Roger Daltry now understands Supply and Demand

[Brian4Liberty]

Although he still probably does not understand how the Welfare State and minimum wage also contributes to the problem of unemployment...



Roger Daltrey, the frontman of The Who, has said he will ‘never, ever’ forgive Labour for their policies on immigration.

The singer accused the Labour Party of ‘destroying the jobs of my mates’ by not controlling mass immigration when in power.

Mr Daltrey, 69, said the reason he no longer supports the Labour Party is because of ‘stupid thinking on Europe’ that allowed large numbers of EU nationals to work in England.

The musician said blame does not lie with immigrants, but with the politicians who mismanaged them.

‘I’ve got nothing against the Poles at all, but that was a political mistake and it made me very angry.

'And the people who get it in the neck are the immigrants, and it’s not their fault,’ he told the Sunday Times magazine.

He said the influx of thousands of immigrant workers during Labour’s 13-year reign left the indigenous working-classes unemployed.

‘I will never, ever forgive the Labour party for allowing this mass immigration with no demands put on what people should be paid when they come to this country.

‘I will never forgive them for destroying the jobs of my mates, because they allowed their jobs to be undercut with stupid thinking on Europe, letting them all in, so they can live 10 to a room, working for Polish wages.’
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Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509087/Who-frontman-Roger-Daltrey-blames-Labour-immigration-policy-left-working-class-unemployed.html

[Brian4Liberty]

Just like with the Obamacare fiasco, the Left finally starts to admit a mistake.


Roger Daltrey, frontman for The Who, stepped up to slam Britain’s recent massive increases in legal immigration, saying they hurt domestic workers in the European nation, the Telegraph reports by way of the Sunday Times magazine.
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According to a story a few days ago from the Telegraph, the British Labour Party’s former Home Secretary, Jack Straw, admitted his party’s open borders approach to allowing Eastern European immigrants to freely flow into Britain was a “spectacular mistake.” In 2004, his party allowed migrant workers from Poland and Hungary to freely immigrate to Britain--a policy Straw described this week as “well-intentioned” even though, as he said, “we messed up.”

Daltrey’s and Straw’s comments come as the United States Congress and President Barack Obama’s administration head into the next stages of an ongoing immigration policy debate. The Senate-passed “Gang of Eight” bill would legalize the status and eventually grant citizenship to the millions of illegal aliens inside America’s borders right now, without any guarantee of future border security measures. The Senate bill would also bring in upwards of 40 million new legal immigrants in the next 20 years.
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As the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) noted, the Senate bill or a plan like it would drive unemployment up and wages down--all because it would game the labor market’s laws of supply and demand by massively increasing the supply in a way that benefits employers and labor unions. They would benefit from workers being in a position to accept substandard jobs and pay because of the threat of losing their jobs.

What Daltrey and Straw have seen happen in Britain could occur in the U.S. if a plan like the Senate’s--or one backed by groups like the Chamber of Commerce--were to pass into law.
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More:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Hollywood/2013/11/19/Rock-star-Amnesty-massive-increase-in-immigration-hurts-jobs-for-domestic-workers

[Zippyjuan]

Let's use the government to protect domestic workers from competition perhaps by banning all immigration? Maybe ban lower priced imported goods as well. That will protect jobs.

In truely free markets, both capital and labor must be free to move.

[Brian4Liberty]

Let's use the government to protect domestic workers from competition perhaps by banning all immigration? Maybe ban lower priced imported goods as well. That will protect jobs.

In truely free markets, both capital and labor must be free to move.

Because what we have is such a truly free market. Don't you have some government statistics that prove that amnesty and more immigration will turn the US into a paradise on Earth?

[Zippyjuan]

Because immigration is such a major problem?

http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/04/23/net-migration-from-mexico-falls-to-zero-and-perhaps-less/


April 23, 2012

Net Migration from Mexico Falls to Zero—and Perhaps Less

The largest wave of immigration in history from a single country to the United States has come to a standstill. After four decades that brought 12 million current immigrants—most of whom came illegally—the net migration flow from Mexico to the United States has stopped and may have reversed, according to a new analysis of government data from both countries by the Pew Hispanic Center, a project of the Pew Research Center.

The standstill appears to be the result of many factors, including the weakened U.S. job and housing construction markets, heightened border enforcement, a rise in deportations, the growing dangers associated with illegal border crossings, the long-term decline in Mexico’s birth rates and broader economic conditions in Mexico.


http://www.pewhispanic.org/2013/09/23/population-decline-of-unauthorized-immigrants-stalls-may-have-reversed/

From September 23, 2013:


The estimated number of unauthorized immigrants peaked at 12.2 million in 2007 and fell to 11.3 million in 2009, breaking a rising trend that had held for decades. Although there are indications the number of unauthorized immigrants may be rising, the 2012 population estimate is the midpoint of a wide range of possible values and in a statistical sense is no different from the 2009 estimate.

Just like after the Reagan amnesty in 1986? Was the economy destroyed? Jobs lost? In 1986, unemployment was 7.0%- about what it is today. By 1989, it was down to 5.3%. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/business/us-unemployment-rate-history/ (chart is flash so I can't copy it - see link). A brief recession around 1990 caused it to rise again but when that ended unemployment continued to fall- hitting 4% by 2000.

[William R]

Nonsense. Within the United States people are free to move. But outside the United States goods and services crossing our borders expire. They get used up. The free movement of people people across our borders means we won't be a country. Just a flop house. That's not a free market. It's a fantasy world.

[Brian4Liberty]

Because immigration is such a major problem?


Obama, Reid, Pelosi, Graham, Gutiérrez, Zuckerberg, the US Chamber of Commerce and the Unions say it is.

You are correct, Romney's infamous "self-deportation" is taking place right now due to the Great Recession. That's a real market force. But Romney is a racist, so that doesn't count.

[Zippyjuan]

We also more than doubled what we spend on borders- more fences, more security, more guards. And for several years under Obama forced deportations were also at record levels.