprah to while I am at it.

Hmmm... so, if these things are true, why do you think it is true?

Which killed a higher percentage of the population?

Bah. "Percentages". Who cares? I only care about hard numbers.


Which killed a higher percentage of the civilian population? Hitler by far. And had the south seceded when Andrew Jackson was president he would have made Lincoln look like Mary Poppins. The confederates Jackson didn't hang as traitors would have been put on a new "trail of tears". Just sayin'.

I presume by saying this you are only putting things into perspective, not defending Lincoln. Is this correct?


Over 90% of Americans, regardless of color, vote for socialists. Over half of this forum, a supposed bastion of liberty, is socialist.

Over half this forum? I'm going to need some proof of that.


LOL!

I don't know much about this. What's your response? Just curious.

eduardo89
11-25-2013, 07:58 PM
You are wrong. The Bible says that non-Christians are Satan's children.

All human beings are created in the image and likeness of God.

kahless
11-25-2013, 08:23 PM
You are wrong. The Bible says that non-Christians are Satan's children.


However you interpret it is irrelevant since the context in which I said it relates to Latinos and blacks in this country which the overwhelming majority of them are Christian.

acptulsa
11-25-2013, 08:45 PM
You are wrong. The Bible says that non-Christians are Satan's children.



Hmmm... so, if these things are true, why do you think it is true?


Bah. "Percentages". Who cares? I only care about hard numbers.



I presume by saying this you are only putting things into perspective, not defending Lincoln. Is this correct?



Over half this forum? I'm going to need some proof of that.



I don't know much about this. What's your response? Just curious.

So, is religious intolerance, argumentativeness, the insanely Christian point of view that it's okay to kill everyone in the room if it isn't a very big room, and a general insistence on treating everyone as you surely don't want to be treated yourself all you have to contribute to this discussion?

Because if you're trying to get yourself a job as a right wing shock jock, you should probably go somewhere that has people who are impressed by right wing shock jocks.

Christian Liberty
11-25-2013, 09:11 PM
the insanely Christian point of view that it's okay to kill everyone in the room if it isn't a very big room,

Wait, you've been here since 2008, and you're stupid enough to read that into my post? Wow. I really hope you're either tired or drunk. Or better yet, on some kind of hard, illegal drugs. Because if you're posting this while completely sober and awake... just wow...

Person A kills everyone in a room with 5 people in it. Person B is in a room with 10,000 people and only kills 9,998 of them. The "percentages" logic would say Person A's crime was actually worse. What I said in no way implies that Person A's crme was in any way acceptable, only that it is not in any way "worse" than Person B's crime.

Duh.

Christian Liberty
11-25-2013, 09:11 PM
That said, I am "Religiously intolerant." now, are you "Mr. Tolerant" going to tolerate my intolerance, or are you a hypocrite?

cajuncocoa
11-25-2013, 09:25 PM
Am I the only one who finds the following two sentences a little strange?

Southern Avenger had said some pretty atrocious things. He toasted John Wilkes Booth’s birthday each year and believed that Lincoln “would have had a romantic relationship with Adolf Hitler if the two met.” He worried about “racial double standards for white people” and that “a non-white majority America would simply cease to be America.”

That Rand Paul aide was me. I had written and said all of these things. They no longer reflected my beliefs by the time the Beacon article came out—and hadn’t for a long time. Some I had completely forgotten, like the John Wilkes Booth toast. The reporter had retrieved that one from an old long-defunct website.

I dunno....I don't think you'd "completely" forget about something you did "each year" but maybe his memory is just worse than mine (and that's sad) :rolleyes:

fr33
11-25-2013, 10:50 PM
I like old Southern Avenger better.

Me too.

Tinnuhana
11-26-2013, 02:36 AM
I think the whole revelation of racism being an "ugly form of collectivism" opened a lot of eyes. And I should be as willing to accept them into the liberty fold, current warts and all, as much as I'd accept a "blue republican" just realizing why socialism doesn't work.

acptulsa
11-26-2013, 07:23 AM
That said, I am "Religiously intolerant." now, are you "Mr. Tolerant" going to tolerate my intolerance, or are you a hypocrite?

I'm going to call your false choice for the bullshit it is.

I have no right to tell the world how to relate to God, and the Bible tells me that it isn't my place to do so. And why should it be? God knows a hell of a lot more than I do, and is a hell of a lot more capable.

Refusing to tolerate the intolerant is not the same as trying to block every road to a relationship with God that is not my own. You seem to think having religious freedom is the same thing as having the right to be an asshole. I would suggest you ask Jesus for a second opinion. He actually had quite a bit to say about the subject. And told Pharisees like you all about it every time they were foolish enough to ask.

VoluntaryAmerican
11-26-2013, 09:34 AM
You are wrong. The Bible says that non-Christians are Satan's children.

If that's what your god thinks, he is a fool.

angelatc
11-26-2013, 10:41 AM
It may be that Jack is having a hard time finding a new job now.

Woods
11-26-2013, 05:10 PM
LOL! I wouldn't quite compare Lincoln to Hitler directly, but he was pretty awful all the same.If one wanted to make a sound comparison, Jefferson Davis and Hitler both headed governments executing master-race principles.

JohnM
11-27-2013, 08:36 AM
Am I the only one who finds the following two sentences a little strange?


I dunno....I don't think you'd "completely" forget about something you did "each year" but maybe his memory is just worse than mine (and that's sad) :rolleyes:

Yeah, I thought that was a little strange.

But other than that, I thought it was a pretty good article. I'm not sure why some people don't like what he wrote.